Fatty acids stimulate follice stem cells to grow hair? I am going to test this...

[losingbattle88]

Well... Applying pure oleic acid is very irritating for the skin plus using 96% alc with it will f*** up the skin barrier long term and also cause skin inflammation. Applying little as possible and max 3 times a week would be ideal. I will look for oleic on amazon.

 

[losingbattle88]

Just to update some of you. I ordered 95% food grade alcohol. And pure oleic acid liquid from warchem. Will be interesting to experiment with this. My mixture will be 15/85.

 

[Ĺawton]

Just to update some of you. I ordered 95% food grade alcohol. And pure oleic acid liquid from warchem. Will be interesting to experiment with this. My mixture will be 15/85.

Yep curious to see how that works. I am going to post a 12 week update photo on May 5th.

 

[losingbattle88]

Yep curious to see how that works. I am going to post a 12 week update photo on May 5th.

Yes. Just sux that they dont state the purity of it in %. Just says (pure) so we will see if I mix 15/85 or 20/80 for possible loss of purity.

 

[strictly4myhair]

I would like to give yall a update of my own as well!

So as it stands now it's official everything that I'm gonna be using to purge The Second Head build up has been ordered amd is on the way! Big shouts out to Law/Best, and AQBS!

Here's pictures of everything I ordered.

1: Pure Rosemary Oil
I saw a comment that Law made and read his post on here about his experience with it! He said after the third time of applying it (in combination with dmso, will touch on that later) it basically gave a crazy vasodilation / purging sensation and it basically brought the hardened fibrosis up to the surface. Rosemary is definitely nothing new within the hair community as far as benefits and stuff but he also mentioned mixing dmso with it which is ONE of the most if not THE MOST powerful carriers there is. But like I said imma go more into depth about dmso in a bit. So after hearing this about rosemary I did my research and sure enough PURE (emphasis on pure) rosemary oil contains many different acids and the acids it contains can indeed reverse fibrosis! These acids are anti oxidative! Carnosic acid: A major phenolic diterpene that acts as a strong antioxidant, protecting cells from oxidative stress.Rosmarinic acid: A hydroxycinnamic acid that provides potent anti-inflammatory effects.Ursolic acid: A triterpene acid known for its strong anti-inflammatory properties.Caffeic acid: A polyphenolic compound that acts as an antioxidant.Betulinic acid & Oleanolic acid: Triterpenes found in the leaf extract.Other organic acids: Including chlorogenic acid and ferulic acid. So with that being said this is why I choose Pure Rosemary, this is why it worked for Law @Ĺawton I'm willing to bet on that & this specific brand ( which is the same one Law uses )

2: DMSO
This is just as important as the rosemary oil! Without a Carrier like this I don't think the acids pure rosemary contains will activate/super charge it! Obviously rosemary has been around longer than we were born and has been brought up time and time again about it being not only good for hair but can be used to treat androgenetic alopecia but as we know most guys who are dealing with this phenomenon don't get any regrowth but I believe there's 2 reasons for that. ONE most likely the rosemary wasn't pure or cold presses. TWO if it was pure and they used it they didn't have a powerful carrier like dmso to super charge the rosemary and active it's acids compounded within it. Without a carrier like this i dont think itll work especially if your a man dealing with androgenic alopecia wether that be balding, recceding hairline etc! And I do want to give a disclaimer *DMSO DRAGS LITERALLY ANYTHING THAT ARE CONTAMINATES INTO YOUR BLOOD STREAM PLEASE BE SURE TO MAKE SURE YOUR SCALP IS CLEAN OF ANYTHING LIKE GELS, GREASES, DIRT ETC BEFORE USING THIS DONT USE ANY PLASTICS TO MIX IT BECAUSE THE DMSO WILL DEGRADE*

3: Glass Amber Bottles
Keeps the compounds from losing its potency! *The mix has to be stored in glass bottles!*

4: 100 mL Laboratory Luer glass tip syringe
For accurate measuring! *Again has to be glass not plastic!*

So I'm going to do a pretty aggressive mix 50 mL dmso 50 mL Pure Rosemary (Edit as of may 7 2026 because of many suggestions ill be doing a does of 20 percent rosemary and 80 percent rosemary!) Than imma mix it up! Do a small patch test to see what sort of reaction I can expect and go from there!

