HairLossTalk.com guys vs normal guys.

[hairlosshippie]

according to saf the average balding man doesn't have much in common with HairLossTalk.com members, yet society still sees bald men the way they do regardless.

Then these average balding men are beating the system because they seem a hell of a lot happier than the majority of the posters here.

 

[s.a.f]

Its funny how on the very rare occasion that a woman strays on here from the female hairloss section they ALWAYS, ALWAYS say the same thing and that is that we're blowing out of all proportion how women see balding in a man.

 

[maradona]

I have a bald friend probably a norwood 5 and he grows his semi-horshoe pattern and still chases girls. He tries his best is social and talks a lot to people, it is amazing to me. Though he hasn't had much luck with girls I always told him it was his personality and not his hair ( I didn't have the heart - yes he is that innocent). ...tried to BS him into that alpha male thing but it's hard to be a bald alpha male.


In resume he deals with hair loss BETTER than anyone here but he gets rejected everytime. I gotta admit he's one if not the most noble human beings I've met . Now I think he is now getting the hint.

The most noble one I met was me....before hair loss

 

[s.a.f]

according to saf the average balding man doesn't have much in common with HairLossTalk.com members, yet society still sees bald men the way they do regardless.

OR, much more likely its the HairLossTalk.com members who are wrong about how society views them.
That view would seem to be backed up by the fact that the average baldy is alot happier and successful than most of the guys on here seem.

 

[HairPieceMan]

safs view is overly positive, i think its more a mental struggle he has had since early 20s regarding hairloss, he wanted to fix it, he did but he wants to justify that what he did was wrong and there was nothing wrong with it so he spends all day on a hairloss forum convincing people that hairloss is OK.

he is a mental case, if he is fixed his hairloss and happy he should just leave the forum. 99% of people here are crossing a bridge between hair to bald, only so few people are here with a "solution" to hairloss.

saf has solved his hairloss, but is not comfortable with it, so he must go back and try to convince other people that he overeacted with the hair transplants.

 

[s.a.f]

safs view is overly positive, i think its more a mental struggle he has had since early 20s regarding hairloss, he wanted to fix it, he did but he wants to justify that what he did was wrong and there was nothing wrong with it so he spends all day on a hairloss forum convincing people that hairloss is OK.

he is a mental case, if he is fixed his hairloss and happy he should just leave the forum. 99% of people here are crossing a bridge between hair to bald, only so few people are here with a "solution" to hairloss.

saf has solved his hairloss, but is not comfortable with it, so he must go back and try to convince other people that he overeacted with the hair transplants.

Yeah I'll just let or the young balding guys who come on here listen to the sound advice of a guy like you!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I've never said getting a hair transplant or treating hairloss is wrong what I am saying is taking the view that life is over once you lose some hair is wrong, BECAUSE IT IS !!!

 

[hairlosshippie]

safs view is overly positive, i think its more a mental struggle he has had since early 20s regarding hairloss, he wanted to fix it, he did but he wants to justify that what he did was wrong and there was nothing wrong with it so he spends all day on a hairloss forum convincing people that hairloss is OK.

he is a mental case, if he is fixed his hairloss and happy he should just leave the forum. 99% of people here are crossing a bridge between hair to bald, only so few people are here with a "solution" to hairloss.

saf has solved his hairloss, but is not comfortable with it, so he must go back and try to convince other people that he overeacted with the hair transplants.

Yeah I'll just let or the young balding guys who come on here listen to the sound advice of a guy like you!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I've never said getting a hair transplant or treating hairloss is wrong what I am saying is taking the view that life is over once you lose some hair is wrong, BECAUSE IT IS !!!

What, you mean haven't seen these guys quantitative data reports on how "society" views balding to be equal with leprosy and severe limb deformation? :whistle:

 

[s.a.f]

SAF you keep taking the moral highground on this BUT you had a head full of transplants. So are you a normal guy or a hair loss talk guy?

Oh I'm sorry I did'nt know that to come on here you had to subscibe to the belief that life is over once you start losing hair?

I am the voice of rationality amongst the deluded. :hump:

When have I ever told anybody not to do anything about treating hairloss, or when have I ever said that it does'nt matter at all?

The point I keep having to make is that most guys on here are extremley deluded in their opinions.

As I keep saying most posters on here still have better hair than me.
And most (or nearly all) bald guys dont struggle with things the way that HairLossTalk.com posters do.

How is trying to put things in perspective and being rational 'taking the moral high ground'?

 

[zeroes]

s.a.f keep fighting the good fight, but seems like a lot of posters on here are lost causes. Better off trying to help the newbies that post here and forget about these guys.

 

[s.a.f]

dude.. firstly I do not necessarily think that life is over once you start losing your hair. For some it actually enhances their look, for others, doesn't make the blind bit of difference but for a percentage, they are f***ed without it.

