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Well i don't believe you...I think you're being humble with everything.
But i should probably end it here before @buckthorn say that i'm hitting on his woman again
Hcell Before And After Hair Growth Photos
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But i should probably end it here before @buckthorn say that i'm hitting on his woman again
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Hairismylife
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Looking forward to your result. Which month are you planning to go in?
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Just wondering... What are you going to do for 2 months? Vacation? Oo?
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This is perfect opportunity for social experiment. Hit nightclub scene, other mingling events, log reactions to balding foreigner. I'd also, ask the people that do this procedure if there are others that have had it done that you could talk to.
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Does anyone know if there are any plans to bring this procedure to north america or europe?
From HCell website:
HCell Inc. is a privately held biotechnology company, based in Austin, Texas, devoted to research, developing advancement treatment for patients with various forms of alopecia regardless of gender, age or ethnicity. HCell is currently focusing on HC017AA for the treatment of Alopecia Areata in pediatric patients. HCell Inc. is also working on initiating regulatory steps for HC0100, which comprises proprietary composition and procedure for the treatment of Androgenic Alopecia conditions in both men and women. Furthermore, HCell Inc. is planning pre-clinical development with the intent to launch a human clinical study in the United States.
the HCell ppl seem to be very active in replying to comments on follicle thought (check out the comments section). Just found some info about their treatment, apparently you need to take some oral medication with the treatment as well :
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Thank you! We are so excited for our ODD grant, and we are so excited for this milestone for HCell.
I’ll answer your question in sequence as you have asked:
1. We haven’t published our research result to anywhere, but are planning to. We are currently waiting to conduct some important research which we have not published yet as we are still in research.
2. The growth first starts at 3 months in the zoom up views, (x10-30) and to the naked eye in 9 months. Our protocol is that we follow up every 3, 9 and 18 months after the last injection.(min) Normally, we do not need any additional injections. Since HCell has been around for about 4 years (since our initial establishment) we have kept our follow ups to our initial patients and have seen great results, which has shown that there are no additional injections required for “maintenance”.
3. I didn’t recommend any other drugs except Minoxidil with HCell as I thought it could work in conjunction, creating a synergy effect for HCell, for its vasodilation property; however, this was not the case. As the main concept of HCell is thickening the scalp and enhancing the vascularity on the scalp with neovascularization and anastomosis, it did not work with each other but the opposite; the results were unpredictable. For this reason, I do not use Minoxidil with HCell anymore except for very limited patients (if any).
4. We did find some adverse reaction such as:
1)5% of patients who experience swelling on top of their forehead, which is de-swelled after 2 to 3 days.
2) Patients who feel an itching sensation after a couple of days, which then is healed by spraying steroid for one or two days.
3) Lesser than 1% of patients may experience dry patches, and dry spots for 2 to 4 weeks. This is because we have suddenly rapidly increased the thickness of the scalp, causing the skin to react accordingly. (Similar to a paint on a balloon, which has been painted, dried and then spontaneously blown up in size. As a result, the dried paint becomes flaky, just like the outer layer of the skin)
4) Patients who have stopped oral medication has experienced what it seems like an increasing hair loss during the procedures directly prior to the procedure. This is done when the medication is stopped immediately before the treatment. Once the oral drug is stopped, the results does too. Likewise, we found that as the oral drug is stopped and the treatment commences, it is hard to normalize the hair follicles even after 3-9 months. My hypothesis is that since there are two types of hair: normal (bigger and thicker hair) vs. fragile (thin and can be pulled out easily), the unhealthy hair follicles are unable to stay on the scalp (resulting in hair falling out) as the regrowth of the “normal/ healthy” hair follicle grows after HCell Treatment. For a little while, it may seem that there is an empty scalp, as there is lots of fragile hair loss, and regrowth of healthy hair at least, to the naked eye for 3 months following the HCell Treatment. However, in zoom- up view (x10-30), we are able to observe the new hair growth, which then is not fragile but heatlhy.
5. Yes, the treatment does follow the Korean FDA and or its equivalent."
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Thank you! We are so excited for our ODD grant, and we are so excited for this milestone for HCell.
I’ll answer your question in sequence as you have asked:
1. We haven’t published our research result to anywhere, but are planning to. We are currently waiting to conduct some important research which we have not published yet as we are still in research.
