Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[sg2000]

This dose is too high. Anything above 12.5mg on E injections is unnecessary and can cause serious sides.

thanks for the advice im going to take 25 mg 4 times a week(100 mg a week) -14 mg daily.

 

[sg2000]

This is from my reddit post, hope this helps.
Cypro is moderately safe short term, long term not so much. Over time it can cause brain tumors (meningioma, prolactinoma), overall elevates prolactine levels, depletes b12 in your body, can cause depression because it passes blood brain barrier etc.. You can keep using it with EEn for a month or two until levels stabilize, and than taper off slowly. but i'd honestly better stick to EEn mono or include Bicalutamide instead, cause it's relatively safer and more effective with good injection dose.

i dont want to worry about my hair anymore i dont plan tapering off meds i just want my hair forever

 

[Almas_NW0]

Finasteride can be omitted from HRT. I gave it up over a year ago. I only take Bicalutamide, but only to reduce the oiliness of my facial skin.

 

[sg2000]

Finasteride can be omitted from HRT. I gave it up over a year ago. I only take Bicalutamide, but only to reduce the oiliness of my facial skin.

hair needs low t and dht or high e?

 

[Almas_NW0]

hair needs low t and dht or high e?

Both. With low T and low E you won't be able to live, you'll feel terrible and you'll get osteoporosis.

 

[BeardCombover]

i dont want to worry about my hair anymore i dont plan tapering off meds i just want my hair forever

Your life, your choice=)
Imo bica is better because it only blocks testosterone receptor, so it can't bind to it, while cypro does similar thing but less effective and requires a pretty high dose to achieve this + it has progestogenic effect, which is responsible for reducing testosterone production by gonads. This progestogenic effect is very systemic and can interfere with many functions in the body, while decent dose of E basically dose the same with less sides.
In any case, i really recommend to track any headaches you get while on cypro. It's a first sign that either prolactine levels are too high or that a high dose of medication has reached blood brain barrier, or both. If this happens lower dose to 6,25 every other day or better cancel.

 

[sg2000]

Your life, your choice=)
Imo bica is better because it only blocks testosterone receptor, so it can't bind to it, while cypro does similar thing but less effective and requires a pretty high dose to achieve this + it has progestogenic effect, which is responsible for reducing testosterone production by gonads. This progestogenic effect is very systemic and can interfere with many functions in the body, while decent dose of E basically dose the same with less sides.
In any case, i really recommend to track any headaches you get while on cypro. It's a first sign that either prolactine levels are too high or that a high dose of medication has reached blood brain barrier, or both. If this happens lower dose to 6,25 every other day or better cancel.

yeah i might sound reckless but i want the most effective thing for my hair and thats whhy i wouldnt try it .I domt know the exactly dose that doesnt rise T too much
And then im scared of any upregulation ive heard all types of sh*t.

 

[sg2000]

Both. With low T and low E you won't be able to live, you'll feel terrible and you'll get osteoporosis.

I need hair i dont know what is the best thing to do for keeping my hair forever.
I think i need something else besides e2 for the sake of my hair

 

[BeardCombover]

I need hair i dont know what is the best thing to do for keeping my hair forever.
I think i need something else besides e2 for the sake of my hair

I'm not too sure if you actually need E in your regimen, but if you already made your choice, 5mg EEn/week and duta 0.5mg/day should be plenty for like 90% of ppl to stabilize their hair. Tho if you didn't use duta prior, loading dose of 1mg for the first month might be useful.

 

[sg2000]

I'm not too sure if you actually need E in your regimen, but if you already made your choice, 5mg EEn/week and duta 0.5mg/day should be plenty for like 90% of ppl to stabilize their hair. Tho if you didn't use duta prior, loading dose of 1mg for the first month might be useful.

I need to stop miniaturization and get regrowth for my diffuse thinning cause its gross one way or another , im doing 0.4 mo every 2 weeks

 

[Adri23]

My balls are hard as a rock lol. They are also drunk af

 

[Adri23]

It's over I need hair transplant....

 

[4141241241241]

Your life, your choice=)
Imo bica is better because it only blocks testosterone receptor, so it can't bind to it, while cypro does similar thing but less effective and requires a pretty high dose to achieve this + it has progestogenic effect, which is responsible for reducing testosterone production by gonads. This progestogenic effect is very systemic and can interfere with many functions in the body, while decent dose of E basically dose the same with less sides.
In any case, i really recommend to track any headaches you get while on cypro. It's a first sign that either prolactine levels are too high or that a high dose of medication has reached blood brain barrier, or both. If this happens lower dose to 6,25 every other day or better cancel.

is the progestogenic effect feminizing? does it do anything positive? I've seen people saying it's anti estrogenic and Noah, bridge and Solomon98 all used progesterone and had more regrowth than most of us

 

[4141241241241]

Finasteride can be omitted from HRT. I gave it up over a year ago. I only take Bicalutamide, but only to reduce the oiliness of my facial skin.

I think finasteride is useless but dutasteride is worth taking, a lot of people still have high dht even on hrt

 

[redwhite4534]

you have to get back on androcur or switch to bica. the thought of having 740 testosterone is making me want to vomit. how is that even possible with estradiol?

Is 740 test high considering I'm taking 2mg e and 2.5mg duta? When I start back on androcur, my shedding doubles. I'm considering doubling my estradiol to 4mg to lower T.

 

[BeardCombover]

is the progestogenic effect feminizing? does it do anything positive? I've seen people saying it's anti estrogenic and Noah, bridge and Solomon98 all used progesterone and had more regrowth than most of us

Cpa only antiestrogenic acivity is in uterus, and via it's supression of estrogen production by ovaries. Mb partly it's antiestrogenic in breasts, cause it occupies estrogen receptor to grow ducts. Same with progesterone afaik.
Regarding hair, pretty sure progesterone does nothing, maybe inhibit 5-alpha reluctase alittle, but it's negligible if you are on duta.
Good things are listed here (most are too exaggerated for my taste tho): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OGiomfiMk18nPb3ITKZD9pWPvWRUlyI06enxahQpHBI/mobilebasic
Might aswell mention some bad things from my personal experience.
Cyproterone ended for me when my Doctor ordered me to do mri cause of elevated prolactin levels and headaches, luckily didn't find anything but had to take Cabergoline to lower prl.
Moving forward to progestrone. This one probably messed with my aldosterone, which is pretty bad for me because i have lower levels of adrenal hormones, thus hypotension and sleepiness for me. Also got bloating, presumably because it also messes with acetylcholine receptor, thus slowed my gallbladder.
Regardless, even tho it didn't work for me, it might help someone with breast growth for example (some ppl cycle it for better results). might improve skin and mood too.
Ima stop rambling and go sleep tho..

 

[sg2000]

i need hair asap

 

[4141241241241]

i need hair asap

just get a justin bieber haircut to cover your baldness

 

[Adri23]

just get a justin bieber haircut to cover your baldness

She should also cut her balls. She sounds so desperate to get hair growth

 

[Almas_NW0]

It's over I need hair transplant....

Is this trolling? I started with much worse hair condition and now I'm Norwood 0. You and I are the only people on the forum who were able to maintain Norwood 0, although we started going bald at an early age. All thanks to early treatment.