Finasteride induced gynecomastia

Ende

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I've experienced this myself, but would like to hear other stories as well, as I've seen some cases where gyno appears to be the only side effect the user is experiencing. I already had erectile dysfunction when it got to this point, and I'm now wondering if maybe prolactin plays a bigger role than estrogen when it comes to ED, although estrogen and prolactin are related, and taking care of estrogen solves the issue with prolactin.
 

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I have been taking only 0.5 mg for the last two months. Now I feel I am developing gynecomastia. I can't be sure if its finasteride induced or not because in the last month I also put on some 8-10 pounds of fat as well. All this has happened in the last month. There is no such noticeable change as of now, only a little extra fat that I can tell, in the right side only. No sensitivity too. The areola seems softer on the right side as compared to the left & sometimes larger. Sorry if that is too much information. :whistle:

How can I tell if its just fat or if I am really developing glands inside?! That'd be scary.
 

Ende

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Believe me, you'll know for sure if you're developing gynecomastia. It's very painful when it begins to grow, and you'll feel lumps all over the chest around the nipples.
 

MrBastard

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Woot? :shock: I always belived that it was just exstra fat in that region, but it actually grow real boobs? Scary...
 

Ende

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I never got THAT far, so I don't know if that's the end result. I mean, I like tits, but don't want a pair myself. :p Puffy nipples are usually an early sign, and by time, lumps may begin to grow all over the place, and it hurts like hell. I took care of it before it advanced further.
 

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Enden said:
Believe me, you'll know for sure if you're developing gynecomastia. It's very painful when it begins to grow, and you'll feel lumps all over the chest around the nipples.

Pain occurs in all cases? In my case, there is no pain or sensitivity. Just a minor change in appearance i.e. some extra fat & sometimes the aerola appears slightly bigger & softer.

I tried to examine my chest around the nipple & I didn't find any lumps as such but on digging deeper (literally) I found some tissues or fibres or whatever they are. Felt like big nerves or tissues some 2-3 cms in width, not circular but straight pipe like things. Is that muscle tissue? This is in the right side & I am right handed, if that has something to do with extra tissues in the right side.

I never got THAT far, so I don't know if that's the end result. I mean, I like tits, but don't want a pair myself. :p Puffy nipples are usually an early sign, and by time, lumps may begin to grow all over the place, and it hurts like hell. I took care of it before it advanced further.

Can you tell me how puffy nipples look like? Are they extra sensitive too?
 

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I believe pain is inevitable when growing breasts, yes. Just ask the girls. I'm not a doctor, so I can't tell you what you're feeling in your chest, but I would say it's nothing to worry about as long as you don't have any pain and lumps. Puffy nipples are soft and more defined than usual. I don't remeber if they're more sensitive.

Btw, I recommend using some zink daily. It inhibits conversion of testosterone to estrogen, and might help with your puffy nipple.
 

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Enden said:
I believe pain is inevitable when growing breasts, yes. Just ask the girls. I'm not a doctor, so I can't tell you what you're feeling in your chest, but I would say it's nothing to worry about as long as you don't have any pain and lumps. Puffy nipples are soft and more defined than usual. I don't remeber if they're more sensitive.

Thanks. I checked up puffy nipples on the net, and after wading my way through some very nice pics of real boobs, I saw what puffy nipples look like in men. Not a pleasant sight that. :shakehead:

Good news is that I don't have puffy nipples right now. No pain & no sensitivity. So this is most probably pseudogynecomastia. I will continue finasteride for the moment, and lets see if there's any further change. I hope not!
 

Ende

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You'll be fine. Gynecomastia is easy to counter. Take a look at my thread with information if you're worried about side effects.
 

dougfunny

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Enden said:
You'll be fine. Gynecomastia is easy to counter. Take a look at my thread with information if you're worried about side effects.

It aint that easy to counter. I still have some good sized lumps on the left side of my chest.
 

Ende

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Have you tried Andractim? It's available through allsaintsclinic.org. Slow shipping, but they're legit. It's important to get rid of the lumps as fast as possible, so they don't get permanent.

