Fasting For At Least 3 Days Could Rejuvenate Immune System

[drgs]

No, but it does cause erectile dysfunction and reduced libido.

While you fast, clearly

 

[Python]

This fast is only water for 3 days. As soon as you introduce sugar to the body, it's not gonna happen. Ramadan fasting is better than no fasting, but it won't regenerate the immune system. Also, the no water idea is crazy, you need even more water during fasting.

 

[xRedStaRx]

I had read this research a week ago, I don't think it'd do much about hair loss. but as male pattern baldness has a connection to Mastocytes and Immune System, it might reduce the follicle inflammation.

I didn't want to try fasting specifically for treating hair loss, But as tomorrow is the first day of Ramadan, I want to try the Islamic tradition of 1-month fasting (Originally has been ordered in Quran).
I will stop any other ongoing treatment (my current regimen, shown on the left) except Ketoconazole Shampoo (But reduced to 2x/w) during this month and I'll report any difference it would make regarding of male pattern baldness.

I'll be fasting Ramadan too as part of my religious activities.

However, you could save yourself the effort by taking immunosuppresent drugs, under medical supervision preferably. It's more effective against AA though.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arthritis-drug-helps-hairless-man-regrow-full-head-of-hair/

 

[Python]

I'll be fasting Ramadan too as part of my religious activities.

However, you could save yourself the effort by taking immunosuppresent drugs, under medical supervision preferably. It's more effective against AA though.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arthritis-drug-helps-hairless-man-regrow-full-head-of-hair/

I thought Muslims were allowed to wear turbans. Y'all are still concerned with hairloss?

 

[Mehrdad]

1. If you want to do a quick immune system reset, like what the scientists wanted to do while doing a trial, yep! you should do an entire 3-days fasting with only water (to not to die from the process). But in the original paper published by University of Southern California, the target of research was Prolonged Fasting. and I think the way of fasting tradition in Islam is the best example of balanced prolonged fasting!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/140605141507.htm

2. I don't want to take drugs and chemicals to f*** up my immune system, thank you!

3. Thanks for sarcasms! You were very helpful.

 

[RK85]

I'll be fasting Ramadan too as part of my religious activities.

However, you could save yourself the effort by taking immunosuppresent drugs, under medical supervision preferably. It's more effective against AA though.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arthritis-drug-helps-hairless-man-regrow-full-head-of-hair/

But this Tofacitinib works in completely different way on the immune system. Whilst fasting rejuvenates the immune system, "Tofacitinib citrate seems to trigger hair growth by turning off the immune system attack on hair follicles that is prompted by the disease". Which way could be better for people with androgenic alopecia?

 

[Helios]

Did you know the word gullible isn't in the dictionary?

Well at least it can be found on the internet.

 

[RK85]

I looked a bit on the internet and didn't found one site that says it causes ED. Only found that it's beneficial for your body, so....

Fasting has many benefits:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/health-benefits-of-intermittent-fasting/#axzz362OqdXrV
http://primaldocs.com/opinion/inter...l&utm_campaign=Feed:+PrimalDocs+(Primal+Docs)

There are other ways to maybe not rejuvenate, but at least improve immune systems. For example vitamins (i.a. B6, C, D), herbs (i.a. garlic, ginseng), less stress, more movement:
http://www.health.harvard.edu/flu-resource-center/how-to-boost-your-immune-system.htm

 

[SayifDoit]

A combination of Nofap and fasting I regained all my hair:
Heres a pic for proof.

Only take me a year.

 

[Python]

Fasting has many benefits:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/health-benefits-of-intermittent-fasting/#axzz362OqdXrV
http://primaldocs.com/opinion/inter...l&utm_campaign=Feed:+PrimalDocs+(Primal+Docs)

There are other ways to maybe not rejuvenate, but at least improve immune systems. For example vitamins (i.a. B6, C, D), herbs (i.a. garlic, ginseng), less stress, more movement:
http://www.health.harvard.edu/flu-resource-center/how-to-boost-your-immune-system.htm

I think vitamins are ways best for maintenance, but this fasting discovery actually does much more.

