Don't know why I'm losing hair or what to do

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I should correct my statement in that I don't think any of those things directly cause hair loss but it's possible that they could change the ph of the scalp and thereby perhaps facilitate over-runs of p. acnes and malassezia fur fur. If you take a multi-vitamin, it's highly doubtful that you are malnourished. Virtually everyone starts taking vitamins when they first notice hair loss. I did. Usually it is biotin and other B-vitamins that most of us already have enough of but vitamins won't hurt either and it's one fewer complicating factor to worry about.

I found an article about possible ph changes from changes in water density:


#2. ACV is mildly acidic​


"Apple cider vinegar has a pH level of 2-3, which is considered mildly acidic. Interestingly, when it comes to acidity versus alkalinity, there’s evidence that parts of our skin actually favor an acidic environment for health. And in this regard, ACV might have some therapeutic benefit. Here’s how this might relate to our hair.


As a refresher, ceramides are the building blocks of our epidermis (i.e., the outermost layer of our skin). If our ability to produce ceramides is impaired, our skin barrier begins to break down. This leads to dermal dehydration, dandruff, inflammation, and a host of other problems that may partly contribute to hair loss.


Interestingly, studies show that the production of ceramides only occurs at an acidic pH (9). Thus, our epidermis must remain in a slightly acidic state for those tissues to produce ceramides and maintain skin barrier functionality.


On that note, a shift toward an alkaline environment seems to have negative impacts on our hair health. For instance, studies show that alkaline hair shafts are frizzier, more damaged, and more prone to breakage (11).


There are many factors that can create a more alkaline environment in our scalp skin. Two common culprits: (1) harsh surfactants in shampoos, and (2) mineral deposits in shower water.


We’ll dive into how surfactants and hard water can disrupt skin barrier health in a future article. For now, just know that acetic acid – or apple cider vinegar – might be useful in combatting a shift toward alkalinity. In doing so, its application might help promote the production of ceramides, restore skin barrier health, and thereby improve our hair.


Again, without a clinical study, we just don’t know."

Here is a second article related to the role of vitamins in hair loss:

Oh, I don't actually take a multi-vitamin...
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Should I be? /shrug

It could be that once a b12 deficiency is found, that when it "falls back" to another b vitamin, or backup way of doing this methylation process, it basically "locks" that other vitamin into place, and not go back to b12. Which could explain non b12 deficiency but bald and b12 deficiency from birth control but not bald. It's possible perhaps?

There definitely needs to be more studies beyond one stint with rabbits. More funding and more studies that can potentially help mankind.
 

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You’re probably just balding, bro, but “sea breeze” was a good one!
 

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You’re probably just balding, bro, but “sea breeze” was a good one!
The winds carry the minerals from sea.
It's also a recent change and daily occurrence.

???

Why should I have automatically discounted sea breeze in my speculation?
 

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Why would minerals cause balding lol
How have you discounted that they could?

Have a look at the article that Janey Elizabeth posted on apple cider vinegar. I think you'll find it interesting.

Basically, the hair and protective layer of the epidermis (of the scalp) favor a more acidic environment and minerals can make it more alkaline. "Breakage" is also more prevalent in more alkaline hair.
 

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I’ll second this.
I had no idea you had the qualifications to diagnose people online as being mentally ill.

Tell me, not knowing what medical condition you have and asking for help, what's the official name of that mental illness?
 

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I had no idea you had the qualifications to diagnose people online as being mentally ill.

Tell me, not knowing what medical condition you have and asking for help, what's the official name
I dunno. schizophrenia?
Tell me, do you see the sea minerals?
 

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I dunno. schizophrenia?
Tell me, do you see the sea minerals?
So, anyone that has an unknown medical condition and seeks help is somehow schizophrenic...

It looks like you're here just to harass people. Please leave.
 

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So, anyone that has an unknown medical condition and seeks help is somehow schizophrenic...

It looks like you're here just to harass people. Please leave.
Look buddy, if you think a sea breeze, sunshine, brushing your hair and the rest of your list is causing your balding and not male pattern baldness—ah fuk it, I’m sure it is the breeze. Stay indoor band you’ll be okay.
 

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Look buddy, if you think a sea breeze, sunshine, brushing your hair and the rest of your list is causing your balding and not male pattern baldness—ah fuk it, I’m sure it is the breeze. Stay indoor band you’ll be okay.
I didn’t say "this is what I think it is"...

Throwing out the context of "here's my speculation" and "that's possible how do I test" etc. And supplanting that with "what he thinks" just to harass me. Lovely.

Janey Elizabeth already showed that minerals (like in sea water) affecting PH and UVs affecting bacteria can be linked to types of baldness. And before you magically discounted it.

Really... First it's "just bald" the umbrella term, now it's "just male pattern baldness." Based on what. What test did you do to get that.
 

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Sounds like you're saying that just to make money.

There are a lot of people selling solutions with claims that can't be verified.
 

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If your hair loss is patterned ie happens only in certains area or particularly on the top of the scalp and relatively slow ( Evoluting in matter of months not weeks ), it's probably Androgenetic Alopecia and all the things you listed at best had an incredibly small effects.

Go see a derm and have him examine you, see as many GP as you need for that referral and if the derm is sh*t starts again.
I'm all for not self diagnosing Androgenetic Alopecia off the bat and staying open on other diagnosis, but don't delude yourself too much, just get a good specialist and trust his opinion.
 

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I'm not sure if youre trully 37 but why would you not have access to Finasteride? If I was you I wouldn't focus on the trivial things mentioned in your post.
Hey man.

That was a while ago. I didn't have access to a GP let alone an expert. The "system" basically rejected that I would even have some sort of medical problem. No, I don't know why.

Fortunately, after months of panicking and asking people, a kind soul recommend a GP. They did some tests then referred me to an expert, a dermatologist. It's the genetic one -- Now I'm on monoxydil and going back in February to see if I also need finasteride.

I don't think it's wise to discard speculation, especially as a layman. Yes, the speculation might seem ridiculous, but could still be true. You don't know, because you're a layman. I was able to ask the dermatologist my questions and clear it all up.
 
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