My routine as of now though guys is nothing. I mean I spray my scalp with Magnesium oil here and there but that's it. I'm not on any 5ar/dht inhibitors (never will be again - last year I took dutasteride for 3 months I didn't get sexual side affects at all [in fact it got higher my drive is already naturally high but it TIMES 10'D it] but my side affects was on the neurological side. Short term memory/brain fog and the stero typical " female cry about anything" emotional side effect not depression or su*cdal thoughts but being moved to tears, and of course I my beard I'm trying to grow out got kinda thin.) My next purchase will probably be Pure Avocado oil sense it has both oliec acid and the palm-acid and or hijama cupping set along with some other things I'm thinking about to get my corners and temples where they need to be!

overall I'm excited to get the ball rolling and lock back in with not only restoring my hairline but also guarding the existing hair as well! Beyond just my own hair imma continue researching androgenetic alopecia!

 

[losingbattle88]

Here is where I get confused. (Destroys hair folicles leaving them with scar tissue) Irreversibility: Once follicles are replaced by fibrous tissue (scarring), hair cannot grow back. I got zero symptoms of scalp fibrosis at least. https://betterscalpcompany.com/blog...6R14YWVGO9CsAAY1RMs0hVSMWZcZSAQXf08GN4VBSw3Rv

 

[losingbattle88]

Dmso acts as an anti-inflammatory. But alcohol is the opposite it causes inflammation which will lead to further fibrosis. Thats why it would be wise to not apply the alcohol daily. Will use it rarely. The reddit guy got results by using alcohol but eventually it will cause scalp inflammation if used too often. But how does minoxidill regrow hair when people apply it twice a day on the scalp. It contains alcohol/pg. Eventually that will cause scalp inflammation and higher risk of developing fibrosis hi hi hi hi hi.

 

[losingbattle88]

I would like to give yall a update of my own as well!

So as it stands now it's official everything that I'm gonna be using to purge The Second Head build up has been ordered amd is on the way! Big shouts out to Law/Best, and AQBS!

Here's pictures of everything I ordered.

1: Pure Rosemary Oil
I saw a comment that Law made and read his post on here about his experience with it! He said after the third time of applying it (in combination with dmso, will touch on that later) it basically gave a crazy vasodilation / purging sensation and it basically brought the hardened fibrosis up to the surface. Rosemary is definitely nothing new within the hair community as far as benefits and stuff but he also mentioned mixing dmso with it which is ONE of the most if not THE MOST powerful carriers there is. But like I said imma go more into depth about dmso in a bit. So after hearing this about rosemary I did my research and sure enough PURE (emphasis on pure) rosemary oil contains many different acids and the acids it contains can indeed reverse fibrosis! These acids are anti oxidative! Carnosic acid: A major phenolic diterpene that acts as a strong antioxidant, protecting cells from oxidative stress.Rosmarinic acid: A hydroxycinnamic acid that provides potent anti-inflammatory effects.Ursolic acid: A triterpene acid known for its strong anti-inflammatory properties.Caffeic acid: A polyphenolic compound that acts as an antioxidant.Betulinic acid & Oleanolic acid: Triterpenes found in the leaf extract.Other organic acids: Including chlorogenic acid and ferulic acid. So with that being said this is why I choose Pure Rosemary, this is why it worked for Law @Ĺawton I'm willing to bet on that & this specific brand ( which is the same one Law uses )

2: DMSO
This is just as important as the rosemary oil! Without a Carrier like this I don't think the acids pure rosemary contains will activate/super charge it! Obviously rosemary has been around longer than we were born and has been brought up time and time again about it being not only good for hair but can be used to treat androgenetic alopecia but as we know most guys who are dealing with this phenomenon don't get any regrowth but I believe there's 2 reasons for that. ONE most likely the rosemary wasn't pure or cold presses. TWO if it was pure and they used it they didn't have a powerful carrier like dmso to super charge the rosemary and active it's acids compounded within it. Without a carrier like this i dont think itll work especially if your a man dealing with androgenic alopecia wether that be balding, recceding hairline etc! And I do want to give a disclaimer *DMSO DRAGS LITERALLY ANYTHING THAT ARE CONTAMINATES INTO YOUR BLOOD STREAM PLEASE BE SURE TO MAKE SURE YOUR SCALP IS CLEAN OF ANYTHING LIKE GELS, GREASES, DIRT ETC BEFORE USING THIS DONT USE ANY PLASTICS TO MIX IT BECAUSE THE DMSO WILL DEGRADE*

