Dr lee, what he told me

[RalphyWiggum]

Yea true redbone. I thought about dr lee and if he is trying to sucker me just to buy his products. I think he kinda is a little, but not really. He seems really honest and a nice guy.

And you should try xandrox its most likely better than spironolactone. spironolactone is just a dht blocker when xandrox is dht blocker regrowth stimulant and prolly better to apply. Plus you need a regrowth stimulant man. Azelaic acid is in xandrox and is supposed to block 100 percent dht where applied.

Tril, i wouldnt fall for their sh*t. Its not proven or anything. I would rather just use xandrox and finasteride. Tril you need a regrowth stimulant 2 man. Try Xandrox. And i gotta call my uncle about the fluridill still. He wouldnt approve it if it was sh*t i guarentee you that. But im sure its not a miracle product. I think you would have beter luck with xandrox or finasteride.

Unlike most of my esteemed collagues at this forum I do NOT have a high opinion of dr. lee. I feel he contributes NOTHING to furthering our understanding hair loss or hair loss treatments.

What he does do is take a pseudo treatments like azaleic acid (which has NO in vivo evidence proving its efficacy) and wants to convince you it will block 100% of the dht on your scalp. WHATEVER.

And as far as spironolactone goes I commend Dr. Lee on gaffling a widely prescribed treatment by European Hair Doctor's and pawning it off as his own. Bravo Dr. Lee.

Then he has the audacity to talk about the effectiveness of 6-BAP and Fluridil being unsubstantiated?!?! His hypocricy is almost laughable!

My advice: go to cheap lame *** site like wholesale if you want to try azaleic aicd with minoxidil. Make your own spironolactone with dermavan. Don't Put this charlatan's kids through college by paying a 300% mark up.

 

[RalphyWiggum]

Ive heard good things about 12%. Are you using it?

Nope, but I've never heard good things from anyone who "claimed" to be using.

But if you are aware of someone who is claiming differ then by all means direct me to their rave review...

 

[Guest]

Kinda agreed. He seems like a nice guy but he is not a crook in my opinoin. His products are proven to work. Although he does bash other products that arent his all the time. But a lot of people use his products with good results.

What did you hear about Xandrox 12%?

 

[RalphyWiggum]

Kinda agreed. He seems like a nice guy but he is not a crook in my opinoin. His products are proven to work. Although he does bash other products that arent his all the time. But a lot of people use his products with good results.

What did you hear about Xandrox 12%?

Oh absolutely he's not so much a crook as he is a hack.

Regardless, I've never heard any outrageously good reviews of any of his xanadrox products to the likes of which you could not alone attribute to 5% minoxidil.

Otherwise I am a believer in his other products because they are proven or semi-proven.

I just wouldn't put him on the same level as Dr. Proctor...

 

[Cal Que Later]

Glad to see others can read the ingredients in Dr. Lee's products. In my opinion acne treatments mixed with Minoxidil are not worth the price he is charging. All you are paying for is the mixed product, which is not needed. Just apply the Minoxidil and acne treatment separately and you will save a lot of money, which a lot of people seem to like.

 

[Redbone]

Don't get taken younguy the success of his products is backed my a proven ingrediant Minoxidil. Has he improved the effectiveness of this product- No I don't see the facts.

Go to hairlossproducts.com and order the hair saver pack and you will not only save a shitload of money but will help your hairline to.

Lee adds funky stuff to his products like BV which others say is bad but he implores that it is safe, Maybe but I want something that has no controversy around it. Get the 5% minoxidil with Azleic acid and 2% spironolactone 2 months for $79 and send the money you saved to my PO Box.

 

[Guest]

Im not expecting a miracle with his sh*t just minimal results. Plus you use spironolactone, and spironolactone is his. And again minoxidil with azeliac acid is xandrox.

And EVERY hair product has controversy. I cant think of one that doesnt. minoxidil, propecia, duasteride. Everyone says propecia can give permanate sexual side effects, that minoxidil can increase hairloss, and that duasteride is just evil. Yet many people get good to great results with these products and do not get any of the side effects. Some do and some dont.

My point is, if I was to stay away from every hairloss product that had controversy I would be bald in no time. The proven most successfull products for hairloss have controversy even though they deliver great results for a lot of people. You have to take chances if you wanna beat baldness.

Plus i think you can buy xandrox without bv.

 

[Redbone]

yes, your right I want you to use those products but you can get them elsewhere cheaper. Like the site I gave you above. Lee does not own spironolactone he merely sells it and he also sells 5% Minoxidil with Azleic acid that he calls Xandrox. If you really want to try his stuff go ahead it cant hurt- I personally want to save as much money as I can. This battle is already costing me $220/mo I ordered spironolactone for %15 and $4.95 shipping, Lee would have charged me $20 plus a $20 consultation fee. Get the point?

Younguy if all else fails shave your head- works for Justin Timberlake look at all the hotties he's banged. I am close to shaving mine down to a 2 all around.

