Hey There, It’s The End Of June, 2018, Do You Know Where Your New Hair Loss Treatments Are?

[MaestroTR]

You need to use Finasteride if you are broke and cannot afford hair transplant from an elite surgeon.

 

[HairSuit]

I always love reading this part of the board, while you guys are all on here hoping and praying for the next magic cure (to reach phase III and then dissapear) because you are all too weak dicked or weak minded to take finasteride; I am taking finasteride daily and my hair is now regrowing quite nicely.

For any newbies reading this - if you want to keep your hair, you need to be on finasteride; or you can wait and pray on one of these cures, but it is going to be at least 10 years before one is released (and even then, it will only be as good as finasteride is now) - for every day you are not on an anti-androgen, it is a day of DHT damaging your follicles; and reversing this damage is very difficult. DHT will be killing your follicles right this moment.

and another thing that makes me laugh, people mocking Brotzu and saying "it was always a joke"... how come before the bad press release you were all saying it was going to be a cure? and when I said it was going to suck you disliked all my posts and called me foolish for not believing it was a cure?

Buddy, it has nothing to do with being too “weak dicked” to take finasteride. It’s a real decision. You make that choice as someone, I’m guessing, in your early 20’s, who doesn’t realize that the detrimental affects get real at some point. For most guys, it’s when they stop taking the pill. finasteride works great in most cases, and can be a life saver for a time, but don’t ridicule people. You’re lying to yourself to think that it is not a game of Russian roulette. Trust me.... I played and won for a loooong time, until I lost, and then you wish you never played in the first place.....

 

[HairSuit]

You need to use Finasteride if you are broke and cannot afford hair transplant from an elite surgeon.

You need to use finasteride even if you’re NOT broke and CAN afford an elite surgeon. If you don’t, enjoy paying all that money for a transplant that will last you 18 mos without something to stop the progression.

 

[Ollie]

what treatment are you talking about that i can get a lab to synthesize? RU? the Brotzu lotion? (i haven't seen anyone post any pictures where brotzu has regrown anything although granted it is still very early for that; i think it probably won't grow as much as minoxidil does, but hopefully it will at least inhibit DHT so that people who might not have strong penises can finally stop their follicles degrading)

Well the new flavour of the month would be PTD-DBM by Choi. It is actually a peptide - just a chain of amino acids. Peptide synthesis is pretty standardised by peptide manufacturers as long as you have the sequence they can make it for you.

Obviously we know both the mice studies and the human follicle studies were done in a lab and didn't have the barrier of human skin but it is quite literally the cure if it works. DHT basically sends signals in protein form (CXXC5) which miniaturises the follicle and slowly prevents the WNT pathway from regenerating the follicle. PTD basically prevents CXXC5 from being communicated so 1) DHT no longer can affect the follicle and 2) WNT pathway doesn't get down regulated so it can regenerate local tissue and follicles.

As for Brotzu though check the homemade results. Im sure you've seen the temple results, but theres a couple others that are extremely impressive.

 

[ThinningPatience]

That's the way I see it. Let fall out what is going to fall out while you wait for Tsuji. Hell, if you're only a NW2 now, there will probably be 10 other companies doing what Tsuji is doing (maybe even better) by the time you are where I am (hair loss stabilized/end of the road). Take that NW2 get as many girls as you can or find a wife before you get to Stage 3.

f*** yeah, that’s the SPIRIT. Thank you.

 

[ThinningPatience]

I always love reading this part of the board, while you guys are all on here hoping and praying for the next magic cure (to reach phase III and then dissapear) because you are all too weak dicked or weak minded to take finasteride; I am taking finasteride daily and my hair is now regrowing quite nicely.

For any newbies reading this - if you want to keep your hair, you need to be on finasteride; or you can wait and pray on one of these cures, but it is going to be at least 10 years before one is released (and even then, it will only be as good as finasteride is now) - for every day you are not on an anti-androgen, it is a day of DHT damaging your follicles; and reversing this damage is very difficult. DHT will be killing your follicles right this moment.

and another thing that makes me laugh, people mocking Brotzu and saying "it was always a joke"... how come before the bad press release you were all saying it was going to be a cure? and when I said it was going to suck you disliked all my posts and called me foolish for not believing it was a cure?