Anyway what I am saying is you can't really go round spouting how hair loss is not the end of the world and have had 4 hair transplants no matter how rational you opinion is. The fact that your hair situation is worse than most on here is your responsibility. If losing it all was not the end of the world for you you wouldn't have been unforunate enought to have had a couple of bothced surgeries, you would be just like every other average bald guy!

It's like me getting leg lengthening surgery and going from 5ft 6" to 5ft 10" and saying being short does not mean you can't enjoy life. The statment may be true, but it's a bit rich coming from someone who took drastic steps to alter their appearance.

So what am I supposed to say? I cant change the fact that I had hair transplant's, but what I can do is speak from experience. Because everything that these guys are going through I went through and have come out the other side.

Ill say to all the guys on here if you want to get a hair transplant do it, if you want to wear a wig do that but dont blame hairloss for the fact that you lead a pathetic life.
It may be a contributer but no amount of hairloss is going to ruin the life of someone who is'nt already f*cked up.

If you allow yourself to believe that its the end it will be.

Guys on here have to ask themselves "whats the difference between me and the majority of other balding guys who dont let it ruin their lives".
Because I look around now and everywhere I see guys who are in the same position hairwise as I was and yet they are living life and enjoying it.

And all you naysayers out there know this is true! You know that there are other guys your age getting on with it and not wallowing in depression like you.

Given the opportunity I'd still get hair transplant's (decent ones) again but what I would'nt do is allow myself to become a guy who shuts himself away allows it to become an obsession (which for most guys on here it definatley is). and is too paranoid to go out and take part in life.
And then they come on here and blame it all on hairloss.

And put a bunch of these guys together and that just allows them to believe it even more.

Its an easy excuse to make up for your own failure. :hump:

 

[HairPieceMan]

depends on what you define as "success" or "failure".

if your idea of success is ugly women, or ok women but want lots of money and your happy to give over your money then fine.

so it depends on your standards of looks/money.

 

[s.a.f]

depends on what you define as "success" or "failure".

if your idea of success is ugly women, or ok women but want lots of money and your happy to give over your money then fine.

so it depends on your standards of looks/money.

You're the only person sad enough to fall for this.
But keep trying to promote this fact if it makes you feel better and justifies your lame existance.

One things for sure success is'nt living at home with your mom like a child at 26 and having no job.

Its funny how even with a full head of hair and a 'rock star lifestyle' you're still not getting any women and did'nt mention you were planning on buying a wife from a 3rd world country?

I'm not getting ugly women and nor am I paying for them. Neither are any of the balding guys that I know.

 

[Ori83]

Life without hair isnt a the same, thats a given.
so blaming "your failures" on hair-loss is fair play saf...

preach your same preachings to fat people and see how they react. (and being overweight is fixable unlike being bald)

 

[BrightonBaldy]

i wish i could find the video i watched last year, was about contentment/happiness, was an MIT lecture i think.

this group of scientists found that people had a base level of happiness and contentment that followed them throughout life, even after massive traumas or massive moments of happiness, most people eventually fall back into their old base level of happiness.

they studied 20,000 people for 7 years.. they had lottery winners whos happiness levels went through the roof but eventually fell back down to normal, they also had people amputated in car crashes who were suicidal but eventually return to being content after a while too. when asked at each stage about their life, the people surveyed would always go back to saying the same things they said 2 years earlier. people can 'get used' to a lottery win and they can 'get used' to having no legs, eventually it becomes part of their life and their overall outlook doesnt change in time.


HOWEVER... the lad giving the lecture did say one thing, he said theres an exception to that rule, he sad that one thing people NEVER get used to, in either a positive or negative way, is how they look.

amongst the 20,000 people, they had a few people who ended up disfigured, none of whom simply 'got used' to it. they also had people who went for plastic surgery, came out much happier with their looks, yet never 'got used' them and stayed happy for years longer.

a group of MIT scientists, study 20,000 people for 7 years, come to the conclusion that everybody can get bored of success and can get over tragedy eventually, as they can only operate long term at whatever their level of happiness/contentment is supposed to be.

they then also say that people NEVER GET USED TO THE WAY THEY LOOK... whoever out there thinks theres balding people who simply dont care and move on in life are delusional, these guys are simply better at hiding their pain. guys in their 80's you see sitting around the pub with bald heads everywhere, will still be looking in the mirror at the age of 85 and remember what it was like to have a full head of hair, people will still miss it even after a lifetime.

 

[seb]

i wish i could find the video i watched last year, was about contentment/happiness, was an MIT lecture i think.

this group of scientists found that people had a base level of happiness and contentment that followed them throughout life, even after massive traumas or massive moments of happiness, most people eventually fall back into their old base level of happiness.

they studied 20,000 people for 7 years.. they had lottery winners whos happiness levels went through the roof but eventually fell back down to normal, they also had people amputated in car crashes who were suicidal but eventually return to being content after a while too. when asked at each stage about their life, the people surveyed would always go back to saying the same things they said 2 years earlier. people can 'get used' to a lottery win and they can 'get used' to having no legs, eventually it becomes part of their life and their overall outlook doesnt change in time.


