Do u think theres gonna be a cure in 20 years?

[Kirby]

I think part of the problem is what we already got on the market. Minoxidil and finasteride are obiously the top sellers as well with the hair transplant surgeons. They will try everything to keep scientist from developing a cure so as long as they can still turn a profit. There is too much in stake for all of the companies that sell hair loss solutions to allow a cure. If you took what we have out on the market right now, I would say yes there is a cure out there, mabe sooner than later.

There can't be much money to be made from finasteride or minoxidil, both are widely sold as generics. A half-decent new treatment would easily make far more money than either.

 

[abcdefg]

CB 03 01 if it all works out as expected would be a cure in a sense because we could safely stop male pattern baldness and unwanted hair growth. A safe once a week topical that stronger then propecia? Yes please. The idea of lowering a hormone that has worked well for me my entire life scares me more then a little.

 

[ldk13]

Everday I look in the mirror at my hair and say just a couple of more years just hang in there when the unfortunate reality is were always only 3-4 years from a cure.

I have read up on this cb 03 01. Sounds very promising. But its only being used in clinical trails for acne. It will be 2015 at the very earliest before it goes on the market, and thats if it clears fda approval. And it may be as late as 2017.

 

[abcdefg]

Yeah no one ever said science was fast too bad we only live so long. If I was born 10 years earlier I might not ever have to worry about hair loss what an age that will be if it ever happens and I personally think it will

 

[rwhairlosstalk]

by my azz we will. I get so tired of being disappointed.

 

[akp22191]

It's so stupid. They're trying to come up with a topical solution for the whole PGD2 thing instead of an oral medication that can block the GPR44 pathway. I mean wtf is another topical solution going to do. They need to pull a propecia; come up with a pill that blocks the PGD2 pathway that's it.

 

[abcdefg]

Here is something I dont get and maybe there is a reason for it though. Every different company making a cream, lotion, or say topical formulation of whatever new drug needs a good topical delivery vehicle that is optimal for whatever molecule they are trying to transport to wherever in the skin. Why is there not a company that specializes in making these vehicles with research on them and selling them specifically prepared for that sized molecule so ever single company does not reinvent the wheel? I mean the only variation is the molecule properties like size, weight, and so on. Cosmo says we have this CB molecule give us best most effective vehicle and then just buy it think how much time and money that saves the companies. I dont get it. Right now CB 03 01 is going to take how much time as they figure out a vehicle which many other companies have researched and many different vehicles exist which may or not work well with CB 03 01.
I think these will there be a cure topics are kind of silly its nearly impossible to predict I mean literally anything could happen. It could be another hundred years or a month from now something out of nowhere.

 

[akp22191]

It's kind of weird how we can build nukes and ****, & still can't find a cure for male pattern baldness. I have a feeling someone somewhere already knows a possible cure. But why would any company or business want to come up with a cure? What's the meaning of a cure? What we have right now aren't cures for male pattern baldness, but rather medications we have to keep taking to be effective. As long as we take them, they treat our hair loss & the companies achieve profit. A cure is when you take one needle shot on the top of your scalp, and all you hair grows back within months, & you live and die from then on with a full head of hair. That's what a cure would look like. No company would be willing to do this, cause once the shot is taken, you don't anymore shots.

 

[squeegee]

It's kind of weird how we can build nukes and ****, & still can't find a cure for male pattern baldness. I have a feeling someone somewhere already knows a possible cure. But why would any company or business want to come up with a cure? What's the meaning of a cure? What we have right now aren't cures for male pattern baldness, but rather medications we have to keep taking to be effective. As long as we take them, they treat our hair loss & the companies achieve profit. A cure is when you take one needle shot on the top of your scalp, and all you hair grows back within months, & you live and die from then on with a full head of hair. That's what a cure would look like. No company would be willing to do this, cause once the shot is taken, you don't anymore shots.

Maybe med cies want customers :doctor:??..they want to medicate us, not cure the problem. Androgen Alopecia is more complicated than just loosing your hair.. It is a systematic problem. Androgen is not the big picture.. there is more to it..