If you give this advice to someone who’s depressed, then congratulations, you’ve committed felony cause he’s definitely gonna kill him self.

 

[nohairnolife]

I don't see the problem with people venting. This is the only place we have where everyone understands.

 

[Feelsbadman.jpg]

I always love reading this part of the board, while you guys are all on here hoping and praying for the next magic cure (to reach phase III and then dissapear) because you are all too weak dicked or weak minded to take finasteride; I am taking finasteride daily and my hair is now regrowing quite nicely.

For any newbies reading this - if you want to keep your hair, you need to be on finasteride; or you can wait and pray on one of these cures, but it is going to be at least 10 years before one is released (and even then, it will only be as good as finasteride is now) - for every day you are not on an anti-androgen, it is a day of DHT damaging your follicles; and reversing this damage is very difficult. DHT will be killing your follicles right this moment.

and another thing that makes me laugh, people mocking Brotzu and saying "it was always a joke"... how come before the bad press release you were all saying it was going to be a cure? and when I said it was going to suck you disliked all my posts and called me foolish for not believing it was a cure?

I called brotzu a joke. I've never thought it was a cure or anything of note. Topicals are sh*t. I took finasteride for 3 years, stopped for due to cost (no generic back then) for 4 years, and have been on it for past 3 years. No sides, it works well for me but i want more protection from Androgenetic Alopecia. I plan to continue to take finasteride with rch-01.

 

[washed_up]

I called brotzu a joke. I've never thought it was a cure or anything of note. Topicals are sh*t. I took finasteride for 3 years, stopped for due to cost (no generic back then) for 4 years, and have been on it for past 3 years. No sides, it works well for me but i want more protection from Androgenetic Alopecia. I plan to continue to take finasteride with rch-01.

Polichem's previous results already show reduction in scalp DHT while also slightly reducing serum DHT. I don't see how anyone can be negative on a targeted topical anti-androgen to use in conjunction with a systemic approach to further shield your follicles from DHT. There have been plenty of users on various forums over the years who have done exactly that but with CB or RU or topical finasteride or duasteride with success.

Let's suppose sevi/fevi can offer the same systemic results as finasteride without messing with your other hormones internally AND you use Polichem's topical finasteride to target the scalp. That would be a pretty good regimen. But it seems like a lot of the guys here just want a magic genie to rub their head and have all their problems go away or they'll kill themselves and they get disappointed that none of future products are that.

 

[@GeraltOfRivia]

Saw a video abt Replicel and the guy was saying it maybe available to only japnese at first.For it to commercialise in other countries it may take 5-7 years so .....

It really is 5-7 years

 

[@GeraltOfRivia]

I always love reading this part of the board, while you guys are all on here hoping and praying for the next magic cure (to reach phase III and then dissapear) because you are all too weak dicked or weak minded to take finasteride; I am taking finasteride daily and my hair is now regrowing quite nicely.

For any newbies reading this - if you want to keep your hair, you need to be on finasteride; or you can wait and pray on one of these cures, but it is going to be at least 10 years before one is released (and even then, it will only be as good as finasteride is now) - for every day you are not on an anti-androgen, it is a day of DHT damaging your follicles; and reversing this damage is very difficult. DHT will be killing your follicles right this moment.

and another thing that makes me laugh, people mocking Brotzu and saying "it was always a joke"... how come before the bad press release you were all saying it was going to be a cure? and when I said it was going to suck you disliked all my posts and called me foolish for not believing it was a cure?

I agree .Some of our friends here are living in hope that a treatmtement will come in next 2 years.But it will take atleast 10 years for anything to come that is better than fina minoxidil etc.By that time all we cam do is save money because it is going to be expensive as hell

 

[That Guy]

I always love reading this part of the board, while you guys are all on here hoping and praying for the next magic cure (to reach phase III and then dissapear) because you are all too weak dicked or weak minded to take finasteride; I am taking finasteride daily and my hair is now regrowing quite nicely.

