FOLLICEPT - New Growth Stimulant potentially coming in 2015

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If the vehicle is as effective as claimed, the quoted post above is why it will never reach or be pulled from the market in a very short time.

Cuz people just can't help getting excited and pulling the trigger.

what do you mean by this????

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so if im getting this correct..... basically we have an upgrade to both, finasteride/dutasteride and minoxidil correct?

this follicept **** is an upgrade to minoxidil and the setipiparant thingy majig is an upgrade to finasteride/dutasteride?????
 

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Devon Grimmé, the guy behind Follicept talks about it here (he posted the video on BTT):

[video=youtube;cpHrnNZxRL4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpHrnNZxRL4[/video]
 

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@illuminatiNope its not an upgrade. finasteride/dutasteride and follicept are different things. Follicept is being called a growth stimulant. Not a 5ar inhibitor. Seti is a PGD2 blocker.Findut lower DHT while follicept counteract one of DHT presence in the follicles by sending IGF-1 their.IMO Seti is just a fluke like the cetrizine topical on the forum.Its true that blocking PGD2 would help but we are not sure of its efficiency.Thanks to hellouser and thelema we can know that by the year end.As for calling it better than minoxidil:-Hell yeah if it works. Plus you don't have to apply it on your head every night. Just twice in a month with a two day interval and you are good for about next month(as they say).
 
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The difference with seti is its backed by 2 years of collaborative research and has millions of dollars being spent on it to become a male pattern baldness treatment
 

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[...] trust me if we have the full blown cure, it will be on the shelf in weeks time... do not underestimate the power of big pharmas. FDA is not a roadblocker, in fact they play very important role by weeding out the losers in the market. so trust me FDA is there for the good.. they would do their best and open the gate wide open when that time comes.

That's the thing, though. A complete cure would be great but many of us would be satisfied with something that's as effective as Minoxidil + Finasteride but without the side-effects.

So thank you for your post, and don't take this personally, but Big Pharma^TM can go **** itself.
 

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It's been confirmed that the above poster is a troll and his comments should not be taken seriously. Plus, look at his grammar. Don't you think a "senior supply chain specialist" would be able to type a bit better and formulate his thoughts more clearly?
 

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Merc explores where GSK medicines? .https://www.*********talk.com/showt...ide-will-be-finito-and-NW7-is-going-to-be-NW0

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finasteride will be finito, and NW7 is going to be NW0


well i m gonna start off by introducing myself like every newbie does and explain why i posted under cutting edge section. i ve been following this forum for quite sometime and really much appreciate the input given here. However I see certain things or elements need to be said that almost everyone missing here..

First off I am working as a senior supply chain specialist in one of the 3 big pharma (GSK, Pfizer, Merck). I dont wanna further disclose my identity due to the confidentiality issues. Let me tell you what I do in my daily work.. I work on topics to generate logistic savings which could make around 100-200k USD (annual). There are continuous improvement programs initiated, strictly managed and appreciated by the management. I said it to emphasize how valuable each penny is for the company. Can you image how much money you could make if u find the cure on hair loss? And guys these are big capitalist multinationals and willing to do whatever it takes to earn a dollar more!!!!
So returning to my point... Last week we had our annual team meeting where i had the chance to meet with our head of R&D. He said few things that might be useful to share with you all

1- Hair loss market for big pharmas is now in "dormant" phase. We do not want to launch products the likes of BIM, follicept, RU or kythera...etc. Simply because they are/will not be the full blown cure. Can you image us releasing a product which is not significantly better than finasteride? and only generates few hair follicles on ur head? if we dont live up to our promises, our brand image will be gone.

2-Science is progressive so we appreciate their input. But please do not forget that the ultimate cure will be found by one of these big pharmas. When I asked him about these products, he made a subtle smile and replied to me " if they had found the cure today, we would buy them next business day whatever the price they are asking for" . Guys, lets be honest, do you really think that we would just let some startup in Japan or Asia to scoop the market? Guys, if anyone i mean anyone is sitting on a full blown cure, we are ready to pay very substantial amounts that you could not ever image (same goes for all other diseases e.g. cancer). thats why I said we are in dormant phase, because we dont talk BS in hair loss anymore.. You are also mentioning here about some companies why they stopped launching their product or even canceled the whole project. This is the whole reason behind it... because no one has the whole answer....

