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[MJUK]

Nah..it doesn't take much time. It's just being able to use the search engines right

I'm tempted to try the pine pollen for awhile btw. The Surthrival is 15% off..or at least was..but I'd like to see what else is out there. The link with the quotes/info above also sells the stuff.

Jacob have you got any clincial studies showing any of these benefits? I can't find any using search engines.

 

[zeroes]

:uglylol:

you joined in 2005. It's 2012 now. SEVEN WASTED YEARS. That's almost a decade. What have you done since then? You're pathetic...

He is one of the most knowledgeable posters on here and it's great that he has 7 years of experience, it means he still cares and trying to help others.

What do you want, a revolving door of newbie posters and waiting forever for someone to find the magic cure?

 

[The Natural]

I agree. There is something to be stated for anyone and everyone who is still fighting the good fight against hair loss.

Would you rather Jacob just give up? C'mon dude.

 

[2020]

20/20 u are so f'n annoying! whats wrong with u ?

got any more pictures of your hairline? haven't seen one in almost two days.

 

[israelite]

20/20 u are so f'n annoying! whats wrong with u ?

got any more pictures of your hairline? haven't seen one in almost two days.

2020 u are so f'n annoying ! What's wrong with u

 

[2020]

20/20 u are so f'n annoying! whats wrong with u ?

got any more pictures of your hairline? haven't seen one in almost two days.

2020 u are so f'n annoying ! What's wrong with u

there is nothing wrong with me lol :innocent:

you've just repeated yourself

 

[hairhoper]

Back on-topic I tend to think Estrogen is good for hair, so taking an anti-estrogen really makes no sense unless you're also taking finasteride or something and are just trying to offset any potential side-effects (like gyno).

(Although I wouldn't do that if I was getting finasteride side-effects, I'd stop taking finasteride rather than starting a hormone balancing-act).

 

[Jacob]

Nah..it doesn't take much time. It's just being able to use the search engines right

I'm tempted to try the pine pollen for awhile btw. The Surthrival is 15% off..or at least was..but I'd like to see what else is out there. The link with the quotes/info above also sells the stuff.

Jacob have you got any clincial studies showing any of these benefits? I can't find any using search engines.

Which benefits? Don't expect much though...most supplements don't have such studies.

 

[Bryan]

Jacob have you got any clincial studies showing any of these benefits? I can't find any using search engines.

Which benefits? Don't expect much though...most supplements don't have such studies.

LOL!! Jacob, how does it feel to be quizzed all the time about the existence or non-existence of "proof" or "studies" or "clinical evidence"?? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[2020]

WHY ARE YOU TWO ALWAYS ARGUING?!?!?!? GET A LIFE. ONE MORE SARCASTIC COMMENT FROM EITHER ONE OF YOU AND ILL START POSTING PEDOPHILIA. SORRY KIDS

 

[Jacob]

Jacob have you got any clincial studies showing any of these benefits? I can't find any using search engines.

Which benefits? Don't expect much though...most supplements don't have such studies.

LOL!! Jacob, how does it feel to be quizzed all the time about the existence or non-existence of "proof" or "studies" or "clinical evidence"?? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

LOL!! It doesn't bother me at all since nowhere have I said it's the OBVIOUS thing to use or any other moronic sales pitch like you've been doing for 15+ years. Nor do I demand evidence from others while pushing such crap that lacks the type of evidence I'm demanding. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I swear..it's back to- I no longer think you're *playing* dumb :shakehead:

 

[Bryan]

...Nor do I demand evidence from others while pushing such crap that lacks the type of evidence I'm demanding. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

And I've already told you before in plain English that although there isn't the type of "evidence" you're looking for (like in medical journal studies), there's PLENTY of such evidence from Dr. Proctor's decades-long experience with these substances. Too bad you don't have the wit (or maybe just not the honesty) to admit that.

 

[Jacob]

Then stop asking others for such evidence.

And there are plenty of doctors just like Proctor.. with years of B.S. behind them(strange..those are your initials) even:
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=72201

 

[Bryan]

Then stop asking others for such evidence.

I rarely ask others for evidence. And when I do, it's generally when somebody makes a technical statement that I haven't heard of before (like something having to do with some drug that I'm not familiar with, for example), so it's perfectly natural for me to ask them for "proof" of such a statement or claim. This is a PERFECT example of something that you like to blow WAAAAY out of proportion, Jacob!

And there are plenty of doctors just like Proctor.. with years of B.S. behind them(strange..those are your initials) even:
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=72201

OF COURSE there are other doctors who do that! So what? What's your point?

By the way, my full initials are "JBS". My middle name is "Bryan", and it's the one I go by. Remember when I told you a few years ago what my FIRST name is??