 

[drgs]

3 days in mice translate to 10+ days in humans

Body uses 5 days to get used to ketosis to begin with

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Some bodybuilder on slashdot discussing the same article:

"First I've been body building for approximately 12 years for the first 8 I never used the fasting method and followed the usual high protein diet you see plastered all over the internet.. I can tell you when I stated the fasting I realised the high protein diet was completely unnecessary and I now spend my hard earned cash on better things, you do not need the protein the industry tries to make you believe in fact if you just eat regular healthy meals you will be more than fine even if your huge!. I fast for 24 hours followed by 24 hours of very light eating.. I do this to let my body know its about to have little to eat for a while! then the next 48 hours fast. I found it difficult at first when I started but after a few months it became as easy as skipping a meal. My body changed more after the fasting than it ever had in the previous 8 years of body-building, this is how I now it works. I went from 7% bfat to 4.2% I also put on over 1.2kg of muscle over the first two years. Even my hair got thicker, I had skin problems and it cleared up, my memory improved and I generally feel healthier. I'm never ill and I've not had as much as a common cold, I doubt it's all down to fasting but one thing for sure its made a huge difference to my well being and body! I still work out while fasting but I don't do the heavy stuff just keep it light and fast.. I like to believe the body thinks its hunting for fuel and is perhaps why it seems to go into overdrive! The day after I just eat what I always eat healthy food nothing special. I've also cut back on the amount of workout I need over the years as its all about maintaining for me now, I'm where I want to be.. you as about my workout regimen well I've found you can't follow anyone's and expect to get the same results its all down to your own body and needs."

(24 h fast + 24 h light eating + 48 h fast) x every two weeks

 

[frenchy]

might be a stupid question but i dont get the link you are making between Rejuvenate Immune System and male pattern baldness ??

 

[Python]

3 days in mice translate to 10+ days in humans

Body uses 5 days to get used to ketosis to begin with

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Some bodybuilder on slashdot discussing the same article:

"First I've been body building for approximately 12 years for the first 8 I never used the fasting method and followed the usual high protein diet you see plastered all over the internet.. I can tell you when I stated the fasting I realised the high protein diet was completely unnecessary and I now spend my hard earned cash on better things, you do not need the protein the industry tries to make you believe in fact if you just eat regular healthy meals you will be more than fine even if your huge!. I fast for 24 hours followed by 24 hours of very light eating.. I do this to let my body know its about to have little to eat for a while! then the next 48 hours fast. I found it difficult at first when I started but after a few months it became as easy as skipping a meal. My body changed more after the fasting than it ever had in the previous 8 years of body-building, this is how I now it works. I went from 7% bfat to 4.2% I also put on over 1.2kg of muscle over the first two years. Even my hair got thicker, I had skin problems and it cleared up, my memory improved and I generally feel healthier. I'm never ill and I've not had as much as a common cold, I doubt it's all down to fasting but one thing for sure its made a huge difference to my well being and body! I still work out while fasting but I don't do the heavy stuff just keep it light and fast.. I like to believe the body thinks its hunting for fuel and is perhaps why it seems to go into overdrive! The day after I just eat what I always eat healthy food nothing special. I've also cut back on the amount of workout I need over the years as its all about maintaining for me now, I'm where I want to be.. you as about my workout regimen well I've found you can't follow anyone's and expect to get the same results its all down to your own body and needs."

(24 h fast + 24 h light eating + 48 h fast) x every two weeks

It's 3 days in humans, they have already experimented with humans. There is no need for 10 days, as long as your turn off PK, then you're good an that happens at day 3.

I would imagine just like anything in life, the more you do the better. When you push yourself a little further during weight lifting, you get better results, maybe it's the same with fasting.

 

[drgs]

It's 3 days in humans, they have already experimented with humans. There is no need for 10 days, as long as your turn off PK, then you're good an that happens at day 3.

I would imagine just like anything in life, the more you do the better. When you push yourself a little further during weight lifting, you get better results, maybe it's the same with fasting.

1 day of dry fasting apparently equals 3 days of regular water fasting

 

[benjt]

Guys, this will not work at all for hair loss.
You are mixing up full-blown immune responses with (partly dual-function) processes which are only parts downstream in an immune response.
Fasting fixes the former, but not the latter.

To explain more in detail: PGD2 is part of an immune response which gets triggered for inflammation reasons, e.g. when you have tissue which needs to be deytroyed (apoptosis) due to infection, being harmed due to a cut or burn, or whatever. In the case of hair, though, we have the dual-function in hair cycling: Here, PGD2 is leading the hair into telogen phase by inducing apoptosis for later hair renewal. However, PGD2 is not summoned because of an immune system response, even though under normal circumstances it is part of one. Thus, fasting will do nothing for male pattern baldness/Androgenetic Alopecia.

