Do You Think Justin Bieber Is Balding? (pics)

[recedingornot87]

I don't know. Maybe. I'm running an experiment on myself right now with finasteride for 2 weeks. I tried 1.25 mg/day for a year 4 years ago and it did nothing for me. Since I had my surgery I've had trouble applying my topicals while I was healing. So I decided to try 5 mg a day of finasteride to see if that would help me until I get back to my usual routine. I'm gonna check my blood in 1-2 weeks to see if my DHT is suppressed on this dose. Some of us just might be more resistant to the meds than others and thus need a higher dose. That's easy to confirm by just checking DHT before and after though on the blood.

Also re: Bieber, from a Lipstick Alley thread on Bieber's balding:

White male aging is weird. They either go full on Homer Simpson by 30 or get rugged handsome, ain't no in between. Looks like Biebers genetics is more Homer. ​

Hahaha just brutal. Lipstick Alley is one of the most brutally red pilled women's websites on the Internet.

For reference, Bieber's "Homer Simpson" family genetics:

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holy sh*t so many bald dudes at once.... are those people from both sides of his family or only his dads? If his moms side atleast has somewhat okay hair genetics he probably will be fine.

 

[Kagaho]

wow that picture says a lot, man. This guy will need a multi-angled and carefully planned strategy to fight hairloss.

Genes arent on his side

 

[IdealForehead]

Your the first person to recognize just how dire my situation really is. Its a relief and a sinking feeling all at the same lol. I count hairs as I go about my day ( I rarely leave the house ) I check my pillow every morning for hairs, this is usually in between 10 - 20. Very next thing I do is go for a shower ( I shower almost daily because my hair is too thin without my special shampoo ) and while wetting my hair I usually count 4 - 8. Then applying shampoo I count about 15, another 5 roughly when rinsing my hair but it could be more as I don't get a chance to see all the hairs due to soapy eyes. I moderately towel dry my hair and lose about 15 - 20 more. Once that's done I run my hands through my damp hair a few times to puff it up and I get another 10 - 15. I then blow dry my hair on cool setting and lose about 20 doing that. Once that's done I comb my hair and get another 10 or so in the bathroom sink. Throughout the day I'll go to the bathroom maybe once an hour and I'll always get some hairs falling when I run my hands through my hair a few times, I on average lose between 3 - 6 every time I do this ( sometimes its been as high as 15 ). I estimate I probably lose 20 - 40 hairs that I don't see fall during the day. Depending on how bad I'm shedding the number will be on the higher end of my estimate scale. Bottom line is I lose 150 - 200 hairs a day and its been that way for 4 months now
I've been on my 'new' regimen for a little under 2 weeks now and shedding has not decreased yet, but I know its still early.

@michel sapin I'm afraid of dutasteride. finasteride ate away my temples pretty quickly and I never recovered. dutasteride would probably be a lot worse for me.

That's brutal. You and @Georgie probably have the highest shed rates on this site.

I'd agree you've definitely lost ground in the last 6 months since I've been here. So good you're hitting it hard and aggressive. Problem is now you have to wait to see what happens. The fastest you can expect slow down of loss is 1-3 months. If it hasn't slowed down or stopped by 3 months there's almost certainly something still wrong.

Is your family aggressively bald? Have you had any bloodwork to check for other issues like nutrition or thyroid?

 

[Eren]

Still, he has great hair if it stays like this.

Seeing how f*****g slow everyone goes bald makes me wonder what the f*** happened in my case. It went from thick lively hair to coarse, lusterless qualitatively shitty hair and sh*t density in less than 12 months from the onset of male pattern baldness.

If my baldness went as fast as the likes of Bieber, Kutcher etc then I would have so much less stress as a teen. f***.

Edit:
He's diffusing unfortunately.

Can be seen clearly from this picture, especially from this angle. He lost a lot of density

Then

Now/more recent

 

[AnxiousAndy]

You and @Georgie probably have the highest shed rates on this site. That's brutal.

I'd agree you've definitely lost ground in the last 6 months since I've been here. So good you're hitting it hard and aggressive. Problem is now you have to wait to see what happens. The fastest you can expect slow down of loss is 1-3 months. If it hasn't slowed down or stopped by 3 months there's almost certainly something still wrong.

Is your family aggressively bald? Have you had any bloodwork to check for other issues like nutrition or thyroid?

Yup it sucks.. Especially when everyone else tells me I'm fine and have BDD, etc. Hair loss in my family isn't that bad. My older brother who is 31 is NW1.5. My dad is 52 with NW2.5 and early crown thinning. My uncle is bald, he started shaving when he was NW3v at 27. Maternal grandfather went bald in his 50s or 60s. Same with paternal grandfather. Other relatives do have hair loss but not to the point of shaving or anything ( with a couple of exceptions )
From what I've seen I'm the youngest to bald in my family (14)
What can I do if my regimen doesn't work? Or am I at the end of the road with what I'm using now?

