Fund. Fund. Fund.

[Python]

Billions of dollars thrown at breast cancer research alone and we are no closer to a cure now than we were 50 years ago. The only purpose of medical research is to create jobs. That's all your money is going to do. Flush it down the toilet and it will do just as much.

Yup, we all know that cancer is probably one of the most complicated problems we have today. We are not gonna fix it any time soon. If they really want to cure cancer, they should put all that money that is being poured in and invest in advancing better techniques. These researchers are given dinosaur age equipment an dare sometimes using crap techniques. They need to stop this madness with cancer research it's all in vain. In reality what they are doing trying to find a cure in the darkness is an act of lunacy.

They need to wait till we have a lot more advances in technologies like 20 more years and then they should be doing the research with the new tools. just 1/(20^100) of the money spend on cancer could have cured hairloss decades ago.

 

[waynakyo]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but let us agree in two things:

- cancer is a tremendously difficult challenge and one of the most complicated medical problems. Its difficulty lies partly in the nature of metastasis and the ability of cancer cells to become tolerant to treatments. They should have dedicated much more esearch to it.

- the idea that research funding is down the toilet is quite ridiculous. The types of cancers that recieved more funding became more manageable. There is a strong correlation between research money and treatments (basic fact). Today you have people being cured of cancers that used to kill within months. Of course there is some luck in the process. Sometimes mere millions can get you a cure sometimes the problem turn out much more challenging and billions are needed....

guys i have no doubt that some of you are not willing to be part of this, but can you please let the others who are motivated and thise that like to act rather than whine organize maybe? We know there are skeptics...

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I personally would not regret if i threw a month salary at a problem that has been haunting me for years and years even if the probability of success is not very high.


Let us examine the alternative options we have:

- sit here and whine for another 20 years

 

[moskva]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but let us agree in two things:

- cancer is a tremendously difficult challenge and one of the most complicated medical problems. Its difficulty lies partly in the nature of metastasis and the ability of cancer cells to become tolerant to treatments. They should have dedicated much more esearch to it.

- the idea that research funding is down the toilet is quite ridiculous. The types of cancers that recieved more funding became more manageable. There is a strong correlation between research money and treatments (basic fact). Today you have people being cured of cancers that used to kill within months. Of course there is some luck in the process. Sometimes mere millions can get you a cure sometimes the problem turn out much more challenging and billions are needed....

guys i have no doubt that some of you are not willing to be part of this, but can you please let the others who are motivated and thise that like to act rather than whine organize maybe? We know there are skeptics...

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I personally would not regret if i threw a month salary at a problem that has been haunting me for years and years even if the probability of success is not very high.


Let us examine the alternative options we have:

- sit here and whine for another 20 years

Years before what we are thinking about a hair loss cure would be some kind of scalp fertilizer which would miraculously grow all your hair back, and this is like try finding an imaginary yet specific grain of sand in the Ganges, everything is vague and unsure in this case. However today we got a clear clue about what to do and the tools are almost there. IMO the certainty is way higher comparing to anytime before.

 

[isishearmyplea]

Well lets fvcking do it then, all you ppl are coming here yapping about stuff the really isnt going to do anything, FDA this FDA that, japan this and that. . .oh even if they discover cure its so far away!! It is pointless to talk about it here, at least for now. .. lets get started it with first at least, These things would be also sorted out with time. The most important thing is to get started. Fvcking do it already.

 

[Python]

So does everyone agree for me to start a website and get the ball rolling? I can take the initiative, just want to know if there is some support.

 

[waynakyo]

Python
yes there WILL be support. I think the lack of excitement is just due to skepticism abiut whether anyone will take the initiative. Great if you can start the website. If you want to bounce off ideas we can talk here or by PM.

anyone else willing to help?

 

[Python]

Python
yes there WILL be support. I think the lack of excitement is just due to skepticism abiut whether anyone will take the initiative. Great if you can start the website. If you want to bounce off ideas we can talk here or by PM.

anyone else willing to help?

Okay, cool, I had already had some ideas from before. I will PM

 

[I.D WALKER]

I'm always interested in seeing new ideas realized. For now present circumstances limit me from becoming directly involved, but if there is an empty seat that should need filled in your operation's think tank, let me know. So hereby sir, you have my endorsement.

 

[waynakyo]

Good to have you on board ID and thanks to Pyton for his initiative. I suggested to him we follow a rather standard approach using examples of established wnd successful foundations. It is sufficient to have the website on, to have the endorsement from the community before starting to create a board that will be managing the foundation and an advisory boars, made of hopefully scholars researcher who will support along the way.

I think the advisory board is very important to give this whole project credibility. It is about time we do that!

 

[Python]

I'm always interested in seeing new ideas realized. For now present circumstances limit me from becoming directly involved, but if there is an empty seat that should need filled in your operation's think tank, let me know. So hereby sir, you have my endorsement.