 

[akp22191]

When your hairline matures is it possible to notice miniaturization along the hairline only including the temple points? Cause when I went in for a scalp miniaturization test at Hair Club, it only showed miniaturizing hairs along the hairline. They tried to scheme me, but I'm not that dumb so I told them to **** off & got on propecia instead. Even my dermatologist has said I don't have male pattern baldness right now, but he did give me an indication that if I did I would be put in the norwood 3 chart, hence my dad's a norwood 3 diffuser. I'll explain better: The front of my hairline started dying off, then a month later the right temple point started dying off. Now what's ****ing weird is that the front hairline is much thicker along with the right temple point. But the left temple point which was still in it's juvenlie position has started to thin/die off. I'm using the word die since it could apotosis aka cell death of the juvenile hairline?

 

[abcdefg]

Well male pattern baldness is a complicated problem but if you stop androgens the rest never happens so in a way stopping androgens can stop male pattern baldness regardless of all the other factors which come into play downstream of the androgens initializing everything.
I dont know but I feel mature hairline is a made up term. Your going bald and losing hair regardless of what they call it with no way of predicting what could happen

 

[abcdefg]

I have no idea what the timeline will be, but I have little doubt at some point we will be growing hairs from stem cells. The amount of hair is just cost/time to grow tons of them as fast as possible so it might take time to refine and improve the techniques but I really think stem cells will lead to a cure for male pattern baldness. I think besides just hair though we will someday be growing all kinds of organs or blood I mean how cool is that? Plenty of hurdles like cancer and things but I mean the potential is endless well beyond hair. They just need to figure out ways to make it cheaper and faster.

 

[uncomfortable man]

In twenty years I will be well into my sixties. **** that.

 

[abcdefg]

Yeah the time factor is kind of a big one which is what makes all these trials so painful. You watch your hair die off one day at a time knowing something like RU or CB could probably keep it, but its years before you can ever get it legit. When your old enough is getting your hair back as important when your life is already nearly over anyways not to mention wrinkles and all the other problems you get

 

[akp22191]

Hey I though I should share something that I just found when I was searching about the whole PGD2 cure thing.

http://www.oxagen.co.uk/crth2-1.htm

If you look at the website for oxagen by clicking on that link, you can see that they have a [h=3]CRTH2 inhibitor almost ready to be completed. If you look at the very bottom OC2286, it says suitable for topical use, selectivity, & potency established. [/h]I mean why would someone need a topical for asthma? Could it be that they're working on a topical form for male pattern baldness, where it blocks the CRTH2 receptor hence limiting PGD2 on the scalp? It's already been identified that the CRTH2 and GPR44 pathways are the ones that need to be blocked in order to lower the PGD2 on the scalp.

 

[abcdefg]

PGD2 was hype up beyond belief, but right now the facts are we have no proof it does anything yet. There is no proof yet that I have seen showing that PGD2 makes a difference in humans with hair growth we just have the very common theory and media hype

 

[Kirby]

PGD2 was hype up beyond belief, but right now the facts are we have no proof it does anything yet. There is no proof yet that I have seen showing that PGD2 makes a difference in humans with hair growth we just have the very common theory and media hype

True.

 

[abcdefg]

I dont know if suppressing DHT 100 percent is a cure or not. Its certainly dangerous to do I would think. I think testosterone is a part of the problem and cant be ignored so I think the receptors are better target then hormones themselves.

 

[Sparky4444]

True.

We have absolute proof that PGD2 is involved somehow --- users on this forum have seen SOME FORM of regrowth after putting CET on their heads...granted, it is not major regrowth by any stretch, but it IS REGROWTH...

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I dont know if suppressing DHT 100 percent is a cure or not. Its certainly dangerous to do I would think. I think testosterone is a part of the problem and cant be ignored so I think the receptors are better target then hormones themselves.

Man, I honestly think that DHT is not the major player it is made out to be...or at least the ONLY major player...we all believe that is starts with DHT and that is the be-all-and-end-all to getting this under-control...but I don't think it is.

 

[ben760]

suppress dht by 100% for a long time as well use minoxidil - this is the cure lol

we need dht(sex, brain function, muscle) even women has dht in small amounts.

even a cure is found, its not for us anymore.