Have You Had Enough?

[kosmo]

it looks bad. i mean i wish the best for him that it gets better, but in the back it looks bad. and he says himself that it looks worse in person. so shut up. let me my opinion.

don't post here anymore. you are contributing nothing to this forum. i guess it makes you feel better about your hairloss to tell andy that his looks bad? yes, you are entitled to your opinion. but i really dont think anyone here wants to hear it. i have read some of your other posts and it's clear that you are angry, bitter, and extremely self-consious. andy's hair does not look bad, and no one in real life is going to sit there and critique his hair like you are. why don't you post some pictures so we call all analyze your hair and tell you how bad your hair looks? wouldn't that be helpful? you seem to think so....

 

[Diffused_confidence]

More than 90% users voted that it's eating them up. OP i also used to drink heavily remembering sh*t. I also didnt take them opportunities. And now I'm just a descending dog

I hate this. It consumes me daily. I have thought of getting surgery hoping for a temporary fix but I know I still may have results from finasteride long term. But man this is depressing. I feel hopeless. 2 months ago I felt like I was reclaiming my life by treating it but it looks like it's still getting worse.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

More than 90% users voted that it's eating them up. OP i also used to drink heavily remembering sh*t. I also didnt take them opportunities. And now I'm just a descending dog

Are you playing a character or trying to, like Janey might be doing some times because your posts don't match up. Are you tall and good looking with great cheekbones or not? I see absolutely nothing in your obscured pics to indicate that you would need to drink heavily about your looks or hair. You are like the guy in Fight Club who went to prostate cancer meetings to meet people even though he had no cancer. I like you a lot but your posts have me baffled entirely about what is going on with you. Many of us do have serious, serious self-esteem and self-hatred from baldness or other dysphoria and it can be crippling.

People who love many of us can't get through because of the loser and cuckold mentality that plagues virtually all men today in modern society. All the p**rn is based on degrading and humiliating people or showing submission and dominance. When p**rn was on VCR, people just had sex without all of the intense backdrop of buying a cage and a dog bowl. Guys freak out because testosterone can drive gender preference and cause all of this co-dependent loser stuff and it happened to me. It's like rock bottom with drugs and alcohol. You are spinning and falling and powerless to change your fate or even to try.

Between grief and nothing, I will still take the grief. It's being vulnerable that creates intimacy and love but if guys are terrified of somebody finding out they had a transplant, then what's the point? I had great shame about getting transplants that turned out crummy because I was embarrassed that I cared enough to get transplants and that's what guys don't get. People will see that there's a difference or we can wear hats but they simply aren't worth the risk and the shame of getting for many people and even then, you worry about dupa from the donor sites and people noticing that and unless, it's sensational, it's not worth the talk or the faith and certainly not, "oh, I will just get a transplant in ten years"<rolls eyes> Yeah, that plan always works.

Janey

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

There are too many reasons as to why I drink so much. I do NOT consider myself good looking if that's what you want to hear. Also my balding is very severe even if the pictures don't look like it the truth is that when you touch your hair is when you notice it the most also the hairline is hidden.

I also have very deep self steem issues, which are magnified because I'm a blackpiller, but I'm trynna overcome.

I will have to look up blackpiller because like incel believe it or not, nobody has any idea what that means. Okay, I looked it up and your best bet is to stay at home and keep drinking. That's the rock bottom that a person has to sink to and half the guys on here are such assholes that it's hard to feel sorry for them anyway through the haze of wanton misogyny and latent homosexuality that you guys are going to have to figure that one out but T makes it worse not better.

Females don't have all of this filth and depravity running through their minds but I did and it's absolutely debilitating and no one can succeed in that mind-set and probably the correct decision is suicide because you feel compelled by fate. Don't let the universe make you be something but I think heroin and oxy are better choices than alcohol because that makes men again, far more aggressive and repetitive and they get into this swirl where they relate everything to sucking or getting sucked or f*****g or getting fucked for fetishistic reasons and I try to tell people, "now, now" and it's a waste of time. You guys get off on being bald and being angry incels and more power to you but I am done with that mind-set and I will never return under any circumstances where the shame compels the pleasure. It's exhausting and stupid and literally makes no sense in an estrogen environment. Notice chicks love taking our money, some of them to feed that addiction and it's a service but getting financially dominated or eating another guy's cream pie is not a successful path in life and it's co-dependent as hell. I destroyed my life in many ways already but I found something that built self-esteem even when suicide would have been logical. But the depth of these posts exceeds any redeeming value and then many of the other half make fun of celebrities at least trying to improve themselves and they come off needy and dickish.

I am sorry but I need to stick to medical questions about hair for people who actually want help and are willing to implement it and many guys do contact me for that and I keep getting the alarm bell thing because 222 guys post about some imbecilic thing that I have no idea who it is or why it matters. I try to be funny some times too but it always comes back to ten different posts by the same guys that say the same thing: "I suck organs because I have no hair so it's either ugly fat chicks or taking it up the tuchas and no, it's not. Many of you and I would have been too, probably would have been assholes if you had kept your hair and now you are mad because being an a**h** without hair doesn't work and maybe that's a good thing.

