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If you use injections, you don't need to use AA. Your T will be suppressed to the female level. I think Janey did just that.
Although I will continue to use Bicalutamide just in case, it is not superfluous
 

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If you use injections, you don't need to use AA. Your T will be suppressed to the female level. I think Janey did just that.
Although I will continue to use Bicalutamide just in case, it is not superfluous
I think finasteride would be more impotant than bica if you have high doses of E, if it were me I'd keep both.
 

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These are better to see the little hairs, I've been on 2mg estradiol, 50mg Bicaludamide, and taking 25mg progesterone consistently
So even such a low dose of E can induce regrowth or support? It's a shame we don't know your E levels with this therapy. I am planning on using injections. But I consider 2mg E as supportive therapy, because Bicalutamide alone does not stop my baldness. What suggestions do you have?
Even 100mg of Bicalutamide does not help me. I'm balding further, as if I'm not doing anything. Now I need to find some kind of compromise in HRT, because I don't want too much feminization

I think about HRT cycles once a year or so because I haven't found a supportive therapy that can keep my hair and stop balding.
But perhaps 50-75mg of Bicalutamide and 2mg of Estradiol per day will allow me to be in the middle between hormones and maintain results without forcing me to use HRT again.

By the way, did HRT return your hair diameter? Due to the thinning, I can no longer style the hair up, creating volume, because it falls down and is too thin. I want to restore the quality of hair, its thickness and shine. My goal is to make sure that the hair on the growth line is the same as on the back of the head. The ideal that I had at the age of 14
 
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After the injections, I will try 100-150mg of Bicalutamide as support. After the second cycle I will try 50mg and 2mg E. Let's see in which case I will go bald more slowly. Perhaps, in this way, I will accidentally find something that can help without such serious changes as HRT.
For example, Noah stopped baldness and even got a small increase of 2 mg E. This dosage does not reduce T to the female level, that is, it can be suitable for men. Perhaps it just allows you to balance between the two hormones.
 

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My ultimate conclusion is that without min hrt re growth will takes as long as it took to fall out :\
 

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My ultimate conclusion is that without min hrt re growth will takes as long as it took to fall out :\
There are many cases of regrowth within a year after years of baldness, but in general I agree: it is important to start as soon as possible.
That is why I will start injecting E this year. I will try my best to have an operation to remove the gynecomastia this summer. I need Janey's financial help. So that I start treatment as early as possible
 

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I'm new to the forums, and I joined because I was very curious about this thread and others like it. This regimen looks very extreme, and I was wondering if anyone knows what happened to bridgeburn. Is bridgeburn still taking this regimen today? Were the hair gains kept? I've read up to page 10 but I still have ~890 pages to go, so I figured I'd just ask. I'm also a little curious: it seems that many people posting in this thread today are MTF trans. Does that also apply to bridgeburn, or did he continue living as a man? His signature kind of confuses me (though it makes a thought-provoking claim!).

Apologies if these aren't suitable questions to ask (mods please don't ban me!).
 

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I'm new to the forums, and I joined because I was very curious about this thread and others like it. This regimen looks very extreme, and I was wondering if anyone knows what happened to bridgeburn. Is bridgeburn still taking this regimen today? Were the hair gains kept? I've read up to page 10 but I still have ~890 pages to go, so I figured I'd just ask. I'm also a little curious: it seems that many people posting in this thread today are MTF trans. Does that also apply to bridgeburn, or did he continue living as a man? His signature kind of confuses me (though it makes a thought-provoking claim!).

Apologies if these aren't suitable questions to ask (mods please don't ban me!).

Bride is not trans, he identifies as man, he has still kept his hair gains too.
 

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I'm new to the forums, and I joined because I was very curious about this thread and others like it. This regimen looks very extreme, and I was wondering if anyone knows what happened to bridgeburn. Is bridgeburn still taking this regimen today? Were the hair gains kept? I've read up to page 10 but I still have ~890 pages to go, so I figured I'd just ask. I'm also a little curious: it seems that many people posting in this thread today are MTF trans. Does that also apply to bridgeburn, or did he continue living as a man? His signature kind of confuses me (though it makes a thought-provoking claim!).

