Depression And Lonely

[Afro_Vacancy]

There was this religious girl in my junior college. She was very religious. She wanted to be a biochemist, but she didn't believe in evolution.

Anyway, one time in philosophy class she said the reason she behaves nicely and politely with other people is that she wants to go to heaven.

 

[buckthorn]

The saving blood of Jesus has liberated many from deep depression, metal disorders, addictions etc for centuries. While you h.I think you are an "intellect" - and I use that term very loosely, who know no better than to live by your feeble senses. I and billions of others have found a better way through faith and I'm sharing that with a man who's lost his way and needs to discover saving grace.

Miracles happen everyday in the world, thanks be to God, the stories of John and Gabriel are nothing short of this:

http://olrl.org/stories/lourdes.shtml

Miracles happen for those that are lucky. I am yet to here a person of strict religion answer the question of child rape and trafficking. There are simply atrocities too horrendous on this earth for there to exist any God. If there was a God, he would never let an innocent child be born, suffer with intestines full of parasites and die. It makes absolutely no sense. You ask a religious person and they mumble the usual vague bullsh*t, "it's all part of God's plan". If there is a God, he is a sick, sick bastard. Fact.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

The advantages of religion are that it can provide a community of people to interact with, what some people call "the church", which helps in a modern world where most everyone has few friends. If you're good at picking and choosing intelligently you can also end up with a healthier lifestyle, for example if you're jewish and you shut off the cell phone for 25 hours every week once a week, you'll be better off and more sane. Fasting six days a year as Jews do is probably good for you.

But in general, I hold a lot of rabbis, priests, imams, etc and a lot of their sheepish followers in low regard.

 

[Rudiger]

There was this religious girl in my junior college. She was very religious. She wanted to be a biochemist, but she didn't believe in evolution.

Anyway, one time in philosophy class she said the reason she behaves nicely and politely with other people is that she wants to go to heaven.

This is to generalise of course, but there's a scary driven way to Christian people that is sociopathic and narcissistic (because that's what their leader is), and this girl reminds me of it. She doesn't care about anyone, not truly, all she cares about is her own personal gain and what she needs to achieve it.

Manufactured love will only get you so far, you can only fake a feeling for so long because your entire life is not a stage performance, and time after time religious people prove themselves to be the nastiest individuals with such moral contempt over non-believers.

Miracles happen for those that are lucky. I am yet to here a person of strict religion answer the question of child rape and trafficking. There are simply atrocities too horrendous on this earth for there to exist any God. If there was a God, he would never let an innocent child be born, suffer with intestines full of parasites and die. It makes absolutely no sense. You ask a religious person and they mumble the usual vague bullsh*t, "it's all part of God's plan". If there is a God, he is a sick, sick bastard. Fact.

This is always a relevant argument but I somewhat understand the way Christians refute or debunk the thought, and you probably do as well, but in this life our pain and suffering is meant to be only temporary, the awful things you just used as examples are just a blip in our journey to the most important thing of all- eternity in heaven (although you made an excellent example of a baby born only to die, technically that child will die in sin without salvation, at God's choosing).

But here's another hypocrisy, if this life is practically downplayed as irrelevant, it's just a physical and barbaric representation of the soul, then why the f*** is it also so important? We only have one shot in this life to determine what happens in the next "real" life, yet when it's argued that God can do what he wants with this reality because it's simply a test, then it turns out this little test becomes very important in deciding your eternal livelihood. The more you break it down, the more insane it gets.

But nothing sums up how sick God is, and how nonsensical he is, than sending his own son to earth, to get stoned and die, and the reason? To make a point. What kind of person would do that to their own child?

I literally can't think of a worse example of morality through any historical context of horrible things happening, nobody has ever been sick enough to intentionally send their baby to grow up into a life of eventual torture and sacrifice.

 

[Marky]

Organized religion:

So...?
For where two or three gather together as my followers, I am there among them - Matthew 18:20

 

[Rudiger]

The advantages of religion are that it can provide a community of people to interact with, what some people call "the church", which helps in a modern world where most everyone has few friends.

I've realised the importance of this before but I just think it still shouldn't justify the existence of organised religion, we simply need to break down our communities and re-structure how we socialise. It's ingrained in our societies to engage with religion, even if half of people don't even believe in it (and I would say more than half) it is part of what we just, do, it's there, we follow because it's the safety net that represents us as good people.

We will all be better off when we realise we shouldn't need something telling us to be compassionate and interact with each other, that we're brave enough to do it on our own accord. Most people have these feelings of wanting to help, but things like organised religion supress it, we have grown up indoctrinated to the idea we MUST have a reason for our morality, and that reason MUST be to please God and our own selfish desire for eternal mental gluttony in the afterlife, when you take away these reasons we get scared and don't know how to behave.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I went to a religious school, a zionistic Jewish day school. Every morning we prayed from 8am to 9am. From 9am to 1030am we studied the Talmud.

I saw a lot of religious people who were meticulous about clothing, prayer, and diet be utterly contemptible in their treatment of other people. My theory was that human beings only have so many fucks to give, if they put in so much effort into worshipping God, they have very ltitle left to respect their fellow man.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

So...?
For where two or three gather together as my followers, I am there among them - Matthew 18:20

Do you seriously not see anything disturbing with that image?

 

[Marky]

This is the hilarious hypocrisy of religious people, turning the other cheek here? Not at all. Scratch just a little beneath the surface and you get the ugliest people who don't know how to think for themselves, who aren't born with that innate sense of caring that should be a natural thing in our species and other highly developed ones, instead you justify your morality by being told how to be moral, which is very disturbing and in the future will be classed as a mental illness.

