Follica Microneedling Protocol Patent Disclosed

[NorwoodGuardian]

So to mimic the patent, which model of Dr Pen should I buy? Sorry I have no ideas of the pen at all.

 

[Equal Rights]

So to mimic the patent, which model of Dr Pen should I buy? Sorry I have no ideas of the pen at all.

All work tbh, the only real difference is the number of needles per cartridge. People here believe that 12 is the ideal for proper wound impact which is in line with the protocol.

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

All work tbh, the only real difference is the number of needles per cartridge. People here believe that 12 is the ideal for proper wound impact which is in line with the protocol.

In the needling result thread, the successful cases used different model of pens or roller and did needling in different ways. No one was following the patent but still they got regrowth. Really want to know how much difference the patented treatment can make.

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

Hey guys, the official website drpen.com seems not working. Is it reliable to buy from the Amazon random seller?

 

[fauxhawk]

Hey guys, the official website drpen.com seems not working. Is it reliable to buy from the Amazon random seller?

Yeah if its not dirt cheap then it's the proper thing, I've found refunds very easy through Ebay though can't speak for Amazon

 

[fauxhawk]

Wrong.

Many guys who used minoxidil for years but didn't had results, did have results when they added needling. For example number guy, the one who popularized minoxidil/needling here is such a case.

The actual guy who pioneered wounding-2young2retire became active again after many years after he made the threads and never answers questions about his hairloss. Which to me is a bit concerning.

 

[kiwi666]

The actual guy who pioneered wounding-2young2retire became active again after many years after he made the threads and never answers questions about his hairloss. Which to me is a bit concerning.

Don’t worry people have been concerned about that specifically for years. When people grow their hair back they tend to leave.

 

[coolio]

Forgive me for dumping this question here, but . . . . . what's the status of the needling-without-minoxidil results? I haven't looked in a while.

 

[fauxhawk]

He also used fina. But he is only one of the MANY guys who had success with this approach, it's almost every week we get a new success story thanks to minoxidil+needling, check the big thread.

Not questioning the success of needling, just the application of how permanent it is actually

 

[Flamingflaps]

Forgive me for dumping this question here, but . . . . . what's the status of the needling-without-minoxidil results? I haven't looked in a while.

As far as I know, it likely does something. There was a study: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14764172.2017.1376094

I'm trying needling sans minoxidil myself, although I am using stemoxydine. Not confident I'll see any results, but worth a shot.

 

[Nikola237]

Since @Xander94

• Needling device: electric dermaneedling device. They specifically state that dermarollers and dermabrasion devices are less effective. About dermarollers they write that tearing and cut-like wounds are ineffective for neogenesis and that one has to aim for real, "pointy" needle wounds without any tearing or cutting.

I've bought A6 from eBay, and the needles look like they are not completely straight (I'm not sure though). Will it be a problem, can it cause any harm? I've bought several cartridges so far, and needles on all of them look like they are bent a little.

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

Guys, I will begin my first micro needling 2 hours later. If I'm using a 12-needle pen, 8000rpm, I will achieve 1600 wound if I glide at 2cm per second and 2 passes？

 

[Eazy12]

wait so what is the proper protocol

 

[Ralph Wiggum]

Is the plan for Follica to be strictly an in-office procedure? Somehow I got the impression that it would be a few doctor's visits followed by regular self-administered procedures at home but I have no idea where I got that idea.

 

[KNemo]

wait so what is the proper protocol

It's from a patent and haven't changed since page 1. Microneedling at 0.8mm to a maximum of 1mm for haired areas at 1600 wounds/cm^2 every two weeks in combination with Minoxidil treatment.

Considering that Dr. Pen has released bunch of new devices (A7, X5, M8, A6S) which one can you guys advise and specifically which needle cartridges as they seem to offer „nano“ needles now?

I keep recommending the M8 wireless with the standard 16 pin cartridges. Nano needles isn't a new thing but are designed to increase skin penetration of some topicals, not relevant for the wounding we want.

Is the plan for Follica to be strictly an in-office procedure? Somehow I got the impression that it would be a few doctor's visits followed by regular self-administered procedures at home but I have no idea where I got that idea.

The self-administration thing is applying Minoxidil using a proprietary device.

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

It's from a patent and haven't changed since page 1. Microneedling at 0.8mm to a maximum of 1mm for haired areas at 1600 wounds/cm^2 every two weeks in combination with Minoxidil treatment.

I keep recommending the M8 wireless with the standard 16 pin cartridges. Nano needles isn't a new thing but are designed to increase skin penetration of some topicals, not relevant for the wounding we want.

The self-administration thing is applying Minoxidil using a proprietary device.

A7 12 pin nano needles don't hurt me at all. I have done 4 times but never felt hurt. I used dermaroller before and it was much more painful and redness. I am considering switching back to rolling.

 

[John Difool]

I brought up the calibration issue before. I dermarolled on a saran clean wrap roll and counted how many layers got punctured then multiply by the thickness of one layer measured with a digital caliper. The original markers were off by 0.5mm on my D2.

 

[John Difool]

A7 12 pin nano needles don't hurt me at all. I have done 4 times but never felt hurt. I used dermaroller before and it was much more painful and redness. I am considering switching back to rolling.

If the dermaroll is tearing your skin apart that will be more painful but not more effective.

 

[MedicinallyCompetent]

Been reading through the thread. Can someone clarify this for me?

I want to go with the Dr. Pen A7 as it seems this will significantly reduce the time I need to invest per treatment.
I'm to use the 12 pin.
I'm to use a depth probably of 0.75mm (presumably it has this option)
I'm to use the fastest setting.
I'm to do it every two weeks.

At what rate do I want to move the A7 at this setting speed to achieve the goal target?
Thanks.

 

[Jonnyyy]

I understand what the common protocol is, I’ve probably missed it but is this useful at all if you can’t stop the loss at all with propecia due to side effects?