Apologies if these aren't suitable questions to ask (mods please don't ban me!).
You really only need to read up to page 300 or so when Bridge announces that he now has hair and a life, so see ya.

I started posting content here, at least a hundred pages worth but since I am "out" as non-binary, some of the old-timers complained about this being a tranny thread. I then took my content and started my own thread about using HRT for people "just in it for the hair" and like Bridge, I answer all questions and I relentlessly photograph and post pics, first on my own blog and then on my own thread which is derivative of Bridge's as I greatly admire him but I also try to deal with standard male and female questions and to post novel or interesting studies as they come out.

Here is a link to my last batch of pics from last Friday. I try to post every ten days to three weeks so I capture as much of the subtle changes as possible for people investigating whether this works. You can't fake months and months of copious pics in different lighting or my big cueball head from October of 2019. I would love to see you post and ask any questions. I also have invited anyone to direct message me if they have privacy concerns.

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@JaneyElizabeth thank you! I'll definitely read up to page 300 then. Definitely a very interesting story to finish if nothing else. I'll check out your thread as well.
To me it almost reads like a novel and you keep wanting to find out what happens next. No one thought to copy Bridge exactly and no one else had results as good as his. I have read through it a couple of times and placed remarks here. But mostly now, here, people sort of banter about HRT which is valuable but no one else is posting pics. Some on here like Tato do, but he was never bald. He mostly wants more feminine hair to wear it long and as maintenance but he is a medical intern and. a very good source and he's been a real help to me on here and on my thread. I also accept all questions via private messaging if there are privacy concerns but if there aren't, it's best to post on the open thread so others might profit from your questions and experiences. Because of the pandemic and my success, I view this as volunteer work and many people do have more time to try different things.

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Bride is not trans, he identifies as man, he has still kept his hair gains too.
That's why I coined the term, "I am just in it for the hair" as this relieves any doubt about, well will this make me trans? I mean, hormonally Bridge was chemically female and he made no attempts ultimately to curtail feminization and like me but less so, he had substantial breast development but such growth is highly uncommon for MtF's so I try to explain the parameters of avoiding breast growth. But he had a girl and did the things needed to do to maintain potency. I only care about the hair, not the assigned or asserted gender beneath it.
 

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I'm thinking of modifying my plan.
Originally I was going to go for 25-50 mg of Bica and 4-6 mg of E2 for the first three months before switching to 6+mg E2 monotherapy.
But now I'm wondering if it would be best to simply start out with 6 mg E2 monotherapy and add Bica after 3-6 months if the monotherapy wasn't enough to hit target E levels or suppress DHT.

I've never injected myself with anything, which is why my primary focus is on pills.
 

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I'm thinking of modifying my plan.
Originally I was going to go for 25-50 mg of Bica and 4-6 mg of E2 for the first three months before switching to 6+mg E2 monotherapy.
But now I'm wondering if it would be best to simply start out with 6 mg E2 monotherapy and add Bica after 3-6 months if the monotherapy wasn't enough to hit target E levels or suppress DHT.

I've never injected myself with anything, which is why my primary focus is on pills.
I recommend that everyone take a look at Bridge's protocol and try to copy it exactly. We know that that protocol resulted in almost complete restoration or people can try to formulate their own protocol but no one else was having success like Bridge.
 

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I've never injected myself with anything, which is why my primary focus is on pills
I've never injected either, but it's not hard to learn. It is many times cheaper and also much more efficient. This will bring your T down to a feminine level. You only need to inject once every 2 weeks, it is very convenient. Think about it

I recommend that everyone take a look at Bridge's protocol and try to copy it exactly
There is no point in imitating someone. The point is to get female hormone levels in the safest way possible. How - it doesn't matter
 

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I've never injected either, but it's not hard to learn. It is many times cheaper and also much more efficient. This will bring your T down to a feminine level. You only need to inject once every 2 weeks, it is very convenient. Think about it


There is no point in imitating someone. The point is to get female hormone levels in the safest way possible. How - it doesn't matter
That is absolutely not true. The safest levels might not grow hair. I am still evaluating the difference between 2,600 and 106 pg/ml which is just about as high and then about as low an adult female target as one can hit. Now my T levels have been 9 and 7 pmol which is very low but that not be enough just on its own. Not to mention that MtF's can do this for life, "XY's just in it for the hair" have usually a short time threshold in which to get results. Rarely do guys allocate more than one year of HRT to their efforts if they see minimal to no results. So low female targets might result in slower, growth with less shed possibility.