3: Glass Amber Bottles
Keeps the compounds from losing its potency! *The mix has to be stored in glass bottles!*

4: 100 mL Laboratory Luer glass tip syringe
For accurate measuring! *Again has to be glass not plastic!*

So I'm going to do a pretty aggressive mix 50 mL dmso 50 mL Pure Rosemary! Than imma mix it up! Do a small patch test to see what sort of reaction I can expect and go from there!

My routine as of now though guys is nothing. I mean I spray my scalp with Magnesium oil here and there but that's it. I'm not on any 5ar/dht inhibitors (never will be again - last year I took dutasteride for 3 months I didn't get sexual side affects at all [in fact it got higher my drive is already naturally high but it TIMES 10'D it] but my side affects was on the neurological side. Short term memory/brain fog and the stero typical " female cry about anything" emotional side effect not depression or su*cdal thoughts but being moved to tears, and of course I my beard I'm trying to grow out got kinda thin.) My next purchase will probably be Pure Avocado oil sense it has both oliec acid and the palm-acid and or hijama cupping set along with some other things I'm thinking about to get my corners and temples where they need to be!

overall I'm excited to get the ball rolling and lock back in with not only restoring my hairline but also guarding the existing hair as well! Beyond just my own hair imma continue researching androgenetic alopecia!

Have you tried finasteride? dutasteride is worse for brain fog and mental sh*t because it blocks both types of dht. Type 1 and 2. finasteride only blocks type 2. Type 1 is in the brain. I have tried both drugs and I get only sexuall sides never any mental sides at least.

 

[strictly4myhair]

Have you tried finasteride? dutasteride is worse for brain fog and mental sh*t because it blocks both types of dht. Type 1 and 2. finasteride only blocks type 2. Type 1 is in the brain. I have tried both drugs and I get only sexuall sides never any mental sides at least.

I haven't tried finasteride and most likely never will I feel like if that dutasteride had me feeling Sped - finasteride would probably do the same thing

 

[losingbattle88]

I haven't tried finasteride and most likely never will I feel like if that dutasteride had me feeling Sped - finasteride would probably do the same thing

Yep possibly. Some do get mental sides from finasteride too. I get the exact same sexuall sides from dutasteride and finasteride. No mental. So you would probably get mental from finasteride aswell.

 

[strictly4myhair]

Yep possibly. Some do get mental sides from finasteride too. I get the exact same sexuall sides from dutasteride and finasteride. No mental. So you would probably get mental from finasteride aswell.

The farthest I would go is probably is the topical route.

 

[DemodexMitesExterminator]

The farthest I would go is probably is the topical route.

U could try that sure but topical also goes systemic to an extent studies prove this. I myself used 0.25mg once a day in 4ml of minoxidil and eventually had to stop when the sexuall sides got too severe. So now I use oral instead and will try to live with the sides. Started taking DIM with it too.

 

[strictly4myhair]

U could try that sure but topical also goes systemic to an extent studies prove this. I myself used 0.25mg once a day in 4ml of minoxidil and eventually had to stop when the sexuall sides got too severe. So now I use oral instead and will try to live with the sides. Started taking DIM with it too.

Damn it, no dht blockers topically or orally for me than smh

 

[losingbattle88]

The thing that annoys me abit is that you guys dont follow what the study used which was pure oleic acid +alcohol. NOT avocado oil+DMSO. The reddit guy with results followed the study and did not replace or change anything like you guys are doing. I at least use what the study used. Your way may work too but it will confuse the readers of what to use. Follow the study or follow lawton lol.