 

[IdealForehead]

Yup it sucks.. Especially when everyone else tells me I'm fine and have BDD, etc. Hair loss in my family isn't that bad. My older brother who is 31 is NW1.5. My dad is 52 with NW2.5 and early crown thinning. My uncle is bald, he started shaving when he was NW3v at 27. Maternal grandfather went bald in his 50s or 60s. Same with paternal grandfather. Other relatives do have hair loss but not to the point of shaving or anything ( with a couple of exceptions )
From what I've seen I'm the youngest to bald in my family (14)
What can I do if my regimen doesn't work? Or am I at the end of the road with what I'm using now?

Wtf are you 14 years old now? How old are you? Are you at least fully grown/developed? Did you get blood tests yet?

 

[AnxiousAndy]

Wtf are you 14 years old now? How old are you? Are you at least fully grown/developed? Did you get blood tests yet?

No I meant i started balding at 14! I am almost 21. I actually stopped growing when I started balding. No blood tests or anything. Family doesn't have thyroid problems or anything like that.

 

[Mykonas]

Still, he has great hair if it stays like this.

Seeing how f*****g slow everyone goes bald makes me wonder what the f*** happened in my case. It went from thick lively hair to coarse, lusterless qualitatively shitty hair and sh*t density in less than 12 months from the onset of male pattern baldness.

If my baldness went as fast as the likes of Bieber, Kutcher etc then I would have so much less stress as a teen. f***.

Edit:
He's diffusing unfortunately.

Can be seen clearly from this picture, especially from this angle. He lost a lot of density

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That's not diffusing so far he has no sign of hairloss under any pattern he can still wear his hair however he wants you. check those paparazzi videos in youtube

 

[Eren]

That's not diffusing so far he has no sign of hairloss under any pattern he can still wear his hair however he wants you. check those paparazzi videos in youtube

Attached a picture of him from years back. Difference is huge man.

But yeah, it's not bad or anything. It's not like his hair is complete sh*t It's better than mine was at 20.

It's undeniable though that he is losing hair.

 

[biddybomb]

I cant believe some people still doubt he's losing hair. I have almost the same hair he has now and can tell you he's playing coverup game

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His progression is extremely rapid dam

 

[IdealForehead]

No I meant i started balding at 14! I am almost 21. I actually stopped growing when I started balding. No blood tests or anything. Family doesn't have thyroid problems or anything like that.

Can you go see a doctor? Get your blood checked at least to be sure. Thyroid, iron, b12, blood count maybe at least. Test and DHT if you can.

As for your regimen, the only thing beyond increasing finasteride/cypro doses you could do is add a topical anti-androgen. But if you don't respond to your oral regimen, I'm not confident it would make a difference. I'm not sure why, but we've seen several examples of people on this site that don't seem to respond to anti-androgens in general. It's probably freakishly rare though.

You could also try PRP if you can afford it and scalp muscle Botox which is also expensive.

 

[Georgie]

Can you go see a doctor? Get your blood checked at least to be sure. Thyroid, iron, b12, blood count maybe at least. Test and DHT if you can.

As for your regimen, the only thing beyond increasing finasteride/cypro doses you could do is add a topical anti-androgen like daro. But if you don't respond to your oral regimen, I'm not confident it would make a difference. I'm not sure why, but we've seen several examples of people on this site that don't seem to respond to anti-androgens in general. It's probably freakishly rare though and you've got high odds strong enough androgen blockade should solve the problem.

You could also try PRP if you can afford it and scalp muscle Botox which is also expensive.

Or carboxy therapy

Carboxytherapy is used for the treatment of hair re-growth or hair loss. Carboxytherapy works as follows; it improves circulation at the injection site by forcing red bloods cells to release oxygen and pick up C02 to be eliminated by the body. This process of oxygenating the area causes angiogenesis of blood vessels in the area by nourishing the hair follicle much like laser hair rejuvenation. For Carboxytherapy hair rejuvenation, the injection of C02 has a vasodilation effect (opening up of tiny blood vessels) which allows for the increased nourishment of vitamins and nutrients to the scalp for increased hair growth and stabilization of hair loss. It is a great natural hair loss treatment and works wonders in combination with injected mesotherapy for hair loss.

 

[AnxiousAndy]

Can you go see a doctor? Get your blood checked at least to be sure. Thyroid, iron, b12, blood count maybe at least. Test and DHT if you can.

As for your regimen, the only thing beyond increasing finasteride/cypro doses you could do is add a topical anti-androgen like daro. But if you don't respond to your oral regimen, I'm not confident it would make a difference. I'm not sure why, but we've seen several examples of people on this site that don't seem to respond to anti-androgens in general. It's probably freakishly rare though and you've got high odds strong enough androgen blockade should solve the problem.

