Yeah and why would you take CPA when other drugs are safer and more efficacious. If you are on high enough doses of bica or E then there is literally no point in taking CPA. I would say the only cases it should be considered is when someone has high testosterone levels and doesn't want to use particularly high doses of E or other antiandrogens. And like you said, no point in going past 10mg anyways.
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I will use E if anti androgens alone fail!! I will take CPA or bica alone first
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Do you have personal experience on cpa?
bica is hard i think, do you take fina and duta too ? or the both don't work it is the reason which one you want to go to bica right ?
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i have a little bit of thinning and i can't lose time on dutasteride and finasteride!! I am taking them together because where i live they are super cheap and legit from pharmacy
where do you live ?
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Europe balkans!
Have you had your bloods done? Have you tried oral minoxidil or RU? What is your hair loss situation, briefly?
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Only crown thinning !! I think they don't sell oral min here RU neither!!
Well you could try drinking minoxidil and I'm pretty sure you can get RU shipped to you as I've seen plenty of people from other countries get it. I am just saying that it is quite the jump to go from finasteride/dutasteride to cpa/bica. First, unless you get blood work and have high testosterone then CPA is a waste of time IMO. And why not try bica topically? I would take some intermediate steps, as it could save you from gyno surgery, unless your blood work shows that you would need a more aggressive regimen. Especially if you only have thinning in one area.
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Yes I do. Currently on the stuff right now.
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posted this in a different thread but figured i'd do it here. tried to upload them in order and label them accordingly. pre-trt you can see my temples are still rounded down, my hairline was actually lower in high school but it moved up a bit around 20-21 and stayed there. the red shirt pic is couple years on trt, you can see the temple has chipped out a bit, not a big deal. the white shirt i think you can obviously see my hair was healthy, still on trt. started water fasting 5 days a week, then the last pic are what i would lose every shower this went on for 2 years, maybe a little more. that pile is 1000 hairs, and this happened all the time. there's my hair and temples after all that damage which is the same all over my head. you can see when i hold it out all those thin wispy hairs, that was all thick heavy and you couldn't even see through it, its that way all over. and of course the last one is of my left worse temple, i put a small blue line to show where the hairline was originally. there are some smaller dark hairs the camera didnt pick up, but theyve been there for years and don't change. derm suggested it was also age related thinning, lack of nutrition for a couple years and chronic Telogen Effluvium may have spent some of my hairs lifespan, who knows. at one point i prob lost 70% density compared to what i had. inflammation markers were high so went over to carnivore diet and Doctor put me on hydrocortisone 10mg.
ive been on oral minoxidil for a year, unfortunately switching brands gave me another huge shed about 4 months ago that wiped out all my progress. estrogen 2mg daily for the last 2 months. unfortunately i had a terrible reaction to finasteride so that's out, and i have a pituitary tumor so some of the AA are out, going for e monotherapy to take care of the low testosterone. my pre trt bloodwork my testosterone total was 80 and estrogen 40, so aiming for that or better. oral minoxidil stopped the crazy shedding, and adding a ton of supplements decreased it even further.
i plan to go up to 4mg estrogen a day, staying on 5mg OM twice a day, adding estrogen gel to temples, start getting serious about microneedling, finally do my prp every 4-6 weeks and evaluating each prp method every few months since there is so much variation in preparation. continuing supplements since they seem to reduce shedding, increase my hgh. also on low dose naltrexone for anti-aging/inflammation.
i don't have much hope of restoring the temples, i just want to get my density back and make the temples instead of curving back just straighten back up a bit and halt any further loss.
ive been on oral minoxidil for a year, unfortunately switching brands gave me another huge shed about 4 months ago that wiped out all my progress. estrogen 2mg daily for the last 2 months. unfortunately i had a terrible reaction to finasteride so that's out, and i have a pituitary tumor so some of the AA are out, going for e monotherapy to take care of the low testosterone. my pre trt bloodwork my testosterone total was 80 and estrogen 40, so aiming for that or better. oral minoxidil stopped the crazy shedding, and adding a ton of supplements decreased it even further.
i plan to go up to 4mg estrogen a day, staying on 5mg OM twice a day, adding estrogen gel to temples, start getting serious about microneedling, finally do my prp every 4-6 weeks and evaluating each prp method every few months since there is so much variation in preparation. continuing supplements since they seem to reduce shedding, increase my hgh. also on low dose naltrexone for anti-aging/inflammation.
i don't have much hope of restoring the temples, i just want to get my density back and make the temples instead of curving back just straighten back up a bit and halt any further loss.
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How much did it help you, you would say?? how much do you take?
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yes only one area !! The other areas more than I need of hair i am glad!But i need to reverse the thinning completely!
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As I expected, the side effects of HRT on the body are exaggerated. Almost 5 months have passed. I stopped dieting and started eating a lot of sweets (I stopped after a couple of months, but still, my diet got out of control) and did not gain fat mass. Either he scored so little that it is not noticeable. Either way, I will go back to a calorie deficit and I am confident that I can successfully keep my fat percentage the same.
My breasts have become more swollen, but it still looks more like gynecomastia than a woman's breasts. Although, of course, a genetic factor plays a role here: I am Asian.
Watch your diet and your body will be fine. Use Bicalutamide like AA and don't touch the CPA, which is more likely to burn muscle.
My breasts have become more swollen, but it still looks more like gynecomastia than a woman's breasts. Although, of course, a genetic factor plays a role here: I am Asian.
Watch your diet and your body will be fine. Use Bicalutamide like AA and don't touch the CPA, which is more likely to burn muscle.
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I want to add CPA or bica on my dutasteride+finasteride combo before i use E2 to finish the job!! Can i expect results on anti androgens alone for hair thickenning ??I am also low body fat and i count calories and exercise!! Which is better for reversing thinning in your opinion CPA or bica??
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I don't understand why everyone thinks about CPA. This is not the best choice.
People who have known me since last year know that at first I tried to follow Ein's example and get results with only AA. As I realized after some time of personal observation and reading similar experiments and studies, this does not work. Forget about it. Take the red pill and realize that HRT is the only one that works. Based or redpilled, lol
If you still have a desire to try it, then I have a better alternative when to do it. First, get the result on HRT, and then try to support it only on AA. You will not be able to do this and be convinced by my words, but this way you will not waste precious time and hair. While I was trying bicalutamide, I was very bald. I'm sorry for wasting time, and I advise you not to waste it on dubious schemes.
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I have never been bald like ever!! What is red pill?? Also i can get my hands on all those meds legit from pharmacy!! My end goal is to maintain the results with 5 ar inhibitors and AA if that is needed!! Also you don't use minoxidil or dutasteride why??I don't even care about sexual sides you?
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Dutasteride is too expensive and unnecessary; Finasteride is sufficient. Minoxidil has a ton of annoying side effects and is cumbersome to use. Only AA and 5AP do not stop baldness. Checked by me and many other forum members. If it were that simple, I wouldn't be using HRT right now.