Finasteride has destroyed my life

Ende

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No, it shouldn't affect your testosterone level like that. Testosterone is stable around a specific level, following a wave pattern, which is highest in the morning and lowest in the evening.
 

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It's a good idea. ;) It would probably accelerate the process.
 

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Haha, honestly I don't know :p I guess you'll get the maximum effect sooner... they recommend 5 - 7 days as a loading phase with 25g a day. The maintenance phase is 5g a day. I don't think they've much to earn by being dishonest ;)

Have a good night :p
 

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monty1978 said:
I can't bloody sleep.

Well I would start training now but I just can't focus yet. I've got serious surgery coming up in April ish so I wanna wait for that. When I start though believe me I will go at it with every fibre of my being. Surgery and my low test is kinda consuming all my mental energy right now, that and working on ways to make money through winter. I am a self employed gardener, winter isn't a good time.

Couple of questions?

I have kind of been testing my sensitivity in that area and as you know using zinc and trying proviron and other supps and at the time I took my hormone levels I had masterbated myself into oblivion. I am sure I have low test cos I have little motivation and such but do you think all this monkey spanking prior to taking bloods could have exacerbated a low test result? or does it make no difference. I haven't really had more than a whole day of for a long time always hoping that the flood will return. Its become a bit of test practice these days more than a desire to actually do it.


Well, it's been documented that men's testosterone levels noticably drop after orgasm. Many guys with PFS swear that they masturbated into decline when their body was vunerable, but who knows?

As for creatine, the loading up makes alot of sense/
 

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Mew said:
Mew for instance, is slowly getting better over the past 5/6 years. He can have normal sex and his brain fog etc has went away.

Not exactly true. Here is my last update:

http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewt ... 377#p18377

http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewt ... 870#p29870


Oh, apologies. I was perhaps liberal with the word "normal". Glad you seem to be recovering at some rate. Im sure you'll agree with me that time appears to be the most consistent recovery story.
 

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Im sorry to hear that you guuys are having adverse affects from this drug. I really do hope that you guys get a full recovery. Im glad i did not take finasteride. Thankfully to this forum, i done resarch and realised that by taking this treatment i could end up taking treatments for other problems as a result of taking this drug including ED. I really believe that users are not made aware of the dangers of this drug and think that something should be done about this.
 

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Hey guys,

Just dropping in to give an update.

I ran a weeks course of Proviron about a month and a half ago back and I felt pretty good on it but all the benefits went away, and I'm not sure but it may have made me a little worse because I can't even manage sex once in a day now.

I am currently taking transdermal life flo pregnenolone, 2-3 pumps in the morning to see what this gives me.

Overall - I am worse a year off this drug than when I first came off, sexually that is. Because to be fair, my sleep, my personality, everything about me was a mess when I first quit.

For any of you that haven't been ruined by this drug already and are just down about hair loss. Consider the fact that I am 20, Norwood 4, diffusing into Norwood-6 and I shave my head to the bone. Yet I moved to London this year, started at a brilliant university and hold down a great relationship with a very attractive girl. Things can always be worse, so forget the hair.
 

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Good man Joe.

Keep us updated about the preg. You may need to combine it with T3.

Same as me, i was better back in March than i am now, too.

Proviron will have given you the initial boost as you raised DHT levels etc but via negative feedback mechanism this soon normalised again. This is why, time after time, after a few weeks, these pills become useless to PFS patients.

I have never seen your bloods but if your estrogen is v.high then arimidex/aromasin would maybe be necessary.
 

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I had bloods ages ago near the time I came off but the doctor never gave them to me, he was a useless twat. I am waiting until my exams/ other work end at University and then I am going to try and get a referral to Dr Skinner or see Peatfield or something.
 

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I really need to get some good bloods, at least to find out whether my thyroid, testosterone or estrogen may be the problem.
 

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Joe-1991 said:
I really need to get some good bloods, at least to find out whether my thyroid, testosterone or estrogen may be the problem.

Yes, you cant face tihs thing blind.

Some doctors are annoying. Clueless isnt the word

They take these broad ranges as gospel when they are antiquated and derived from huge sample groups which include old men etc. Young pups like us for instance should have top quartile testosterone levels. Most docs fail to interpret even these patently basic things.
 

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Well, it seems that the fantastic effects of pregnenolone also have waned, and yesterday/ last night was terrible for me..

I don't know what to do next? I will have a lot of time off university, but with little money - I am thinking about trying dostinex and tamoxifen.
 

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I recommend doing some research on low dose treatment with Clomid instead of Nolvadex. Personally, I would use hCG or hMG to stimulate the testosterone production.
 

Joe-1991

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Officially past the year mark now. In many ways I am worse now than before.
 

Joe-1991

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You from the UK?

It is good to hear from someone else at the same age, going through the ride of embracing there baldness and suffering from these damn side effects!

I did some browsing today, looking at general ED in young guys, diabetics, thyroid issues and so on.. I try to think that even guys who haven't taken the poison end up with ED and it's not THAT uncommon.
 

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16 months off and getting worse. It looks as if this is permanent.
 

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Joe, can you get erections at all, does it tend to be with a girl that things dont work...can you masturbate by yourself...do you have any sex drive, do you ever get any morning wood?

How does this compare with everything I just asked immediately prior to taking finasteride?
 

Joe-1991

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. No morning erections, ever.

. I can get it up, but it's not the same - the brain to penis connection has gone. I have a bit more luck with a girl than masturbating i guess.

. I produce barely any semen and it's like water

Before finasteride i was probably close to a sex addict. If i had a girl round i would usually stay in and go 6-8 rounds in a day/ evening. I can't remember even a single day where i didn't get a morning erection that i had to piss away before finasteride.

For the record, while i was on finasteride i lost daily morning erections and only had them a few times a week. Erections were slightly affected but never to the point where it bothered me or i classed it as 'erectile dysfunction'.

If you are interested - visit propeciahelp and you will see how it works. Guys come off the drug, crash and that's when the real horror story begins.
 
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