 

[We Move]

I just accidently voted in a 15yr old poll. Voted Bring it b1tch, FWIW.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I try to help people with empathy and kindness but eh, I really love the guess if I am going bald folks who argue back that they do too have Telogen Effluvium because their brother and father and uncles aren't bald and they don't understand how Baysian statistics work. All of that family tree stuff is a waste of time because you have already seen one of the cards because being in the state of balding or being bald for any reason is highly correlated with male pattern baldness regardless but apparently dermatologists still ply this garbage on people. No, you don't have Telogen Effluvium and no, it's not growing back unless it was a benevolent shed but instead we hem and haw and try not to laugh when they mention biotin and all of the stress in their lives. College kids rarely have the sort of stress that causes hair loss and the earlier you see hair loss, the worse the news, regardless even if your minoxidil works from 18 to 21, what then?

I still always answer all of the questions that I reasonably know about if the person goes bump or has no answers but I am getting depressed for you all and I am not sure I feel like cajoling people to take their finasteride like a man, interests me anymore since without finasteride or duta, there simply is no path forward for guys who don't use oral min and microeneedle extensively and very few of you want your hair back enough because microneedling is messy and hurts, sort of like brushing one's teeth, on that level. Even doing the temples for thirty seconds daily might work great combined with something else but without finasteride, min, or oral minoxidil, this is a very bleak path and more disturbing to me because it's an utter and complete waste of time. finasteride and min are for life, guys and if you don't like it, then drop out or do research as data points since that helps others but I think it is pointless for me to talk about anything with guys who refuse to try to stay on finasteride with all of these breezy reasons why they won't use it. Fine. Be bald but there's no point ever as far as I can tell by the photographic and pictorial evidence for guys who don't use finasteride and use it forever. Merck might be evil and heartless but that doesn't change the point.

 

[Diffused_confidence]

There are too many reasons as to why I drink so much. I do NOT consider myself good looking if that's what you want to hear. Also my balding is very severe even if the pictures don't look like it the truth is that when you touch your hair is when you notice it the most also the hairline is hidden.

I also have very deep self steem issues, which are magnified because I'm a blackpiller, but I'm trynna overcome.

I can confirm. I showed my hairline and how bad it is. I hide it too by swiping my hair across. The only hope is if I'm a good responder to finasteride or if there is some advancement on surgery to recover my hair.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I question whether this is worthwhile at all then but it might be cathartic and I get that you guys aren't going to stop posting them like Gunnersup and it's always the same crap and many of them do indeed get plenty of traffic and some are humorous at first but I have nothing to offer to this thread since you aren't looking for help anyway and I am not a psychologist and I suddenly woke up and realized my advice for males is always the same.

Go on finasteride, start with minoxidil two percent, not five and use keto for sheds. If you aren't lazy then microneedle and that's it and people who don't use finastride negate all of the value of the other three and yes, Telogen Effluvium in my opinion untreated after a shed might indeed cause hair loss. Too many guys are reporting it over and over and over and what do I know? It might be that simply being in the condition of being fully or partially balding is something that the male body finds useless to repair the way that it would do for someone female or on HRT so I have changed my opinion about even going on min without finasteride. It all is in fact as you guys say, hopeless for you but you are all really nice guys and I enjoy a lot of your threads but it's just like pointless bragging if a guy doesn't do every Goddess-damn thing to get finasteride down his throat regardless of whether you need a mother bird to regurgitate it for you; otherwise this is maddening, fruitless and hopeless and I would just give up and move on. Hair's a chick thing and a child thing anyway. I might be Peter Pan but you guys aren't and I understand the anger perfectly in a post-industrial society. I got kicked to the curb when I went bald and it was me as much as her. Without self-esteem, all of this life is a race to the bottom and I raced there quickly so I jumped ship cause I knew this would work.

Goddess bless
Janey

 

[Diffused_confidence]

I question whether this is worthwhile at all then but it might be cathartic and I get that you guys aren't going to stop posting them like Gunnersup and it's always the same crap and many of them do indeed get plenty of traffic and some are humorous at first but I have nothing to offer to this thread since you aren't looking for help anyway and I am not a psychologist and I suddenly woke up and realized my advice for males is always the same.

Go on finasteride, start with minoxidil two percent, not five and use keto for sheds. If you aren't lazy then microneedle and that's it and people who don't use finastride negate all of the value of the other three and yes, Telogen Effluvium in my opinion untreated after a shed might indeed cause hair loss. Too many guys are reporting it over and over and over and what do I know? It might be that simply being in the condition of being fully or partially balding is something that the male body finds useless to repair the way that it would do for someone female or on HRT so I have changed my opinion about even going on min without finasteride. It all is in fact as you guys say, hopeless for you but you are all really nice guys and I enjoy a lot of your threads but it's just like pointless bragging if a guy doesn't do every Goddess-damn thing to get finasteride down his throat regardless of whether you need a mother bird to regurgitate it for you; otherwise this is maddening, fruitless and hopeless and I would just give up and move on. Hair's a chick thing and a child thing anyway. I might be Peter Pan but you guys aren't and I understand the anger perfectly in a post-industrial society. I got kicked to the curb when I went bald and it was me as much as her. Without self-esteem, all of this life is a race to the bottom and I raced there quickly so I jumped ship cause I knew this would work.

Goddess bless
Janey

The thing is. Both us are using anti androgens and still losing hair. The hair I had 3 months ago still had enough density at the temple areas so that I could style my hair and look ok. Now it's impossible. I keep telling myself it's the shedding phase but no new hairs are coming in and I'm losing hope. If I can't stop it with finasteride then I'm fucked.