Follica Microneedling Protocol Patent Disclosed

[Poppyburner]

[...] why would hair die when there's no more damage being done? Something is weird about new hairs grown with minoxidil.

Perhaps it functions as a temporary dilatant for critical constrictions, in/around the follicle.

 

[StayPositive]

Either those, PGE2, or estrogen.

What do you think about calcipotriol?

 

[barfacan]

Interesting observation: After several sessions it feels as though my scalp is much less sensitive to the pain of needling, at first .5mm on naked scalp felt like hell, now i barely feel it. All else being equal.

 

[Tom4362]

Are there any signs yet that the follica based protocol works better than 'normal' needling?

 

[Photon]

It's a lot less painful for me to do the Follica protocol than 2.5mm biweekly, so there's that. I have not noticed any improvement though .

 

[John Difool]

I wonder how long the treatment can last and still bring benefits. There must be an upper bound.

 

[Haironnu]

Is there any point to follica if I don't want to apply minoxidil/finasteride on my scalp?

 

[John Difool]

Is there any point to follica if I don't want to apply minoxidil/finasteride on my scalp?

Are you balding? If the answer is yes, then Fina & minoxidil are pretty much a given. Wounding is one more weapon in your arsenal, it can not be the only one.

 

[Haironnu]

There's probably not much point in thinking about hair loss if you don't want to do that. There are alternatives, but I doubt you would go for those either.

minoxidil is out of the question for me, not risking screwing my face over, finasteride I'm still pondering over, idk where to get topical finasteride anyway, but since it goes systematic then I might as well go for oral finasteride if I'm willing to do topical finasteride

 

[Throwaway94]

I'm a little new to all of this. How would using minoxidil screw your face over?

It wouldn't

 

[tomJ]

It wouldn't

Oh heeeeere we go with the next minoxidil debate.

 

[FCKW36]

Then why did he say that

Because he doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[John Difool]

To each their own. I am a little puzzled that someone would consider wounding alone without following a protocol if the study showed best results with minoxidil. Maybe adding onion juice and apple cider vinegar and taking saw palmetto and biotin for the most risk adverse folks?

 

[Haironnu]

I'm a little new to all of this. How would using minoxidil screw your face over?

they have no idea what they are talking about, there could be side effects to using minoxidil, such has making your face more hairy, aging your skin and also creating black circles around your eyes, minoxidil can deplete the collagen in your skin, it can also bloat your face by water retention.

those people above me who say minoxidil does nothing are the same people who say finasteride can't make any side effects

 

[Spanishboy97]

You know what else ages you a lot? Hair loss.

 

[John Difool]

I never said finasteride didn't have any side effects. Every medication comes with potential side effects.

Ibuprofen side effects:

More common

• Abdominal pain
• acid or sour stomach
• belching
• bloating
• cloudy urine
• decrease in amount of urine
• decrease in urine output or decrease in urine-concentrating ability
• diarrhea
• difficulty having a bowel movement (stool)
• excess air or gas in stomach or intestines
• full feeling
• heartburn
• indigestion
• itching skin
• pain or discomfort in chest, upper stomach, or throat
• pale skin
• passing gas
• nausea
• noisy, rattling breathing
• rash with flat lesions or small raised lesions on the skin
• shortness of breath
• swelling of face, fingers, hands, feet, lower legs, or ankles
• troubled breathing at rest
• troubled breathing with exertion
• unusual bleeding or bruising
• unusual tiredness or weakness
• vomiting
• weight gain

• Abdominal crampsstomach soreness or discomfort

Rare

• Agitation
• back, leg, or stomach pains
• bleeding gums
• blistering, peeling, loosening of skin
• blood in urine or stools
• bloody, black, or tarry stools
• blurred vision
• burning feeling in chest or stomach
• change in vision
• chest pain
• chills
• clay-colored stools
• coma
• confusion
• constipation
• cough or hoarseness
• dark urine
• decreased urine output
• depression
• difficulty breathing
• difficulty swallowing
• dilated neck veins
• dizziness
• dry mouth
• extreme fatigue
• fast, irregular, pounding, or racing heartbeat or pulse
• fever with or without chills
• frequent urination
• general body swelling
• general feeling of tiredness or weakness
• hair loss, thinning of hair
• headache
• hives or welts
• hostility
• impaired vision
• increased blood pressure
• increased volume of pale, dilute urine
• irregular breathing
• irritability
• itching
• joint or muscle pain
• lab results that show problems with liver
• lethargy
• light-colored stools
• loss of appetite
• lower back or side pain
• muscle twitching
• nosebleeds
• painful or difficult urination
• pains in stomach, side, or abdomen, possibly radiating to the back
• pinpoint red spots on skin
• puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes, face, lips, or tongue
• rash
• red skin lesions, often with a purple center
• red, irritated eyes
• redness of skin
• seizures
• severe abdominal pain, cramping, burning
• severe and continuing nausea
• sore throat
• sores, ulcers, or white spots in mouth or on lips
• stiff neck or back
• stomach upset
• stupor
• swollen or painful glands
• tenderness in stomach area
• thirst
• tightness in chest
• unpleasant breath odor
• upper right abdominal pain
• vomiting of blood
• vomiting of material that looks like coffee grounds
• wheezing
• yellow eyes and skin

 

[Haironnu]

@John Difool yes but you know what the difference is? you don't use ibuprofen twice a day every day for years. you use a little bit of it for a short period of time and then you're done with it for the most part.

I personally would have to use minoxidil like a freaking shampoo on my whole scalp because I'm diffused all over. it's not gonna be just a little bit on my temples in my case.

 

[Haironnu]

You know what else ages you a lot? Hair loss.

yeah, but it ages you differently, not gonna risk damaging the skin on my face for temporarily hair gain that will only last me for about 2-3 years.

 

[Haironnu]

That's how most people use it. It's actually not marketed for frontotemporal hair even though it works on it. I understand the reluctance, minoxidil messes up my skin too. I wouldn't use it by itself, but in combination with other treatments it's capable of fully restoring your crown. For that I think it's worth it.

it is known that minoxidil loses its potency after few years of use and stops working as well, for that I don't see how it's worth risking the skin of my face for only a few years of better hair, not to mention having minoxidil on your head daily makes your hair constantly oily and just nasty really.

I probably would never hop on minoxidil, maybe finasteride tho. probably too late for me anyway my diffuse is so advanced that even if I took finasteride and my hair loss stops, my current hair is so bad that taking a drug to keep it the way it is, is probably not worth it.

 

[pegasus2]

it is known that minoxidil loses its potency after few years of use and stops working as well, for that I don't see how it's worth risking the skin of my face for only a few years of better hair, not to mention having minoxidil on your head daily makes your hair constantly oily and just nasty really.

I probably would never hop on minoxidil, maybe finasteride tho. probably too late for me anyway my diffuse is so advanced that even if I took finasteride and my hair loss stops, my current hair is so bad that taking a drug to keep it the way it is, is probably not worth it.

Minoxidil doesn't stop working. After two-three years the minoxidil rescued hairs shed, then they come back as long as you're still on minoxidil. Using minoxidil in combination with AAs and microneedling may allow you to reverse hair loss to a degree that you won't need to keep using minoxidil. It's never too late. Diffuse thinners are the best responders, and can fully recover their diffuse crowns. If people can go from NW7 to nearly NW1 with treatment then you as a diffuse thinner have it relatively easy.