Yes, you will be a great asset, Walker, we can do rough drafts, and then you can use your skills to step the grammar and language up a notch.

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So I have decided to go with mpbfoundation.org to keep it more focused.

 

[kirk]

This is interesting, but our money would stretch farther in eastern Europe, India, Costa Rica, Philippines or something like that. You would almost have to go to a cheap country to afford study participants.

 

[isishearmyplea]

wow the site is up!! theres some latin words too . . lol. good job python! shd i advertise abt it on other hair forums??

 

[Mach]

So does everyone agree for me to start a website and get the ball rolling? I can take the initiative, just want to know if there is some support.

I think we'll have better luck if you contacted The ISHRS and ask to set up a grant program for research. We'll have people submit their research ideas and set up a poll to select who the grant money goes to.

 

[Python]

wow the site is up!! theres some latin words too . . lol. good job python! shd i advertise abt it on other hair forums??

This is a relatively simple website, going on the same model as www.pfsfoundation.org website, they are a non-profit. The male pattern baldness Foundation will probably be funded by forum members. I agree with what waynayky, we are not gonna get any traction unless we recruit some top researchers to be part of the board, that way companies are much more likely to take notice of us.

I still have a few other pages to create and the website is not searchable by Google atm, going to wait until all the writing is done for that, so that Latin text you see is only placeholder text. I created the logo yesterday, I think it looks good, clean and simple. As far as the design is concern, I just would want someone to step up and create two patterns if you could, one that would replace the black pattern on the bottom footer(not be black), the footer socket and maybe one for on top.

Currently there is 3 of us on board, I would love to get all the top forum members from across the hair loss forums to join. That way it will be much easier to convince other forum members later when we do advertise kinda hard. So everyone can do their part and advertise all they can. I did this fast so we can get things going fast, LET'S DO THIS!!!

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I think we'll have better luck if you contacted The ISHRS and ask to set up a grant program for research. We'll have people submit their research ideas and set up a poll to select who the grant money goes to.

Maybe, but then again, would they want to fund a foundation dedicated to destroying their jobs? lol, I am not sure, but then again, the oil companies do searcher on alternative energy, who knows. Yes, we're going to have polls once everything is done, so when we get things all done, we will vote on where we want the money and initiative to go.

 

[waynakyo]

Mach, this is a possible idea but this comes after you have a foundation that will be credible enough to collect money and decide how to spend it. So foundation first, many options on how to spend down the road...
great job Pyton, if you create an email address for this website that we can later use yo send email to some researchers...

maybe Walker or some other veteran on the forum can suggest names of people who could be useful on the board. Let s not aim too high (they need to be credible but not superstars like cotsarelis) and they need not be involved in a new potential treatment (to make sure they are not biased in their judgment, wanting to award money for themselves).

 

[I.D WALKER]

{Quote} "As far as the design is concern, I just would want someone to step up and create two patterns if you could, one that would replace the black pattern on the bottom footer(not be black), the footer socket and maybe one for on top..,"

Maybe Hellouser would be willing to showcase his graphic design skills here? I believe his artistic involvement alone would be a positive contribution. Any deeper involvement on his part would surely be a bonus. Of course the gentleman can speak quite proficiently for himself.

 

[Python]

{Quote} "As far as the design is concern, I just would want someone to step up and create two patterns if you could, one that would replace the black pattern on the bottom footer(not be black), the footer socket and maybe one for on top..,"

Maybe Hellouser would be willing to showcase his graphic design skills here? I believe his artistic involvement alone would be a positive contribution. Any deeper involvement on his part would surely be a bonus. Of course the gentleman can speak quite proficiently for himself.

Nvm, I already got some patterns, the design is fine. But yeah, if he wants to improve it, it's fine.

So who is going to help with the writing? Anyone else is interested or I'm I going to have to do it.

 

[Mach]

ISHRS is already a credible foundation. You just have to ask if we can raise funds for a project. IMO you'll have a better chance of raising funds and attracting scientists/doctors. You just have to make sure your in control of project scope. Best of luck.

 

[Python]

ISHRS is already a credible foundation. You just have to ask if we can raise funds for a project. IMO you'll have a better chance of raising funds and attracting scientists/doctors. You just have to make sure your in control of project scope. Best of luck.

We don't have to rely on them, even if we do get their support(which is something on the agenda), we still need a website and board that will be handle all the details. The ISHRS has been out there for a long time, what have they done really? Not much, so we have to take innitiative or go back to complaining about the status quo.

 

[hellouser]

ISHRS is already a credible foundation. You just have to ask if we can raise funds for a project. IMO you'll have a better chance of raising funds and attracting scientists/doctors. You just have to make sure your in control of project scope. Best of luck.

Why would you want to work with an organization that's done fvck all thus far? They're useless. If anything they should be piggy backing off US, not the other way around.