HOWEVER... the lad giving the lecture did say one thing, he said theres an exception to that rule, he sad that one thing people NEVER get used to, in either a positive or negative way, is how they look.

amongst the 20,000 people, they had a few people who ended up disfigured, none of whom simply 'got used' to it. they also had people who went for plastic surgery, came out much happier with their looks, yet never 'gat ot used' them and stayed happy for years longer.

a group of MIT scientists, study 20,000 people for 7 years, come to the conclusion that everybody can get bored of success and can get over tragedy eventually, as they can only operate long term at whatever their level of happiness/contentment is supposed to be.

they then also say that people NEVER GET USED TO THE WAY THEY LOOK... whoever out there thinks theres balding people who simply dont care and move on in life are delusional, these guys are simply better at hiding their pain. guys in their 80's you see sitting around the pub with bald heads everywhere, will still be looking in the mirror at the age of 85 and remember what it was like to have a full head of hair, people will still miss it even after a lifetime.

Very good post.Comes down to the point again of striving too be happy in your own skin....something that is a lifelong process.

 

[Beingbaldsucks]

The hypocrite that said baldness is not a big deal and spend thousands of dollars on hair transplant'S, there is no one who balding and don't care about it, no f*****g one, maybe some of them pretend in society so they will not look weak, but all of them crushed by it, those who buzz it just can't handle it anymore, almost all the balding guys taking care of it, those who are effected less are those who already have life with wife kids and career, those who are balding in the early 20 are doomed to a life of rejection,only woman that may care less about it are 28+, all the other guys around you look way better then you and you considered a freak, don't argue cuz I know a sly bald guy in my age that is like that. Saf is a pathetic delouded person that love preaching anyone about how they shouldent care yet he himeself so insecure about it that he needs to spend all his money on hair transplant'S.

 

[Jockson]

You could argue SAF is being hypocritical, but it's irrelevant really because what he says is true. A member of these forums doesn't at all represent your average balding guy. Think about it, how common is male pattern baldness and how many people out there are leading normal lives without caring what others think. If it was up to these forums you would barely see a balding guy in the street as they're better off not leaving the house at all.

 

[s.a.f]

The hypocrite that said baldness is not a big deal and spend thousands of dollars on hair transplant'S, there is no one who balding and don't care about it, no f****ing one, maybe some of them pretend in society so they will not look weak, but all of them crushed by it, those who buzz it just can't handle it anymore, almost all the balding guys taking care of it, those who are effected less are those who already have life with wife kids and career, those who are balding in the early 20 are doomed to a life of rejection,only woman that may care less about it are 28+, all the other guys around you look way better then you and you considered a freak, don't argue cuz I know a sly bald guy in my age that is like that. Saf is a pathetic delouded person that love preaching anyone about how they shouldent care yet he himeself so insecure about it that he needs to spend all his money on hair transplant'S.

Another one who has'nt actually read any of my posts properly it seems.
Where have I said you should'nt care? If it bothers you then do what I did, get a hair transplant, get a wig or whatever.
But dont try and blame the fact that your life is 5hit on the fact that your hair is'nt what it once was.
If you have to take the hit in terms of looks then take it.
Nobody likes going bald just like nobody likes getting older. But MOST people are secure enough to deal with it.

Once again I'll ask if its such a death sentance why are'nt 99% of bald guys on forums and getting hair transplant's and wigs?
Why do most balding guys (normal guys not the depressives) have no trouble socializing and having relationships?

So every bald guy with a wife and kids was a NW1 on his wedding day and suddenly went bald overnight when he hit 35?

I know plenty of bald and balding guys and NONE of them fit the stereotype that people on here preach about.

Sad but true this forum attracts the lamest bald guys and its become their refuge where they can all feel comforted in their combined failure.

I wasted my 20's and now I'm trying to help you guys, but I guess I'll have to let you wait till your older then look back and regret - which I promise you you will.
BeingBaldSucks your not even bald yet you've got more hair than me so whats your excuse?

 

[s.a.f]

[youtube:9byrm9v3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zML2DlAebxg[/youtube:9byrm9v3]

These guys lost a bit more than their hair and yet they have'nt given up on life. (even the bald one).

What do you think they'd say about your situation?

 

[LooseItAll]

It's pointless to try to convince people that hairloss is not that significant of a problem when in fact you agree that people here are the ones that were insecure before hair loss kicked in and that's why they are finding it hard to cope.

Saying that mind you telling us how to get confident? Talking sh*t and making fun of us clearly doesn't work.