 

[Pelican]

Misc

When Xandrox 12% came out there was a flood of use comment on it in the newsgroup and on boards like these. I can't think of a single comment that was good. Of course this was in the first few months, and I stopped paying attention after that, but the gist of it was that people were experiencing severe shedding around the hairline on it. Make if that what you will, especially given the fact that minoxidil not uncommonly prompts a shed phase regardless, and most guys who are using it are probably either already dealing with a decimated hairline or are riding that edge - so any change to them is huge.

Lee makes his new 15% formula sound like a breakthrough, not simply in the concentration but in its ability to do its work. How it supposedly does that, I have no clue.

I do know that if I applied Minoxidil twice a day - whether it's been plain old minoxidil or even the 'non-oily' varieties - including after I'd showered, with my hair type I'd look like my hairline was terrible until I re-washed my hair and dried it.

 

[Redbone]

Other prominent docs have told me that the higher concentrations of minoxidil do nothing. Younguy you sure have a big wallet.

 

[Guest]

I know. I have like no cash left. Dr lees sh*t is expensive compared to other sh*t. Atleast i have a a good amount of supplies.

And i dont think that xandrox 12% causes massive shedding. I think people really overdue things here. Everyone told me to expect a huge shed when I started minoxidil and I have yet 2 see that after 2 months. Also I read a forum somewhere of a bunch of guys who tried xandrox 12% and most of them got good results. Only like 3 guys complained about shedding out of like 15.

And one thing i noticed here. Is this is the net, this forum gets everyone who doesnt respond to treatments and gets side effects. The people who get good results and respond well dont need 2 go to a hairloss forum and talk about it. Just cause like 10 guys on the net you read say they get side effects and shedding that doesnt mean they are the majority.

And a lot of guys who try these products have been loosing their hair and thinning for years and they fail to mention that. I think you will have a better chance of shedding the longer you have been thinning and loosing.

 

[Guest]

Plus im not gunna use the Xandrox 12% for now. Just

Xandrox 5% azelaic acid without BV daytime solution
spironolactone 5%

Try this out for a week and if I have no problems im gunna try Xandrox 5% nightime solution with retin-a. Use that only once first week, twice 2nd week, and so on 2 get aclimated 2 it. Depending on my results and how my hair is like in 3 months I will add Xandrox 12% and use it maybe everyother day and rotate it with spironolactone. Im just taking it one step at a time right now.

And Dr Lee's consultation fee is bullshit. I dont need 2 give him 20 bucks for pretty much nothing. He needs 2 understand that his products are overpriced already and hairloss is not cheap.

 

[Guest]

I thought the consultation fee was applied to the cost of the first order?

Check that clunky website of his and see what it says.

Also, he has a 15% xandrox now that is not a cream but a liquid. Supposedly it works better and does not burn the scalp. I am using it but it was just avaiable to the public October 1 so there are only a handfull of test patients to vouch for it at this point. But if you decide at some point to go with a higher concentration check back on the progress of the 15% liquid versus the 12% cream.

 

[Guest]

Yea I sent my consultation forms in and he recommended I use Xandrox 15%. I sent him a follow up about the 15% solution and I am waiting for a response. Where does he sell it yeddie? Its not on his site. And i trust dr lee and the patients. He wouldnt put out a crap product. It might not make miracles but im sure it might be a little better than the 12%.

Yea and he adds the $20 fee on your first order. And yea his website sucks ***. He must be cheap. I think he could afford a better website.

 

[Guest]

Last I looked, the 15% is not up on the website yet. This is what he told me:

"We have a small supply of Xandrox15 available now. We will have a large supply later on when we get a problem with labels fixed.

You can order and receive a 125 mL bottle of Xandrox15 by copying and pasting in the Comments Section of our Secure Order Form the following: I WANT TO INCLUDE ONE BOTTLE OF XANDROX15 SOLUTION IN THIS ORDER AT $88.00/ 125 mL BOTTLE."

1 per order right now.

 

[Guest]

I just got my last response from Dr Lee. He says that my

Xandrox 5% daytime solution
spironolactone 5%

Are a very strong regimen and its perfect for me. I asked him If I should eventually add Xandrox 5% nightime solution with retin-a and he said absolutely not. He said he wouldnt recommend any1 to use it really because of its act as a chemical skin peel. He said he only had that solution to increase the effectiveness of minoxidil 2% but now its not nessasary with more powerfull solutions like regular xandrox.

And he said i shouldnt use the Xandrox 15% for 6 months. He says for me 2 add it if i dont get resonable results with my current regimen.

 

[Redbone]

Thats right younsta don't go with the big guns till last. Have some ammo left in your gun.

 

[Guest]

Yea i agree. But my hairloss is recent so i definately need a good amount of power right now. I have some ammo left.

Propecia
Xandrox 15%
Duasteride if i get desperate

If none of these work out then im f*****g SCREWED and i will go bald. I dont have 2 many weapons left but the weapons i do got are some pretty powerfull effective weapons. One of um gotta work!