Btw doug, how about your story? Have you experienced any other side effects?
 

dougfunny

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Enden said:
Have you tried Andractim? It's available through allsaintsclinic.org. Slow shipping, but they're legit. It's important to get rid of the lumps as fast as possible, so they don't get permanent.

Btw doug, how about your story? Have you experienced any other side effects?

What is that? Testosterone gel?

Ordering that online could get you sent to jail.


As for other side effects, I noticed decreased ejaculate and softer erections. Needless to say I do not take finasteride any more.
 

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No, testosterone gel would only do the problem worse. It's androstanolone gel, also known as DHT. There are ways to order and import without leaving trace, but of course, everything depends on how you see it. You risk permanent gynecomastia because doctors will not give you the right treatment. I say f*** that.

Btw, are you using dutasteride?
 

dougfunny

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Enden said:
No, testosterone gel would only do the problem worse. It's androstanolone gel, also known as DHT. There are ways to order and import without leaving trace, but of course, everything depends on how you see it. You risk permanent gynecomastia because doctors will not give you the right treatment. I say f*ck that.

Btw, are you using dutasteride?

The right treatment being some totally unproven idea a few body builders came up with over the internet?
 

Hairforever

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But Andractim is a gel that puts extra DHT into your body (in this case via your chest). So surely this extra DHT will cause even more hair to fall out?
 

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Possibly, yes. If you use more than needed for the receptors to be saturated, then it'll move through your body. Anyway, if you get lumps, you've no choice in my opinion. We're just talking about a week of treatment or so. I don't think it would harm your hair, if used with care.

I used it extensively earlier this year for another reason. 2.5 g every day for 1 1/2 month, and I didn't experience increased hair loss. Excessive amounts of testosterone is another story, even though it's 3 times weaker than DHT. I guess that adds up, when your T level is 3 times as high as normal.
 

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Enden said:
Possibly, yes. If you use more than needed for the receptors to be saturated, then it'll move through your body. Anyway, if you get lumps, you've no choice in my opinion. We're just talking about a week of treatment or so. I don't think it would harm your hair, if used with care.

I used it extensively earlier this year for another reason. 2.5 g every day for 1 1/2 month, and I didn't experience increased hair loss. Excessive amounts of testosterone is another story, even though it's 3 times weaker than DHT. I guess that adds up, when your T level is 3 times as high as normal.


You do realize you are playing with your HPTA by adding testosterone (DHT ) cream correct, posssbly shutting it down

Nolvadex is what you want for early signs of real ( not fatty) GYno.


One of my issies with the people who get sides from Propecia is how they self medicate themselves and think there is no possible connection between using powerfull drugs and the issues they have, it's amazing
 

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Oh, you shut up. Propecia single handedly wrecked my body in 4 months. I was 6 months off the drug without getting any better. Your HPTA is already screwed when you develop secondary hypogonadism, although it's possible to recover it with the right treatment, it's difficult and dangerous if you don't know what you're doing. It's much safer to supress it with TRT, which by the way is reversible. While it's usually true what you say about steroids like androstanolone possibly shutting down your own testosterone production, it's not relevant when you're using finasteride and are suffering from side effects due to elevated estrogen level. You've DHT deficiency if this happens, and elevated estrogen level is way more dangerous, as it supresses LH and testosterone, which in the end leads to secondary hypogonadism if untreated.

Tamoxifen?? Nolvadex only blocks the estrogen receptors, and doesn't take care of the actual problem, as Arimidex does. What do you think will happen if you use nolva when your body is converting alot of testosterone to estrogen? It will accumulate and make it worse. Body builders who are using this for PCT also reports loss of libido while using it, and it is known to clot your blood.

And I tell you what's f*****g amazing. No doctors believed me when I sought help for propecia side effects. Noone would help me. I took care of it myself, and have almost recovered.
 

Hairforever

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I didn't have 'real' gyno, I had fatty gyno but it was caused by the propecia. It was real enough to me, I had lipo to get rid of it. My doctor was hopeless, I had to see an endocrinologist to sort the problem.
 
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