If it was acquired immune response that targets hair follicles, then the fasting would work. But it is not an acquired immune response (like, e.g., against bacteria or viruses); thus, fasting is of no relevance to the immune-response-like processes in Androgenetic Alopecia/male pattern baldness.

 

[drgs]

Guys, this will not work at all for hair loss.
You are mixing up full-blown immune responses with (partly dual-function) processes which are only parts downstream in an immune response.
Fasting fixes the former, but not the latter.

To explain more in detail: PGD2 is part of an immune response which gets triggered for inflammation reasons, e.g. when you have tissue which needs to be deytroyed (apoptosis) due to infection, being harmed due to a cut or burn, or whatever. In the case of hair, though, we have the dual-function in hair cycling: Here, PGD2 is leading the hair into telogen phase by inducing apoptosis for later hair renewal. However, PGD2 is not summoned because of an immune system response, even though under normal circumstances it is part of one. Thus, fasting will do nothing for male pattern baldness/Androgenetic Alopecia.

If it was acquired immune response that targets hair follicles, then the fasting would work. But it is not an acquired immune response (like, e.g., against bacteria or viruses); thus, fasting is of no relevance to the immune-response-like processes in Androgenetic Alopecia/male pattern baldness.

"Researchers are now investigating the possibility that these effects are applicable to many different systems and organs, not just the immune system."

White blood cells just happened to be the subject of the study

 

[uncomfortable man]

Guys, this will not work at all for hair loss.
You are mixing up full-blown immune responses with (partly dual-function) processes which are only parts downstream in an immune response.
Fasting fixes the former, but not the latter.

To explain more in detail: PGD2 is part of an immune response which gets triggered for inflammation reasons, e.g. when you have tissue which needs to be deytroyed (apoptosis) due to infection, being harmed due to a cut or burn, or whatever. In the case of hair, though, we have the dual-function in hair cycling: Here, PGD2 is leading the hair into telogen phase by inducing apoptosis for later hair renewal. However, PGD2 is not summoned because of an immune system response, even though under normal circumstances it is part of one. Thus, fasting will do nothing for male pattern baldness/Androgenetic Alopecia.

If it was acquired immune response that targets hair follicles, then the fasting would work. But it is not an acquired immune response (like, e.g., against bacteria or viruses); thus, fasting is of no relevance to the immune-response-like processes in Androgenetic Alopecia/male pattern baldness.

Thread should end here. All of these threads in this section on vitamins, minerals, stopping smoking, stoping masturbation, emu oil, lazers, etc. are all just dead ends that lead nowhere. This is just a problem that is too complicated to crack... for leading scientists and basement chemists alike.

 

[Python]

Guys, this will not work at all for hair loss.
You are mixing up full-blown immune responses with (partly dual-function) processes which are only parts downstream in an immune response.
Fasting fixes the former, but not the latter.

To explain more in detail: PGD2 is part of an immune response which gets triggered for inflammation reasons, e.g. when you have tissue which needs to be deytroyed (apoptosis) due to infection, being harmed due to a cut or burn, or whatever. In the case of hair, though, we have the dual-function in hair cycling: Here, PGD2 is leading the hair into telogen phase by inducing apoptosis for later hair renewal. However, PGD2 is not summoned because of an immune system response, even though under normal circumstances it is part of one. Thus, fasting will do nothing for male pattern baldness/Androgenetic Alopecia.

If it was acquired immune response that targets hair follicles, then the fasting would work. But it is not an acquired immune response (like, e.g., against bacteria or viruses); thus, fasting is of no relevance to the immune-response-like processes in Androgenetic Alopecia/male pattern baldness.

Fair enough, but I do you think it may help those with alopecia areata and universalis? Since those are typically considered auto-immune diseases, or maybe even get worse since you get a stein immune system.

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Thread should end here. All of these threads in this section on vitamins, minerals, stopping smoking, stoping masturbation, emu oil, lazers, etc. are all just dead ends that lead nowhere. This is just a problem that is too complicated to crack... for leading scientists and basement chemists alike.

Go to your section and stay there and take JZ with you while you're at it.

 

[uncomfortable man]

Go to your section and stay there and take JZ with you while you're at it.

Watch Guliver's Travels (preferably starring Ted Dansen from Cheers). Note the part in the story where Guliver boards the floating city that all the greatest minds live on. Watch that part because that floating city reminds me of this section, filled with insane scientists talking gibberish.