2. The growth first starts at 3 months in the zoom up views, (x10-30) and to the naked eye in 9 months. Our protocol is that we follow up every 3, 9 and 18 months after the last injection.(min) Normally, we do not need any additional injections. Since HCell has been around for about 4 years (since our initial establishment) we have kept our follow ups to our initial patients and have seen great results, which has shown that there are no additional injections required for “maintenance”.
3. I didn’t recommend any other drugs except Minoxidil with HCell as I thought it could work in conjunction, creating a synergy effect for HCell, for its vasodilation property; however, this was not the case. As the main concept of HCell is thickening the scalp and enhancing the vascularity on the scalp with neovascularization and anastomosis, it did not work with each other but the opposite; the results were unpredictable. For this reason, I do not use Minoxidil with HCell anymore except for very limited patients (if any).
4. We did find some adverse reaction such as:
1)5% of patients who experience swelling on top of their forehead, which is de-swelled after 2 to 3 days.
2) Patients who feel an itching sensation after a couple of days, which then is healed by spraying steroid for one or two days.
3) Lesser than 1% of patients may experience dry patches, and dry spots for 2 to 4 weeks. This is because we have suddenly rapidly increased the thickness of the scalp, causing the skin to react accordingly. (Similar to a paint on a balloon, which has been painted, dried and then spontaneously blown up in size. As a result, the dried paint becomes flaky, just like the outer layer of the skin)
4) Patients who have stopped oral medication has experienced what it seems like an increasing hair loss during the procedures directly prior to the procedure. This is done when the medication is stopped immediately before the treatment. Once the oral drug is stopped, the results does too. Likewise, we found that as the oral drug is stopped and the treatment commences, it is hard to normalize the hair follicles even after 3-9 months. My hypothesis is that since there are two types of hair: normal (bigger and thicker hair) vs. fragile (thin and can be pulled out easily), the unhealthy hair follicles are unable to stay on the scalp (resulting in hair falling out) as the regrowth of the “normal/ healthy” hair follicle grows after HCell Treatment. For a little while, it may seem that there is an empty scalp, as there is lots of fragile hair loss, and regrowth of healthy hair at least, to the naked eye for 3 months following the HCell Treatment. However, in zoom- up view (x10-30), we are able to observe the new hair growth, which then is not fragile but heatlhy.
5. Yes, the treatment does follow the Korean FDA and or its equivalent."
Here's a link to doctor in Los Angeles, who is basically doing the same thing that the Korean doctor is doing in Seoul. He performs PRP and adds the Fibroblast Growth Factor. I do see some improvement in the photos, which are near the bottom of his website. You'll also find that he's performing a procedure on video and discussing why his PRP version is better. Thoughts?
http://westlahair.com/prp-hair-therapy/
http://westlahair.com/prp-hair-therapy/
Follicle Thought hasn't managed this well. He got carried away again -- Just like he did with ReBoost lol.
This method isn't nearly as effective as his original 'advert'.
I contacted the administrators of H-Cell. They asked me for images of my hairline. I obliged. The pictures show frontal hair-loss. Apparently their technique isn't effective in this region, so they recommended their hair-transplant procedure.
Now his edited blog post reveals that it isn't actually effective for frontal hair-loss. And reveals that Joseph hasn't actually seen any clinical data on the efficacy of this product. He's just seen the images and sales spiel his readers have.
Maybe he should establish the facts before recommending this to people for money? Just maybe.
This method isn't nearly as effective as his original 'advert'.
I contacted the administrators of H-Cell. They asked me for images of my hairline. I obliged. The pictures show frontal hair-loss. Apparently their technique isn't effective in this region, so they recommended their hair-transplant procedure.
Now his edited blog post reveals that it isn't actually effective for frontal hair-loss. And reveals that Joseph hasn't actually seen any clinical data on the efficacy of this product. He's just seen the images and sales spiel his readers have.
Maybe he should establish the facts before recommending this to people for money? Just maybe.
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Have you allready been to seoul?
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3 trips to Southkorea over the course of 56 days + 6000 dollar costs for a maybe treatment, that's a huge gamble. Hard to pull of financially and organizationally if you have obligations...fml.