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Marky

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depends how long you take estrogen for and there are different individual tolerances for that.. It is risky

No, I would not 100% recover. This stuff changes you. Even If I drop everything it is likely my testosterone production will only partially come back. And the gyno is permanent unless it is surgically removed. I will have giant nipples forever.
come on bridge nwowolfpack showed us his now it's your turn.
 

nWo Wolfpac

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So I have some bad news. After a few weeks I think the raloxefine is actually making my gyno worse. After the first week I thought it was improving but after that my nipples started hurting again and they became more puffy and pointy and now my gyno seems more pronounced than ever. It turns out that I am not the only person this has happened to.

Here is an account from another forum.

"I have mild gyno and I have been on Raloxifene for the last 9 days to try and get rid of it. I say 9 days because Raloxifene is not going to get rid of my gyno. I had bloods done today:
T is down from 19.5 to 16.8. E2 is up from 105 to 136 and progesterone is elevated slightly. Liver is good, HDL and LDL have elevated mildly, but are still in range. In spite of taking supplements, both my calcium and magnesium are out of the bottom of range.
In conclusion, Raloxifene is not going to get rid of gyno. This is pharma grade Raloxifene from my endo so I know that it is legit. In fact, seems more likely to encourage gyno to grow."
https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/Raloxifene-and-Gyno-m5422249.aspx

Someone else on reddit.

"Taking some raloxifene to kill some small lumps from superdrol rebound and test suspension and holy sh*t! The right side blew the f*** up! It went from just puffy to surgery zone! Help! Letro that previously crushed me and and bones doesn't seem to have any effect at 2.5mg a day! This is a nightmare please help."
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/2mtujv/gyno_exploded_on_raloxifene/

I am extremely disappointed as I did not even know that this was a possibility. I have an appointment booked to get some letrizole next week but I don't have much hope in that either. A lot of the time it seems that the gyno returns after people stop taking letrizole anyways. I'm tempted now to just say f*** it and resume taking as much estrogel and cypro as I want for my hair and start saving for gyno surgery. If I start saving now I should be able to afford it by the end of the year. Plus I feel pretty shitty lately. I think it's because I have low estrogen and low testosterone.
 

baldingAF

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Hey @bridgeburn and anyone else this pertains to...

When this intense regimen did it help out with your crown as well or was that never an issue?

If it did help did it come in slower or at a different rate than everything else?
 

nWo Wolfpac

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So i think the best way to get rid of gyno now is to start off with letrozole. letrizole reduces estrogen up to 98% . After a cycle of that then take raloxefene to block the estrogen rebound effect people get from letrizole.
 

Father_of_Shiseido

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So I have some bad news. After a few weeks I think the raloxefine is actually making my gyno worse. After the first week I thought it was improving but after that my nipples started hurting again and they became more puffy and pointy and now my gyno seems more pronounced than ever. It turns out that I am not the only person this has happened to.

Here is an account from another forum.

"I have mild gyno and I have been on Raloxifene for the last 9 days to try and get rid of it. I say 9 days because Raloxifene is not going to get rid of my gyno. I had bloods done today:
T is down from 19.5 to 16.8. E2 is up from 105 to 136 and progesterone is elevated slightly. Liver is good, HDL and LDL have elevated mildly, but are still in range. In spite of taking supplements, both my calcium and magnesium are out of the bottom of range.
In conclusion, Raloxifene is not going to get rid of gyno. This is pharma grade Raloxifene from my endo so I know that it is legit. In fact, seems more likely to encourage gyno to grow."
https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/Raloxifene-and-Gyno-m5422249.aspx

Someone else on reddit.

"Taking some raloxifene to kill some small lumps from superdrol rebound and test suspension and holy sh*t! The right side blew the f*** up! It went from just puffy to surgery zone! Help! Letro that previously crushed me and and bones doesn't seem to have any effect at 2.5mg a day! This is a nightmare please help."
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/2mtujv/gyno_exploded_on_raloxifene/

I am extremely disappointed as I did not even know that this was a possibility. I have an appointment booked to get some letrizole next week but I don't have much hope in that either. A lot of the time it seems that the gyno returns after people stop taking letrizole anyways. I'm tempted now to just say f*** it and resume taking as much estrogel and cypro as I want for my hair and start saving for gyno surgery. If I start saving now I should be able to afford it by the end of the year. Plus I feel pretty shitty lately. I think it's because I have low estrogen and low testosterone.
Please consider gyno surgery bro and ask them to remove entire gland. Playing with medicines might cost you some more hair.
 

