Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

losingbattle88

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So i keep taking oral min and things will subside?You personally don't have any sides on oral min Dani they all lessened???
Bro if you cant even handle 1mg or get sides at that dosage you really shouldnt be taking it in the first place it could be dangerous for you. I use 12.5mg twice daily and no sides.
 

Henkgrim777

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Hey guys, An update as i'm 2 months in my regimen of 12,5mg cypro 0,25 mg duta ed, 5% minoxidil and 6 mg Estrogel Transdermal. I received my lab tests and my T is in the right range 26 ng/dl. Prolactin is slightly above normal (516 mu/l). I guess that's okay to keep there as I'm not planning to increase my Cypro dosage as T is already in preferred range. Only problem is my E needs to be raised as it's 33.3 pg/ml. So far my current hair thickened up but no signs of white dots of any form of new hair growing. I read E needs to be above 200pg/ml to have significant results. Y'all think this is true? Currently I'm applying 6mg everyday, 2mg morning, 2mg afternoon, 2mg evening. What would be the best way to increase my E levels as fast as possible? Y'all advice me to raise Estrogel to maybe 8mg a day or maybe switch to E injections? Anyone with knowdledge or experience commenting is very much appreciated. I want to start my regrowth cycle as fast as possible! :)

Test results:

E 33.3 pg/ml
Prolactin 516 mU/l
T 26 ng/dl
 
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likemike

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switch to E injections? Anyone with.....


This would be the best. E2V injection

I want these too
 

Henkgrim777

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Is it too much.

How is your E1 (800 pg/ml?)

6 mg are 6 hub

1 hub is maybe 0.6 or 0.75 mg E2.. Twice a day must be 300 pg/ml E2
Didn't test my E1 unfortunately. I do 2mg E three times a day. I'm planning to upper it to 8mg I think or add E pills. This is something Bridgeburn and Noah both did. I guess all of this will work add pills, higher gel dosage or injections.
 

Henkgrim777

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switch to E injections? Anyone with.....


This would be the best. E2V injection

I want these too
Yeah I saw some impressive results on forums. Wondering if anyone here has experienced a difference in results after switching to injections. It's something I would consider but I need to hear more stories as I'm not a big fan of needles myself haha. But anything for hair.
 

likemike

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If you take E2V pills, take it sublingually.

This must be as effective as injection..

I am testing Sublingually too and see more results in front hairline
 

Henkgrim777

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If you take E2V pills, take it sublingually.

This must be as effective as injection..

I am testing Sublingually too and see more results in front hairline
I see! So you have better experiences with sublingual than with transdermal? You combine them both or completely switched to sublingual? We might be in the same situation :)
 

cetm-419

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sublingual administration is a hassle with film coated pills... a lot of the dissolved material is swallowed by accident, it takes a long time to dissolve, and keeping it in place is hard. I recommend sublabial instead, under the lip, between the lips and the gums.

Also you should know that E2 levels drop down significantly within a few hours (depending on the dose) with sublingual/sublabial administration. So you should consider dosing 4 times a day. I take .5mg every 4 hrs, 4 times a day.
 

Trafalgar Law

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switch to E injections? Anyone with.....


This would be the best. E2V injection

I want these too
I want to use E2 injections as well, but I do not have health insurance at the moment. I prefer to get E2 from a provider, but I am not sure if I can get health insurance any time soon.
 

Henkgrim777

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sublingual administration is a hassle with film coated pills... a lot of the dissolved material is swallowed by accident, it takes a long time to dissolve, and keeping it in place is hard. I recommend sublabial instead, under the lip, between the lips and the gums.

Also you should know that E2 levels drop down significantly within a few hours (depending on the dose) with sublingual/sublabial administration. So you should consider dosing 4 times a day. I take .5mg every 4 hrs, 4 times a day.
Thanks for the tip! Is there a reason why you didn't try E gel?
 

likemike

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I see! So you have better experiences with sublingual than with transdermal? You combine them both or completely switched to sublingual? We might be in the same situation :)
Yes, sublingual is more effective... And scrotal too..
Estradiol valerate is more effective than Estradiol

I want to become feminine with a Norwood 0 hairline :D
 

Henkgrim777

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E gel goes systemic anyways, and as you can see in the first chart oral e2 is negligible.

Also the gel is less efficacious, so It would be much more expensive. (at least where I live).
You both gave me new insights thanks so much! Will order EV Pills and add it to my regimen every 4 hours. Will let y'all know how it goes!
 

cetm-419

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Under same lightning, same length.(just buzzed to 6mm)
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Bica 50-75mg ED 67days,Oral min 5mg 50days,dutasteride 10months (I was losing ground on it). And yes my hair is really darker now, not because of contrast/color correction. Its early to compare because im still shedding from oral min but whatever.
it's working insanely fast!!!

And yes.. my hair also got much darker with OM. You should also expect longer eyelashes and thicker eyebrows.. which I personally love.
 
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