You could also try PRP if you can afford it and scalp muscle Botox which is also expensive.

I'm terrified of this not working. I seem to be getting a lot less sperm which is an indication its working right? My shed from minoxidil is brutal so I'm not sure even if the cyproterone is working it will be able to overpower the minoxidil. I've looked around a lot on other hair loss sites and I've found very few people that have had a shed last as long as mine has ( 4 months + )
I suppose I could go see a doctor but that's pretty far from my home and I'm quite a hermit. I may reduce my minoxidil dose and see if that helps, but I'll ride it out for another week or two and see how things go.

 

[sunchyme1]

@JoeBonanza if you dislike any of idealforehead's posts again, you will banned mate

 

[recedingornot87]

I'm terrified of this not working. I seem to be getting a lot less sperm which is an indication its working right? My shed from minoxidil is brutal so I'm not sure even if the cyproterone is working it will be able to overpower the minoxidil. I've looked around a lot on other hair loss sites and I've found very few people that have had a shed last as long as mine has ( 4 months + )
I suppose I could go see a doctor but that's pretty far from my home and I'm quite a hermit. I may reduce my minoxidil dose and see if that helps, but I'll ride it out for another week or two and see how things go.

Aren't you scared of f*****g up your health long term by trying all of these things. If all of this sh*t isn't working for you its just ur destiny to be slick bald bro (no offence its my destiny too).

 

[AnxiousAndy]

Aren't you scared of f*****g up your health long term by trying all of these things. If all of this sh*t isn't working for you its just ur destiny to be slick bald bro (no offence its my destiny too).

Not really, no. I don't fancy growing old and ending up all alone in a care home.
Its too soon to tell if its working or not, I'm almost 2 weeks in on Cyproterone and oral estrogen which is not really much time. The last couple of days I have been shedding slightly less so hopefully it keeps up and is a sign of good things to come. I don't think I could ever accept my fate being bald and I will fight it to the bitter end. How can you be sure you are destined to be bald without using any treatments? ( your regimen says nothing )

 

[Sladewilson]

I don't understand why people in this forum consider shedding like a real indicator of male pattern baldness (of course i'm not talking about 300 hairs shedding, usually like 70-120). I mean hairs must probably be falling from every area of the scalp (including the donnor area which doesn't go bald), so why exactly should it be alarming?

My mother sheds a sh*t ton while showering and brushing her hair, but doesn't give a f*** and is not balding

 

[IdealForehead]

I'm terrified of this not working. I seem to be getting a lot less sperm which is an indication its working right? My shed from minoxidil is brutal so I'm not sure even if the cyproterone is working it will be able to overpower the minoxidil. I've looked around a lot on other hair loss sites and I've found very few people that have had a shed last as long as mine has ( 4 months + )
I suppose I could go see a doctor but that's pretty far from my home and I'm quite a hermit. I may reduce my minoxidil dose and see if that helps, but I'll ride it out for another week or two and see how things go.

Absolutely if your sperm has dropped that is a strong sign of anti-androgen response. If your minoxidil shed is lasting more than 6 months you should probably stop it as some people may have a bad reaction to it (not truly known but some people report this). Any shed up to 3-4 months or so can easily be Telogen Effluvium and a good sign of long term response.

The chance of being a man with male pattern baldness who doesn't respond to cypro and all those drugs you're on is probably less than 1/500. Dutasteride alone is effective in around 99% of men.

 

[AnxiousAndy]

Absolutely if your sperm has dropped that is a strong sign of anti-androgen response. If your minoxidil shed is lasting more than 6 months you should probably stop it as some people may have a bad reaction to it (not truly known but some people report this). Any shed up to 3-4 months or so can easily be Telogen Effluvium and a good sign of long term response.

The chance of being a man with male pattern baldness who doesn't respond to cypro and all those drugs you're on is probably less than 1/500. Dutasteride alone is effective in around 99% of men.

Thanks for the reassurance bud I'll wait and see what happens with this shed and if it goes on another 2 months I'll drop it since it seems to be doing more harm than good right now. I'll keep you updated if you decide to stick around on the forums

 

[davesmith420]

I don't understand why people in this forum consider shedding like a real indicator of male pattern baldness (of course i'm not talking about 300 hairs shedding, usually like 70-120). I mean hairs must probably be falling from every area of the scalp (including the donnor area which doesn't go bald), so why exactly should it be alarming?

My mother sheds a sh*t ton while showering and brushing her hair, but doesn't give a f*** and is not balding

Same. When my sisters used to live at home the shower drain used to look like there was a damn hairy monster coming out.

I've been on finasteride for 2 and a half years and I still lose a fair amount of hair daily; however I haven't lost any ground.