Marky

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So I have some bad news. After a few weeks I think the raloxefine is actually making my gyno worse. After the first week I thought it was improving but after that my nipples started hurting again and they became more puffy and pointy and now my gyno seems more pronounced than ever. It turns out that I am not the only person this has happened to.

Here is an account from another forum.

"I have mild gyno and I have been on Raloxifene for the last 9 days to try and get rid of it. I say 9 days because Raloxifene is not going to get rid of my gyno. I had bloods done today:
T is down from 19.5 to 16.8. E2 is up from 105 to 136 and progesterone is elevated slightly. Liver is good, HDL and LDL have elevated mildly, but are still in range. In spite of taking supplements, both my calcium and magnesium are out of the bottom of range.
In conclusion, Raloxifene is not going to get rid of gyno. This is pharma grade Raloxifene from my endo so I know that it is legit. In fact, seems more likely to encourage gyno to grow."
https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/Raloxifene-and-Gyno-m5422249.aspx

Someone else on reddit.

"Taking some raloxifene to kill some small lumps from superdrol rebound and test suspension and holy sh*t! The right side blew the f*** up! It went from just puffy to surgery zone! Help! Letro that previously crushed me and and bones doesn't seem to have any effect at 2.5mg a day! This is a nightmare please help."
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/2mtujv/gyno_exploded_on_raloxifene/

I am extremely disappointed as I did not even know that this was a possibility. I have an appointment booked to get some letrizole next week but I don't have much hope in that either. A lot of the time it seems that the gyno returns after people stop taking letrizole anyways. I'm tempted now to just say f*** it and resume taking as much estrogel and cypro as I want for my hair and start saving for gyno surgery. If I start saving now I should be able to afford it by the end of the year. Plus I feel pretty shitty lately. I think it's because I have low estrogen and low testosterone.
I think you feel like you have low E and T because you are down emotionally over this. Until you get tests you can't conclude that.
Your testicles are still intact and will produce T. Whenever I cycle off cypro my libido feels like it goes into overdrive, then that might be compounded by continued E - I don't know. That's just my experience.
Since you take more for longer cycles it might just need more time to surge back.
 

nWo Wolfpac

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I think you feel like you have low E and T because you are down emotionally over this. Until you get tests you can't conclude that.
Your testicles are still intact and will produce T. Whenever I cycle off cypro my libido feels like it goes into overdrive, then that might be compounded by continued E - I don't know. That's just my experience.
Since you take more for longer cycles it might just need more time to surge back.

Your probably right. I just need some more time.
 

Derelict

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Mate order some raloxefine now. I had sensitive nipples at month one on spironolactone. At month 3 my gyno went from 0 to bad within in a week. And I’m still trying to get rid of it on letrozole now. You should stop spironolactone for a week and do raloxefine at 60mg and then start spironolactone again. You’d probably not get gyno doing this.

Sorry, for the late reply, where can i get raloxefine just incase? i don't like using bitcoin so a site where that's not the preferred method of payment would be good.
 

Marky

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gyno and infertility is the most extreme changes.
you're dick shouldn't shrink if you use it often. possibly erection issues but depends on person (v**** and cialis is an option if it happens) , fat will redistribute, chest hair will fall out, you'll feel emotional, I still have a strong libido but its a different type of libido than what testosterone gives.
Bridge how is the dexamethasone working out? Any results or observations - or is it too early still?
 

Stephen788

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Sorry, for the late reply, where can i get raloxefine just incase? i don't like using bitcoin so a site where that's not the preferred method of payment would be good.

I get mine from in-house and do an international bank transfer.
You should search Thailand pharmacy as I brought oral min from there and just done a bank transfer. I’m not 100% sure they sell it though.
 
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