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From the proscar finasteride package information for users leaflet:

"If you partner is pregnant or planning to become pregnant you should use a condom or other barrier method of contraception when taking proscar. This is because your semen could contain a tiny amount of the drug and may affect the normal development of the baby's sex organs."


This is news to me after 3 years of using finasteride. I know of the dangers of women handling tabs but this is insane.

It's not worth it folks.
 
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Hmmm, I'll check my leaflet because I have been on finasteride (Generic Teva that I quarter) for years and conceived 3 children that are perfectly normal. I have read the leaflet and saw that women should not handle any broken or crushed tablets but not what you are saying.

Thanks for the info and I'll look into it.
 
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Actually that is not true bro. I even went to their website and here is what it says...

A warning about PROSCAR and pregnancy:
Women who are or may potentially be pregnant must not use PROSCAR. They should also not handle
crushed or broken tablets of PROSCAR. PROSCAR tablets are coated and will prevent contact with the
active ingredient during normal handling, provided that the tablets are not broken or crushed.
If a woman who is pregnant with a male baby absorbs the active ingredient in PROSCAR after oral use or
through the skin, it may cause the male baby to be born with abnormalities of the sex organs. If a woman
who is pregnant comes into contact with the active ingredient in PROSCAR, a doctor should be
consulted.
 
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Not once does it state anything about using a condom or anything else you stated. This is from the PROSCAR website and even with my Generic it says the same.
 
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No, it's true. I just checked the leaflet which came with my proscar. I've heard this is an issue with avodart (dutasteride), but not finasteride. It must be due to the amount of the drug, because it certainly wasn't stated in the propecia leaflet. It's two years since I read the leaflet, so I don't know if it they've updated the information. This is important. Someone should contact merck, to get this clear.
 
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I agree!! It may very well depend on the dose and I thought of that too. If you go to Proscar's website though it states what I posted. I got that from there today and also my leaflet in my generic Proscar (Teva) states that too. It is a good idea to contact their site though and ask to clarify as I would damn sure like to know what the real deal is. I sent them an email and when they reply I will post it here ASAP.
 
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I would be surprised if your semen contains trace elements of the drug.

If it does, it's related to there being 5 mg in proscar, as opposed to the 1-ish mg in propecia.

Also, I doubt it would make any difference due to the half life of finasteride. The baby is not developing testosterone and sex organs the first two or three days after conception, finasteride will have disappeared long before it has any effect on the baby.
 
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TheGrayMan2001, they are your own personal opinions with no references for any of your points to back them up. To be frank, that reads as a "shill" post. However the 5mg versus 1mg may be true - if there was a doctor to veify this it would be most helpful. Perhaps it is worth a post to baldingblog...

The leaflet comes with the proscar medication made by Merk Sharp and Dohme, Shotton Lane, Northumberland, NE23 3JU, England. Why would they print it if it was not true.

Also, PropeciaJunkie, did you have any Boys?
 
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No I do not have any boys, all 3 happy healthy girls. I know what you may be getting at but out of all the kids born in my family (and there are alot) there are only 2 boys and no one else in my family uses Finasteride. We always joke that we don't make boys. I do get your point though.

I think the question is worthy of looking into for sure. Maybe the question could be posed to Dr. Rassman? It just baffles me that my leaflet states exactly what Proscar's website states and not anything about a condom. Trust me if it did say that I would not have used it while we were trying to conceive our daughters. My hair is not worth the risk of birth defects and my Wife and I even asked our Doctor about this very question and they stated it would not matter as long as my Wife did not touch any broken or crushed pills and also showed me the litterature to back it up.
 
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lordmud said:
TheGrayMan2001, they are your own personal opinions with no references for any of your points to back them up. To be frank, that reads as a "shill" post. However the 5mg versus 1mg may be true - if there was a doctor to veify this it would be most helpful. Perhaps it is worth a post to baldingblog...

The leaflet comes with the proscar medication made by Merk Sharp and Dohme, Shotton Lane, Northumberland, NE23 3JU, England. Why would they print it if it was not true.

Also, PropeciaJunkie, did you have any Boys?
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Yeah, sorry, I take Fincar and if you read my posts only recently started taking it.

Stop wanting to hate on finasteride when we're trying to have an intelligent discourse on it. I offered a plausible explanation.
 
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Cassin said:
You are confusing with taking 5mg of a drug in proscar versus 1mg in propecia.

Totally different amounts.
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I agree Cassin but I use the 5mg Teva and the leaflet does not say anything about using a condom nor does Proscar's website and the original poster states his does. The thing we are confused about is why does one leaflet state that it can be passed through semen and the other does not when it is all 5mg of Finasteride and the warnings should all be the same because it is standardized through the FDA. Just like generic minoxidil and Rogaine's warnings read word for word, so should all 5mg Finasteride whether it is generic or name brand.
 
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Never heard of this one before.I know a guy who has been on finasteride for 11 years and he has a perfectly healthy son.
 
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Foetus is extremely sensitive to hormones.

The big news about thermal paper receipts containing monomer bisfenol-a was just last month in news.

Now here in Finland young cashier ladies should use gloves as recommended by health authorities.

Extremely small quantities of bisfenol-a or other xenoestrogens are needed to affect male fetus. In animal studies they usually affect genitals.

I can see AR inhibitors having effect also in tiny quantities...
Living laboratory animals we are.
 
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I've checked the latest Propecia leaflet, and it's nothing to worry about. It's a concern when using Proscar, and obviously it's because of the amount of drug. However, you should be extremely cautious if you're cutting finasteride pills around women.
 
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Enden said:
I've checked the latest Propecia leaflet, and it's nothing to worry about. It's a concern when using Proscar, and obviously it's because of the amount of drug. However, you should be extremely cautious if you're cutting finasteride pills around women.
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Yeah I checked it as well. It is only a concern when using 5mg of finasteride but still I had no idea that was the case though. Thanks for linking to that.
 
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