3- Does it mean there is no progress on the cure? : I tell you this much guys.. he didnt give away any details on this but u should know that we are spending crazy billions of euros on R&D each year just to be the first one on finding the ultimate cure. On top of it we have common R&D facilities all over the world where all big pharmas join their forces to find the ultimate cure. (again it goes for cancer treatments as well)

4-It can take years, or 5, or 20, or forever but the next product launched by us will make NW7 to NW0. And trust me you would not read this on the ********* forum, it would be breakthrough news all over the world...

5- That makes my last point. I asked him about this forum. yet surprised by his reaction that he knows it.. I bet the team working on hair loss would know every one of you. This forum is very very valuable.. There are some users here (e.g. desmond hellouser....etc) who are very important for us. I would call them lead/key users to penetrate the whole hair loss market. Trust me if they found the cure, first thing they would reach out to you and you would be the first ones to test. So please keep this cutting edge forum intact, give authorization only to those certain users. Each piece of the information is valuable here.. I think we all dont want to see posts like am i going bald? pls advise old timer non finasteride....etc.

Thanks for reading my post and hope to inform you sufficiently. My advice, dont be obsessive and check this forum everyday.. the solution you are looking for is not finasteride or the others above. When the day comes it will find u.. BBC will announce it as last minute news. Just hang in there, u would not go to asia for the treatment, or waiting for the FDA approval.. guys in FDA are ex-pharma employees
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i see some of you giving out about all FDA and stuff.... trust me if we have the full blown cure, it will be on the shelf in weeks time... do not underestimate the power of big pharmas. FDA is not a roadblocker, in fact they play very important role by weeding out the losers in the market. so trust me FDA is there for the good.. they would do their best and open the gate wide open when that time comes.​

anything that does the same as minoxidil or finasteride or any other treatments on the market today, BUT without the side effects is better then nothing!

a cure of course would be better, but that's still out of our reach.
 

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a cure of course would be better, but that's still out of our reach.

A cure already exists courtesy of Dr. Lauster from the University of Berlin, however the patent to the cure belongs to the University. More troubling is that their use for it is intended for generation of skin with hair so end animal testing, so essentially they don't give a shit about you, your hair loss or anyone else with hair loss.
 

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Parsia

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A cure already exists courtesy of Dr. Lauster from the University of Berlin, however the patent to the cure belongs to the University. More troubling is that their use for it is intended for generation of skin with hair so end animal testing, so essentially they don't give a shit about you, your hair loss or anyone else with hair loss.

So you mean the cure is already out there but we can't have access to that? Am I understood you right ?
 

Nadester

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What happened to the derma(sorry) "marshmallowing" with the FGF9 topical application??The BTT thread is no longer alive as i remember
 

KiNGTyreZe

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A cure already exists courtesy of Dr. Lauster from the University of Berlin, however the patent to the cure belongs to the University. More troubling is that their use for it is intended for generation of skin with hair so end animal testing, so essentially they don't give a shit about you, your hair loss or anyone else with hair loss.

I am in Berlin at the moment, maybe I can get some people together. Message me for more details.
 

Fena2000

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A cure already exists courtesy of Dr. Lauster from the University of Berlin, however the patent to the cure belongs to the University. More troubling is that their use for it is intended for generation of skin with hair so end animal testing, so essentially they don't give a shit about you, your hair loss or anyone else with hair loss.

WHAT? Thats just wrong.
 

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Yes, it is once again a wrong statement by hellouser, who either didn't understand the patent cause he lacks background, or he didn't understand it on purpose. He is always on the lookout for things he can rant about, it is an addiction of his, and he doesn't care whether he spreads false information.
 

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lol @ them growth pics just looks no different to the peach fuzz which minoxidil gives

Only cure that exist is the hair transplant followed by the big 3 treatment or a nice wig.
 

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WHAT? Thats just wrong.

You think anyone cares? You think the university cares.. or even Lauster or his students? Try telling this news to Evillocks; 'cure exists, not available for public'
 

2tite2014

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"The cure exists but they're keeping it from us for $$$"

You know I almost want to believe this but this is just tin-foil hat territory.
 
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