Date Projection by Intercytex

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michael barry said:
Jeff,
An FDA trial has three, I dont know about England though. I imagine it would be the same. Personally man, I just think a guy ought to practice prevention and wait by the way. Who knows this stuff may be availbale in five years, or thirty five years. A man getting a hair transplant now thinking "cloning's gonna come out soon anyway, and I can just fill in with it" is taking a risk.

Dr. Costarialis, who used to research cloning, and grew hair on 4 out of 23 trialists, states on his website that he believes "somebody, somewhere" will have successfully completed a process within five or ten years. He's no longer researching cloning, but other skin ailments, so thats proboably his honest assesment.

I wish I could say for sure when it'be available. Washenik says 2009, but he's under tremendous pressure from Anderans, and Anderans is under pressure from Intercycex, they are both from under pressure from Curis, who is investigating a gene therapy by which good hair genes are shot into your scalp and overake your bad hair genes, and make all those tiny peach fuzz hairs regrow to maturity.

"the wait is proboably going to be ridiculous".......it only take about three weeks to culture the cells. Extracting approximately thirty hairs from the back of your head FUE style wouldnt take a Doctor an hour, even after anaesthesia......go back in three weeks and an assistant uses a syringe to re-inject them. In six months......hair. In one year, HAIR HAIR HAIR. The clinics day schedules will proboably get pretty full, but I cant imagine you wouldnt be able to get an appointment in a coupla months tops, could you?

all i can say is i hope your right man..
 

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Thanks for the info michael barry, I can't wait for this to come out.

The only thing is, will it work on me? It seems two out of the seven in the first trial didn't get hair. That's what I'm worried about if it's going to work or not.
 

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DaSand said:
Thanks for the info michael barry, I can't wait for this to come out.

The only thing is, will it work on me? It seems two out of the seven in the first trial didn't get hair. That's what I'm worried about if it's going to work or not.


28% chance is better than 0

i'm sure they're still working on the success rate.
 

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jeffsss said:
28% chance is better than 0

i'm sure they're still working on the success rate.

Wrong way round mate. Thats actually an 82% success rate. Which I'm sure will increase.
 

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Lopfraze said:
jeffsss said:
28% chance is better than 0

i'm sure they're still working on the success rate.

Wrong way round mate. Thats actually an 82% success rate. Which I'm sure will increase.

wow, your right.. wha tthe hell was i thinking... good catch.
 

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jeffsss said:
Lopfraze said:
jeffsss said:
28% chance is better than 0

i'm sure they're still working on the success rate.

Wrong way round mate. Thats actually an 82% success rate. Which I'm sure will increase.

wow, your right.. wha tthe hell was i thinking... good catch.

That's still good news to my ears...
 

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michael barry said:
Jeff,
An FDA trial has three, I dont know about England though. I imagine it would be the same. Personally man, I just think a guy ought to practice prevention and wait by the way. Who knows this stuff may be availbale in five years, or thirty five years. A man getting a hair transplant now thinking "cloning's gonna come out soon anyway, and I can just fill in with it" is taking a risk.

Dr. Costarialis, who used to research cloning, and grew hair on 4 out of 23 trialists, states on his website that he believes "somebody, somewhere" will have successfully completed a process within five or ten years. He's no longer researching cloning, but other skin ailments, so thats proboably his honest assesment.

I wish I could say for sure when it'be available. Washenik says 2009, but he's under tremendous pressure from Anderans, and Anderans is under pressure from Intercycex, they are both from under pressure from Curis, who is investigating a gene therapy by which good hair genes are shot into your scalp and overake your bad hair genes, and make all those tiny peach fuzz hairs regrow to maturity.

"the wait is proboably going to be ridiculous".......it only take about three weeks to culture the cells. Extracting approximately thirty hairs from the back of your head FUE style wouldnt take a Doctor an hour, even after anaesthesia......go back in three weeks and an assistant uses a syringe to re-inject them. In six months......hair. In one year, HAIR HAIR HAIR. The clinics day schedules will proboably get pretty full, but I cant imagine you wouldnt be able to get an appointment in a coupla months tops, could you?

no I dont think it would take more than a cuople months to get an appointment.

I really hope this is really going to happen. I see from google searches taht people have thought that HM was going to come out in the 90's too.

so i'm clinging on to hope that it's not true.. but.. who knows!?! intercyrex doesnt update their website at all.
 

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jeffsss, I'm in the same boat you are. I'm eagerly waiting for HM from Intercytex to come out soon. But you need to stop obsessing on it and get on with life.

I'm going to pick something I like in college and finish it while saving up for the HM. I'm going out more and enjoying life. I may notice thin parts on my scalp, but I don't care because sooner or later, I won't have to worry about it.

Maybe it will come out sooner than expected maybe not. Why not get ready for it? I'm starting to save up for this procedure like I mentioned before.

Enjoy the present now jeffsss!
 

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DaSand said:
jeffsss, I'm in the same boat you are. I'm eagerly waiting for HM from Intercytex to come out soon. But you need to stop obsessing on it and get on with life.

I'm going to pick something I like in college and finish it while saving up for the HM. I'm going out more and enjoying life. I may notice thin parts on my scalp, but I don't care because sooner or later, I won't have to worry about it.