Remember, Bridge saw results right away. Many others moped for months and there were not a lot of other pictures shown. One female with PCOS apparently got no results whatsoever from HRT. She had a weird doll sort of icon. On the other hand in the main study MtF hair regrowth, which had only one person, I think both her E levels and T levels were far higher than mine, relatively. We know Bridge's protocols all appeared to grow hair and without delay. Someone else titrating themself might take, a bit like me, five years to reach the "magic" levels. Perhaps there is also a genetic factor while some get better regrowth and having diffuse thinning is probably easier to restore than say an NW5-NW7.

So the jury is still out and Janey knows juries.

Goddess bless and back to sleep,
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That is absolutely not true. The safest levels might not grow hair. I am still evaluating the difference between 2,600 and 106 pg/ml which is just about as high and then about as low an adult female target as one can hit. Now my T levels have been 9 and 7 pmol which is very low but that not be enough just on its own. Now to mention that MtF's can do this for life, "XY's just in it for the hair" have usually a short time threshold in which to get results. Rarely do guys allocate more than one year of HRT to their efforts if they see minimal to no results. So low female targets might result in slower, growth with less shed possibility.

Remember, Bridge saw results right away. Many others moped for months and there were not a lot of other pictures shown. One female with PCOS apparently got no results whatsoever from HRT. She had a weird doll sort of icon. On the other hand in the main study which had only one person, I think both her E levels and T levels were far higher than mine, relatively. We know Bridge's protocols all appeared to grow hair and without delay. Someone else titrating themself might take, a bit like me, five years to reach the "magic" levels. Perhaps there is also a genetic factor while some get better regrowth and having diffuse thinning is probably easier to restore than say an NW5-NW7.

So the jury is still out and Janey knows juries.

Goddess bless and back to sleep,
Janey
I don't understand your English well. But I'm talking about female levels, what does 106pg ml have to do with it? This is a low level, obviously the difference will be
With enanthate injections, E levels are not lower than 300 pg / mg on the last day before the next injection, i.e. levels are consistently high
You can do anything, if two schemes give the same levels of E and T - then the result will be the same for the same people. The Bridge Protocol produced rapid results for two reasons: genetic factor and minoxidil. Its success should not force us to use CPA and it is these forms of estradiol, this blind imitation does not make sense
Noah got good results too, why not copy it?

Personally, I will be using enanthate injections. I will start at 15mg E at 2 weeks and check my levels, aiming for high E and low T in the female range. I will also use Bicalutamide and Finasteride
 

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I don't understand your English well. But I'm talking about female levels, what does 106pg ml have to do with it? This is a low level, obviously the difference will be
With enanthate injections, E levels are not lower than 300 pg / mg on the last day before the next injection, i.e. levels are consistently high
You can do anything, if two schemes give the same levels of E and T - then the result will be the same for the same people. The Bridge Protocol produced rapid results for two reasons: genetic factor and minoxidil. Its success should not force us to use CPA and it is these forms of estradiol, this blind imitation does not make sense
Noah got good results too, why not copy it?

Personally, I will be using enanthate injections. I will start at 15mg E at 2 weeks and check my levels, aiming for high E and low T in the female range. I will also use Bicalutamide and Finasteride
I agree that 300pg/ml is a good level and safe starting out and bica and finasteride are good but bridge was using 5mg of oral min and 6mg SLmight be 18mg oral swallowed which seems enormous to me but many MtF's start at 6mg SL. Since you don't want breast growth you probably just want to hit 300pg/ml immediately and syringes and patches seem to be the best perhaps and then sublingual. We have all through of his protocols so maybe I will try to estimate his levels and you and Tato should too. Now AA's make it less clear about the E2 levels needed. I am a bit stumped by this in view of new talk about blood clots at higher levels but 6mg SL is nine times the amount needed to re-set the axis indefinitely.
 
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