Keep in mind I didn't personally insult you before, I didn't doubt your intellect, but your belief system should be considered schizophrenia. Not only do miracles fail to happen every day, but you don't have proof of them happening even once, and if it wasn't for Constantine choosing to make Christianity "happen" in the 3rd century, you wouldn't even know about this great divine spirit that apparently is the base of your mortality.

Ridiculous.

Yawn. I think time is running out for people like you who go around poisoning people's minds with atheism, it's time to get tough and turn the other cheek in a different way - sorry. And indeed you insulted me first.

Did you even read the link?! Those weren't miracles, come on give it a shot.

 

[Marky]

Do you seriously not see anything disturbing with that image?

Other than a crowd worshiping together, could you point out what else it was intended?

 

[Marky]

I went to a religious school, a zionistic Jewish day school. Every morning we prayed from 8am to 9am. From 9am to 1030am we studied the Talmud.

I saw a lot of religious people who were meticulous about clothing, prayer, and diet be utterly contemptible in their treatment of other people. My theory was that human beings only have so many fucks to give, if they put in so much effort into worshipping God, they have very ltitle left to respect their fellow man.

There are bad people in religion too, or who go about things the wrong way. But many are not like that. Quit trying to cop out.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Other than a crowd worshiping together, could you point out what else it was intended?

That's a tomb of Mohammed, he is an alleged prophet from the 7th century who conquered a lot of land. Those are great achievements but it's time to move forward, we don't have crowds worshipping Alexander the Great or Trajan.

People go there, they travel to a distant land, and walk around in a circle all day. What for?

Well, some Muslims apparently believe that if they do the Hajj then all of their prior sins are wiped out. One Muslim guy once told me that he wants to wait to do it, because he gets to keep sinning in the meantime as his sins will be wiped out. Do you not see the absurdity of this?

 

[buckthorn]

So...?
For where two or three gather together as my followers, I am there among them - Matthew 18:20

Are you simply going to quote a bunch of crap that humans made up??? Humans... the species that rapes children. Humans.. the species that is obliterating their only home. Humans.. the only species to ever commit multiple acts of genocide.. and yet, you live by their word?

 

[Marky]

There was this religious girl in my junior college. She was very religious. She wanted to be a biochemist, but she didn't believe in evolution.

Anyway, one time in philosophy class she said the reason she behaves nicely and politely with other people is that she wants to go to heaven.

at least she's trying, we are all broken fallne humans trying to earn our wings back

 

[Marky]

That's a tomb of Mohammed, he is an alleged prophet from the 7th century who conquered a lot of land. Those are great achievements but it's time to move forward, we don't have crowds worshipping Alexander the Great or Trajan.

People go there, they travel to a distant land, and walk around in a circle all day. What for?

Well, some Muslims apparently believe that if they do the Hajj then all of their prior sins are wiped out. One Muslim guy once told me that he wants to wait to do it, because he gets to keep sinning in the meantime as his sins will be wiped out. Do you not see the absurdity of this?

I thought that might have been Islam but couldn't make it out clearly as I'm laying and typing on a couch.
I'm Catholic, not Muslim and don't see eye to eye with the quaran

 

[Marky]

Are you simply going to quote a bunch of crap that humans made up??? Humans... the species that rapes children. Humans.. the species that is obliterating their only home. Humans.. the only species to ever commit multiple acts of genocide.. and yet, you live by their word?

Bible was inspired by the Holy Spirit and the teachings of Jesus Christ. I only quoted once. Make sure you know how to read the Bible properly before spewing inaccurate interpretations....Mr Pinkman

 

[Rudiger]

Yawn. I think time is running out for people like you who go around poisoning people's minds with atheism, it's time to get tough and turn the other cheek in a different way - sorry. And indeed you insulted me first.

Did you even read the link?! Those weren't miracles, come on give it a shot.

I think you're so indoctrinated you don't understand what an insult is (this was one) because I doubted your belief system, I didn't get personal, I didn't insult your intelligence. And I'm Agnostic actually, but as for time running out for Atheists? Do you just deny statistics? It's the fastest growing "movement" out there, and true believers in Christianity are dying out.

"Come on give it a shot" hahaha! You aren't even trying. I highly doubt you really believe this sh*t in your heart of hearts.

Let's go back to something I said before which you failed to address- Atheism is apparently poisonous, yet an Atheist believes in morality because we are evolved creatures that want to better mankind (I have a different view on this but regardless).

Your "non-poisonous" viewpoint isn't about humanity, and morality, your "healthy" viewpoint is "I have a book that tells me to care about people so that I can get eternal salvation and whatever the f*** I want in heaven".

That's a disgusting way of thinking. It's the core fundamental of Christian theory and it's absolutely flawed, which is why you'll probably ignore it again.

So I'll ask you in a different way, without God and Jesus, would you be a rapist and murderer? Do you really need someone to tell you not to do terrible things? Because you criticise Atheists and they don't need to be told to do anything, clearly superior beings over yourself.

Go on write "yawn" again because you can't refute any of this.

 

[uncomfortable man]

If god could get back to mauling those who mock baldness with big angry mama bears on their period, then I will gladly join the Christian faith.

 

[uncomfortable man]

oh and welcome op, more nw6s here are definately welcome. but you need a nick name... like churry. and my advice may contradict many others here as far as being social goes. im afraid that getting out and meeting new people will only backfire for guys like us and further alienate and depress you, because lets face it, baldness is a social handicap and people can be insensitve a holes to our kind.

 

[pjhair]

Did you even read the link?! Those weren't miracles, come on give it a shot.

I can give you a list of miracles performed by various Hindu saints living today. Are you going to start following Hinduism?