Finasteride Didn’t Work. Now What? My Hair Took A Big Hit

ElTioLaBota · Oct 14, 2017

IdealForehead said:
I used 5% RU58841 with 5% minoxidil for around a year and had good retention and some vellus regrowth. I then foolishly stopped the minoxidil and cut the dose of RU to around 3.75%. Between those two mistakes, I then lost a bit (few mm recession and deeper thinning) at my corners over the next 6-12 months.

After realizing this one month ago, I cranked up my dose of RU58841 to 7.5% and restarted topical minoxidil and I've already got vellus fuzz back to my NW1 hairline (I'm an NW2 now). The thinned deeper areas have already started filling back in and are looking denser.

In the past week, I added oral spironolactone 100 mg twice daily and minoxidil 5 mg orally twice daily in the as well because I'm in the middle of a major procedure (scalp expander for reduction) and I can't afford to f*** around or "wait and see". I need the maximum back ASAP.

I'm exceedingly happy with the results so far. It's been a short period since I modified my whole process (1 month total for all changes) and even terminal hairs are coming back in my NW1 zone. Don't know how much I'll get back long term, but it's definitely a powerful regimen.

The point is failure on finasteride is just the beginning. There are a lot more steps you can take. I lost 2 years to finasteride & dutasteride before realizing they didn't touch my DHT levels at all and they were worthless to me.

In my opinion, anti-androgens should be tried progressively in the following order:

1) Finasteride
2) Dutasteride
3) RU58841
4) Spironolactone

Something in there (or some combo) should work. Then based on sides, you just have to decide how much your hair is truly worth for you, and what you're willing to give in order to keep it...

Lastly, if you do use RU58841, keep it to 5% or higher. The studies showed a much bigger effect at 5% than 1%, so that is where the majority of the dose-reponse curve takes place. >5% should maximize the effect. I prefer to apply twice daily.

Bud im a nw2 but in the last 30 days i've lost a sht ton of hair (about to hit nw3 pretty hardly), so im planing to get on propecia, since imo the vellus hair will regrow and i'll get back to nw2, if i use minoxidil can i get back to nw1? I was nw1 two years ago or so...

IdealForehead · Oct 14, 2017

ElTioLaBota said:
Bud im a nw2 but in the last 30 days i've lost a sht ton of hair (about to hit nw3 pretty hardly), so im planing to get on propecia, since imo the vellus hair will regrow and i'll get back to nw2, if i use minoxidil can i get back to nw1? I was nw1 two years ago or so...

Absolutely use finasteride and minoxidil. If you've only lost for a brief period you have a high likelihood of getting it back.

Vesemir · Oct 16, 2017

yess said:
From where do you get finasteride if you need a prescription for everything

My dermatologist prescribed it. I'm picking it up at my local pharmacy.

yess · Oct 16, 2017

Vesemir said:
My dermatologist prescribed it. I'm picking it up at my local pharmacy.

Can you help me?is finpecia safe its soo cheap and i am sceptical

Vesemir · Oct 16, 2017

yess said:
Can you help me?is finpecia safe its soo cheap and i am sceptical

Sorry, I can't help you. Maybe visit your doctor and ask for some legit finasteride.

yess · Oct 17, 2017

Vesemir said:
Sorry, I can't help you. Maybe visit your doctor and ask for some legit finasteride.

But she wont prescribe it she thinks its dangerous

Vesemir · Oct 18, 2017

yess said:
But she wont prescribe it she thinks its dangerous

Go to another doctor.

AnxiousAndy · Oct 18, 2017

@Vesemir I know the feels with finasteride man, it done my hair no good and i too lost ground faster, but im still on it lol.. i think you should give oral minoxidil ( Loniten ) a try. You can order 100 pills at 10mg for like 30 euro from ThailandPharmacy!
I did and i am so glad i gave it a shot, the hair that finasteride ate away is growing back and slightly more! Im willing to bet you will have great results, its easier to keep up with than the topical ( obviously )
Dont give up dude, there is salvation and it comes in the form of a cheap generic pill mass produced for peanuts in Thailand.

That last bit was a joke, but seriously man give it a shot. Only thing you have to lose is your hair!