 

[Ĺawton]

Here is where I get confused. (Destroys hair folicles leaving them with scar tissue) Irreversibility: Once follicles are replaced by fibrous tissue (scarring), hair cannot grow back. I got zero symptoms of scalp fibrosis at least. https://betterscalpcompany.com/blog...6R14YWVGO9CsAAY1RMs0hVSMWZcZSAQXf08GN4VBSw3Rv

Here is what I will say on that from my results so far. A follicle can be saved (in my case) anyway at least as far back as the hair not breaching the surface at all for 5 years. I do have the small originating area that has been smooth over 10 years and that is the only area there is no regrowth at all. So that 2 year no visible hair stuff is BS they sometimes put out there. That old man story regrowing his hair after burning coals lit him up had me thinking these fatty acids might could coax stem cells to create a new follicle but I guess they cant go quite that far. That old mans body must have did that because all new skin was created coaxing a new follicle to be formed and he really lucked out that mostly scar tissue didnt form instead.

 

[Ĺawton]

The thing that annoys me abit is that you guys dont follow what the study used which was pure oleic acid +alcohol. NOT avocado oil+DMSO. The reddit guy with results followed the study and did not replace or change anything like you guys are doing. I at least use what the study used. Your way may work too but it will confuse the readers of what to use. Follow the study or follow lawton lol.

Because its simpler and DMSO makes sure that receptor at the stem cells is totally saturated with the fatty acids. I wanted to make sure it was getting a bunch of it. Limits me to only using it every other day mostly though.

 

[Ĺawton]

12 week progress. Crappy picture (sucky phone and I suck with pictures) but that is a closer up picture of that real bald area from before. Oxidation from the ascorbic acid use previously is mostly gone now also. Its definitely saving some follicles where there was no visible hair about 5 years ago. I will be happy with this about 6 weeks from now probably. Just dont want a really bad balding area there. I am going to start applying this only once a week now to see if that is enough to keep the hairs growing. I think being 12 weeks it has already saved any shrunken follicle that it can.

 

[strictly4myhair]

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12 week progress. Crappy picture (sucky phone and I suck with pictures) but that is a closer up picture of that real bald area from before. Oxidation from the ascorbic acid use previously is mostly gone now also. Its definitely saving some follicles where there was no visible hair about 5 years ago. I will be happy with this about 6 weeks from now probably. Just dont want a really bad balding area there. I am going to start applying this only once a week now to see if that is enough to keep the hairs growing. I think being 12 weeks it has already saved any shrunken follicle that it can.

WTF

 

[strictly4myhair]

I would like to give yall a update of my own as well!

So as it stands now it's official everything that I'm gonna be using to purge The Second Head build up has been ordered amd is on the way! Big shouts out to Law/Best, and AQBS!

Here's pictures of everything I ordered.

1: Pure Rosemary Oil
I saw a comment that Law made and read his post on here about his experience with it! He said after the third time of applying it (in combination with dmso, will touch on that later) it basically gave a crazy vasodilation / purging sensation and it basically brought the hardened fibrosis up to the surface. Rosemary is definitely nothing new within the hair community as far as benefits and stuff but he also mentioned mixing dmso with it which is ONE of the most if not THE MOST powerful carriers there is. But like I said imma go more into depth about dmso in a bit. So after hearing this about rosemary I did my research and sure enough PURE (emphasis on pure) rosemary oil contains many different acids and the acids it contains can indeed reverse fibrosis! These acids are anti oxidative! Carnosic acid: A major phenolic diterpene that acts as a strong antioxidant, protecting cells from oxidative stress.Rosmarinic acid: A hydroxycinnamic acid that provides potent anti-inflammatory effects.Ursolic acid: A triterpene acid known for its strong anti-inflammatory properties.Caffeic acid: A polyphenolic compound that acts as an antioxidant.Betulinic acid & Oleanolic acid: Triterpenes found in the leaf extract.Other organic acids: Including chlorogenic acid and ferulic acid. So with that being said this is why I choose Pure Rosemary, this is why it worked for Law @Ĺawton I'm willing to bet on that & this specific brand ( which is the same one Law uses )