 

[Jacob]

It's amazing..isn't it? You rarely demand/ask for evidence...just like you rarely push Proctor's crap whenever you can :woot:

Bryan is a shill for Proctor and his products. He's been shill 'n spam'n the crap for 15+ years. There are plenty of doctors with hair loss products out there. With patents on their ingreds/products as well. In fact, one of those doctors..Dr. Lee..for all these years.. has been bashed and ridiculed and questioned by Bryan. Bryan wants us to just trust and believe Proctor because he's a Dr, but isn't consistent when it comes to other Drs and their products. There is no evidence for Proctor's/Bryan's claims or wishes. Not only has Proctor not said which specific cu peptides are used, but he and Bryan also talk about "mysterious ingredients" that are not in the ingreds list(s). Snake-oil talk that is supposed to get you even more excited about the products. The same goes for their- "better bang for the buck" talk regarding getting the non-prescription products from places outside of Proctor's website. They want you to believe those cheaper versions are lite/watered-down...are you really going to purchase a lite/watered-down version of a product for something so difficult to treat as male pattern baldness? Buy the "more potent" crap directly from Proctor and he makes a bit more money. And to top it all off...Bryan doesn't even use the products himself, and hasn't since he supposedly did so well on one of them probably 15 years ago! He's pushing crap he supposedly doesn't even use- so don't bother asking him for updated before/afters. For all the reasons above..he should have been laughed out of these forums years ago.

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=72217&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=20

 

[2020]

SHUT THE f*** UP YOU TWO!!
SHUT THE f*** UP YOU TWO!!
SHUT THE f*** UP YOU TWO!!
SHUT THE f*** UP YOU TWO!!
SHUT THE f*** UP YOU TWO!!
SHUT THE f*** UP YOU TWO!!
SHUT THE f*** UP YOU TWO!!
SHUT THE f*** UP YOU TWO!!
SHUT THE f*** UP YOU TWO!!

 

[Bryan]

It's amazing..isn't it? You rarely demand/ask for evidence...just like you rarely push Proctor's crap whenever you can :woot:

Yes, stupid, I rarely ask for evidence. Don't believe me? Count the total number of posts in which I "asked for evidence", and then report that number as a percentage of my total posts.

It's put-up, or SHUT-UP time, stupid! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Jacob]

And Bryan also suffers from memory loss. Or..as I've been saying..he's not really *playing* stupid...

Bryan is a shill for Proctor and his products. He's been shill 'n spam'n the crap for 15+ years. There are plenty of doctors with hair loss products out there. With patents on their ingreds/products as well. In fact, one of those doctors..Dr. Lee..for all these years.. has been bashed and ridiculed and questioned by Bryan. Bryan wants us to just trust and believe Proctor because he's a Dr, but isn't consistent when it comes to other Drs and their products. There is no evidence for Proctor's/Bryan's claims or wishes. Not only has Proctor not said which specific cu peptides are used, but he and Bryan also talk about "mysterious ingredients" that are not in the ingreds list(s). Snake-oil talk that is supposed to get you even more excited about the products. The same goes for their- "better bang for the buck" talk regarding getting the non-prescription products from places outside of Proctor's website. They want you to believe those cheaper versions are lite/watered-down...are you really going to purchase a lite/watered-down version of a product for something so difficult to treat as male pattern baldness? Buy the "more potent" crap directly from Proctor and he makes a bit more money. And to top it all off...Bryan doesn't even use the products himself, and hasn't since he supposedly did so well on one of them probably 15 years ago! He's pushing crap he supposedly doesn't even use- so don't bother asking him for updated before/afters. For all the reasons above..he should have been laughed out of these forums years ago.

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=72217&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=20

 

[2020]

And Bryan also suffers from memory loss. Or..as I've been saying..he's not really *playing* stupid...

Bryan is a shill for Proctor and his products. He's been shill 'n spam'n the crap for 15+ years. There are plenty of doctors with hair loss products out there. With patents on their ingreds/products as well. In fact, one of those doctors..Dr. Lee..for all these years.. has been bashed and ridiculed and questioned by Bryan. Bryan wants us to just trust and believe Proctor because he's a Dr, but isn't consistent when it comes to other Drs and their products. There is no evidence for Proctor's/Bryan's claims or wishes. Not only has Proctor not said which specific cu peptides are used, but he and Bryan also talk about "mysterious ingredients" that are not in the ingreds list(s). Snake-oil talk that is supposed to get you even more excited about the products. The same goes for their- "better bang for the buck" talk regarding getting the non-prescription products from places outside of Proctor's website. They want you to believe those cheaper versions are lite/watered-down...are you really going to purchase a lite/watered-down version of a product for something so difficult to treat as male pattern baldness? Buy the "more potent" crap directly from Proctor and he makes a bit more money. And to top it all off...Bryan doesn't even use the products himself, and hasn't since he supposedly did so well on one of them probably 15 years ago! He's pushing crap he supposedly doesn't even use- so don't bother asking him for updated before/afters. For all the reasons above..he should have been laughed out of these forums years ago.

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=72217&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=20

yes yes, Bryan is a shill. You win. Here's your trophy:

will you stop arguing now?

 

[Jacob]

I won't stop pointing it out. Unless he stops shill'n. :wave:

BTW..my post to you in this thread: http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=73942&start=10 applies to you anytime you whine to anybody..including here. There are already tons of posts from you where this would apply.