Maybe it will come out sooner than expected maybe not. Why not get ready for it? I'm starting to save up for this procedure like I mentioned before.

Enjoy the present now jeffsss!

DaSand...
I already have the money set aside..
That money could be for Retirement... a Corvette... ETC.. but i'm not using it.. i just hope it's not going to cost TOO much!?

i'm thinkinking under 20k and people will have to go to mexico or europe..
 

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Is this all still theory, or have they actually grown new hair on someone?
 

michael barry

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Biff
Yes they have grown hair. But it was in only one case pretty good hair.....its been smaller than normal, wavy, direction has been an issure. Sort of like cow licks and clumpiness all over the head. Its complex science. Remeber, the new dermal papilla cells will be responsible for also growing sebaceous glands, arrector pilli muscles, outer dermal sheath's etc. Using bio-degradeable tissue scaffolds to ensure proper direction (or at least upwards direction) is also an issue. Complex scientific processes are involved here.

But Intercyclex, Anderans, and Coen Gho REALLY are working on it. I imagine other high tech biotech firms around the world are looking at it to. Can you imagine the profits? About 40-50% of men eventually lose some hair. About 30-40% of men lose some hair while relatively young and 100% of those (secretely at least) dont like it. Think these guys would spring for a few thousand bucks for a new full head of hair over just getting a regular ride instead of that mega-SUV or top of the line sports car next time out? Think they'd get a second job for a summer or two to pay for it? I think they would Biff, and so do these companies. The profits would be enormous.
 

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The technique sounds similar to something I remember seeing on TV quite a few years back. Scientists grew a tooth on a rat by injecting growth cells of some sort into its gum. I've often wondered why something similar couldn't be done to grow hair.
 

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biff said:
The technique sounds similar to something I remember seeing on TV quite a few years back. Scientists grew a tooth on a rat by injecting growth cells of some sort into its gum. I've often wondered why something similar couldn't be done to grow hair.

i think they figured it out.. now they have to master it.. then get it approved by the FDA..

and so the wait continues..
 

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jeffsss said:
biff said:
The technique sounds similar to something I remember seeing on TV quite a few years back. Scientists grew a tooth on a rat by injecting growth cells of some sort into its gum. I've often wondered why something similar couldn't be done to grow hair.

i think they figured it out.. now they have to master it.. then get it approved by the FDA..

and so the wait continues..

Why wait for the FDA to approve it when you can save up for some plane tickets to Britain to get it done there? Maybe Canada might have it. That's what I'm doing.
 

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DaSand said:
jeffsss said:
biff said:
The technique sounds similar to something I remember seeing on TV quite a few years back. Scientists grew a tooth on a rat by injecting growth cells of some sort into its gum. I've often wondered why something similar couldn't be done to grow hair.

i think they figured it out.. now they have to master it.. then get it approved by the FDA..

and so the wait continues..

Why wait for the FDA to approve it when you can save up for some plane tickets to Britain to get it done there? Maybe Canada might have it. That's what I'm doing.

well ya could i guess.
but i'd like to see how the first round of patients do before i buy my plane ticket.
 

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It wouldn't hurt to wait jeffsss it's not a bad idea thanks for that idea! This way, I might not take it if the cells become cancerous (in case they do).

The only thing I'm concerned is will I have enough hair in the back if I go to an Norwood 6 or worse. I might keep the same hair and have the thinning. I've noticed both of my grandfathers and my father were very thin on in front by 32 years of age.

But, until it comes out should it ever, I'm saving up. If I get the choice between a new car or getting my hair back, I'll take door number # 2. I still have school to finish like I said before and getting back in shape.
 

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this all sounds like good news, but i would wait a couple of years after it came out to try it.
just think of all those guys who rushed to be the first, to get hair transplants
i can imagine you might grow blond hair when you have dark hair, curly when you have straght
so i would wait and see if all the problems are ironed out first before jumping in
 

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Your comment about waiting in general isn't a bad idea. But since they are injecting your own cells, I don't see how the hairs that sprout would be different from the hairs from which those cells were extracted. That's the beauty of the idea.

Still, something could happen with the first procedures before they are perfected. I can't think of what, though. They are probably going to take their time with the clinical trials and do it right, and be very watchful for any issues. There is too much at stake if things go wrong.

I don't know much about hair transplants, but I assume that one of the reasons they were botched in the beginning was because of the lack of technology, and experience, etc. But with this technology, I don't think they can botch things up, if they are injecting the cells. But who knows, anything is possible.
 

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kiwi1973 said:
this all sounds like good news, but i would wait a couple of years after it came out to try it.
just think of all those guys who rushed to be the first, to get hair transplants
i can imagine you might grow blond hair when you have dark hair, curly when you have straght
so i would wait and see if all the problems are ironed out first before jumping in


you're a little off, this is your own hair, so there is no way it would grow in another color like blonde. Most likely it will take on the same characteristics of the hair in the back of your head, where it was harvested from.

update on release of HM: their emails are now saying phase II will start June/July this year.
 

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Jon_e said:
It would be better and less obvious/embarassing, to just gradually replace hair that is lost, instead of miraculously going from a NW7 to a Norwood 1 in 6 months.

If this worked, I wouldn't give a rat's a#% about going from a NW7 to a NW1... I would strut around like John Travolta :)

funny thing is john travolta is balding now and wears a wig
 
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