2: DMSO
This is just as important as the rosemary oil! Without a Carrier like this I don't think the acids pure rosemary contains will activate/super charge it! Obviously rosemary has been around longer than we were born and has been brought up time and time again about it being not only good for hair but can be used to treat androgenetic alopecia but as we know most guys who are dealing with this phenomenon don't get any regrowth but I believe there's 2 reasons for that. ONE most likely the rosemary wasn't pure or cold presses. TWO if it was pure and they used it they didn't have a powerful carrier like dmso to super charge the rosemary and active it's acids compounded within it. Without a carrier like this i dont think itll work especially if your a man dealing with androgenic alopecia wether that be balding, recceding hairline etc! And I do want to give a disclaimer *DMSO DRAGS LITERALLY ANYTHING THAT ARE CONTAMINATES INTO YOUR BLOOD STREAM PLEASE BE SURE TO MAKE SURE YOUR SCALP IS CLEAN OF ANYTHING LIKE GELS, GREASES, DIRT ETC BEFORE USING THIS DONT USE ANY PLASTICS TO MIX IT BECAUSE THE DMSO WILL DEGRADE*

3: Glass Amber Bottles
Keeps the compounds from losing its potency! *The mix has to be stored in glass bottles!*

4: 100 mL Laboratory Luer glass tip syringe
For accurate measuring! *Again has to be glass not plastic!*

So I'm going to do a pretty aggressive mix 50 mL dmso 50 mL Pure Rosemary! Than imma mix it up! Do a small patch test to see what sort of reaction I can expect and go from there!

My routine as of now though guys is nothing. I mean I spray my scalp with Magnesium oil here and there but that's it. I'm not on any 5ar/dht inhibitors (never will be again - last year I took dutasteride for 3 months I didn't get sexual side affects at all [in fact it got higher my drive is already naturally high but it TIMES 10'D it] but my side affects was on the neurological side. Short term memory/brain fog and the stero typical " female cry about anything" emotional side effect not depression or su*cdal thoughts but being moved to tears, and of course I my beard I'm trying to grow out got kinda thin.) My next purchase will probably be Pure Avocado oil sense it has both oliec acid and the palm-acid and or hijama cupping set along with some other things I'm thinking about to get my corners and temples where they need to be!

overall I'm excited to get the ball rolling and lock back in with not only restoring my hairline but also guarding the existing hair as well! Beyond just my own hair imma continue researching androgenetic alopecia!

Welp it's official-all my stuff is here!
So here's the deal. This Friday imma wash, blow out, and flat iron / straighten my hair and take pictures of my hairline ( keep in mind I have 4c afro hair & I'm about a Norwood 1.5 / 2 if I pick out my fro and brush the temples and baby hairs forward it looks like I don't have recession but if I straighten my hair we'll be able to see the full extent of how the corners temples and hairline look )

Although the hairline is my only trouble spots imma apply the rosemary dmso mixture throughout my whole head AFTER I PATCH TEST!

On the flip side YO THIS PURE ROSEMARY SMELLS SO GOOOOOODDDDDD OH MY GAWDDDD!

 

[Ĺawton]

Welp it's official-all my stuff is here!
So here's the deal. This Friday imma wash, blow out, and flat iron / straighten my hair and take pictures of my hairline ( keep in mind I have 4c afro hair & I'm about a Norwood 1.5 / 2 if I pick out my fro and brush the temples and baby hairs forward it looks like I don't have recession but if I straighten my hair we'll be able to see the full extent of how the corners temples and hairline look )

Although the hairline is my only trouble spots imma apply the rosemary dmso mixture throughout my whole head AFTER I PATCH TEST!

On the flip side YO THIS PURE ROSEMARY SMELLS SO GOOOOOODDDDDD OH MY GAWDDDD!

I wouldnt go higher than 20% with the Rosemary oil in the mix after reading about it and using it. I think it could be much too harsh at 50% even if it didnt bother you that much doing it. With the amount of fibrosis I had I couldnt imagine if I had applied it 50/50 with DMSO. If you dont want the DMSO over 50% of the mix just mix some water with the DMSO before mixing it with the Rosemary oil.