Norwoodcemetary · Oct 19, 2017

AnxiousAndy said:
@Vesemir I know the feels with finasteride man, it done my hair no good and i too lost ground faster, but im still on it lol.. i think you should give oral minoxidil ( Loniten ) a try. You can order 100 pills at 10mg for like 30 euro from ThailandPharmacy!
I did and i am so glad i gave it a shot, the hair that finasteride ate away is growing back and slightly more! Im willing to bet you will have great results, its easier to keep up with than the topical ( obviously )
Dont give up dude, there is salvation and it comes in the form of a cheap generic pill mass produced for peanuts in Thailand.

That last bit was a joke, but seriously man give it a shot. Only thing you have to lose is your hair!

Bro r u taking progress pics on lotinen

Grasshüpfer · Oct 20, 2017

yess said:
From where do you get finasteride if you need a prescription for everything

yess said:
Can you help me?is finpecia safe its soo cheap and i am sceptical

I use Finpecia from Cipla and it works.
Most fina is legit because it is very cheap to manufacture and therefore makes little sense to fake
If you are worried you can check if the batch number on your pill packaging is legit by writing an email to Cipla.

AnxiousAndy · Oct 20, 2017

Norwoodcemetary said:
Bro r u taking progress pics on lotinen

I didnt take baseline pics but i posted a 2 month picture circling whats starting to regrow. If i had baseline finasteride pics my loniten 2 months results would look f*****g terrible in comparison. Ive lost half a norwood in only 11 months

im hopeful it will come back though.
Loniten definitely works, it just slow right now. Probably because im only a month done with the shedding and it has not regrown yet.

yess · Oct 21, 2017

AnxiousAndy said:
I didnt take baseline pics but i posted a 2 month picture circling whats starting to regrow. If i had baseline finasteride pics my loniten 2 months results would look f*****g terrible in comparison. Ive lost half a norwood in only 11 months im hopeful it will come back though.
Loniten definitely works, it just slow right now. Probably because im only a month done with the shedding and it has not regrown yet.

Any side effects?

AnxiousAndy · Oct 21, 2017

yess said:
Any side effects?

None at all

whatevr · Oct 22, 2017

When you fail on finasteride, you either go lunatic way and get on Dutasteride, or IMO, the saner option, to just add RU58841.

No point in going on oral minoxidil. It is just a growth stimulant, unless he achieves maintenance with antiandrogens he will just lose those results eventually anyway.

It makes more long term sense to look into adding topical antiandrogens to your regimen. Start with RU58841.

AnxiousAndy · Oct 22, 2017

whatevr said:
When you fail on finasteride, you either go lunatic way and get on Dutasteride, or IMO, the saner option, to just add RU58841.

No point in going on oral minoxidil. It is just a growth stimulant, unless he achieves maintenance with antiandrogens he will just lose those results eventually anyway.

It makes more long term sense to look into adding topical antiandrogens to your regimen. Start with RU58841.

I would likely end up bald on dutasteride.. Ive given RU58841 some thought but im leaning towards cypocertone as an anti androgen. I know oral min is only a growth stimulant butpeople have been able to maintain for years, some for even decades just with topical, so i hope i may be able to aswell.

ElTioLaBota · Oct 28, 2017

Vesemir said:
My dermatologist prescribed it. I'm picking it up at my local pharmacy.

So, what are tou going to do bro?

yourworld001 · Oct 29, 2017

AnxiousAndy said:
I would likely end up bald on dutasteride.. Ive given RU58841 some thought but im leaning towards cypocertone as an anti androgen. I know oral min is only a growth stimulant butpeople have been able to maintain for years, some for even decades just with topical, so i hope i may be able to aswell.

What are you going to doing when you 50/60 on oral minoxidil, Heart attack guaranteed.

Vesemir · Oct 29, 2017

ElTioLaBota said:
So, what are tou going to do bro?

I dropped finasteride. Currently feeling better, even though I expected I was going to be extra paranoid. No change in hairs lost daily.

FutureSaitama · Oct 29, 2017

Vesemir said:
I dropped finasteride. Currently feeling better, even though I expected I was going to be extra paranoid. No change in hairs lost daily.

So you're on nothing at the moment ? Did you get lower or higher libido on finasteride ? You may be a case of reflex hyperandrogenicity.

ElTioLaBota · Oct 29, 2017

Vesemir said:
I dropped finasteride. Currently feeling better, even though I expected I was going to be extra paranoid. No change in hairs lost daily.

And do you have plans to start any other treatment for your hairloss or not?

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