I take finasteride and minoxidil daily, advocate for people to do so, and still can realize that better solutions will be out over the next few years. What now?

You act as if the it's one or the other but it's not. You're here, which is all the proof anyone needs to see that aren't quite the skeptic you make yourself out to be. Well, that and to feed your ego, of course.

and another thing that makes me laugh, people mocking Brotzu and saying "it was always a joke"... how come before the bad press release you were all saying it was going to be a cure?

This kind of lie or fallacy at best has created somewhat of a Mandela effect among Hairloss forums.

It usually goes like this "Remember when you..." and then when the person or people in question don't remember, and ask people like you to quote them on it, you just never do. Because it didn't happen.

I've seen this many times regarding the Brotzu lotion. People accuse me of saying things like it was going to be better than Tsuji ffs, but guess what? I never, and I've checked, made any such claims. I maintained from the get-go that we'd have to wait and see if the claims about the ingredients were true, but at best I thought it could've been a suitable replacement for finasteride IF such were the case.

That doesn't stop people from being all "r3memburr whEN u weere champIonng durr Broughtzo.0 lowshun az a cur3!?"

Or you, coming into this thread and saying "you were all" when like, maybe a few people posting in this thread were actually hardcore on the "Brotzu" train.

 

[razzmatazz91]

Saw a video abt Replicel and the guy was saying it maybe available to only japnese at first.For it to commercialise in other countries it may take 5-7 years so .....

It really is 5-7 years

Source?

 

[Timii]

I wear hats so much dude, I'm an expressive guy that can't even style my hair according to how I feel. Everytime I'm in public it feels like the 1st day of school, but everday for me (3yrs now). I've just grown tired of worrying so much. I fear that if I'm NW2 feeling this way, what could happen if further loss occur. Only thing that honestly has me here is wondering how my family would take my absence. My mother has grown tired of hearing me complain, but she has no fcking idea how monstrous hairloss early is.

I'm in the exact same situation

 

[Ikkaku]

I'm wearing a hat everytime i go out.
I'm really tired of wear it lol.
4 years that is like that.

 

[Cue Bald]

If you give this advice to someone who’s depressed, then congratulations, you’ve committed felony cause he’s definitely gonna kill him self.

if somebody told me to take finasteride when I was a NW1 or I'd be a NW4 in just a few years, I'd be a lot less depressed than I am now because I'd have hair, and girls would have continued liking me instead of just ignoring me as they do now.

the depression of being bald trumps any depression finasteride may or may not give (it doesn't give any depression it is all placebo)

 

[BalderBaldyBald]

if somebody told me to take finasteride when I was a NW1 or I'd be a NW4 in just a few years, I'd be a lot less depressed than I am now because I'd have hair, and girls would have continued liking me instead of just ignoring me as they do now.

the depression of being bald trumps any depression finasteride may or may not give (it doesn't give any depression it is all placebo)

Latest Propecia's circular from Merck, 09/2013

https://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/p/propecia/propecia_ppi.pdf

depression;
decrease in sex drive that continued after stopping the medication;
problems with ejaculation that continued after stopping medication;
difficulty in achieving an erection that continued after stopping the medication;
male infertility and/or poor quality of semen.

Good Byyyyyeeee Mooooon Men, we say GOOOODDD BYYYYYYEEE MOOOOON MEN

 

[HairSuit]

if somebody told me to take finasteride when I was a NW1 or I'd be a NW4 in just a few years, I'd be a lot less depressed than I am now because I'd have hair, and girls would have continued liking me instead of just ignoring me as they do now.

the depression of being bald trumps any depression finasteride may or may not give (it doesn't give any depression it is all placebo)

Anyone who listens to this guy’s absolute statements is a fool. Probably, you may not get sides, if used for a short time. Sight chance of never. That chance drops way off the longer you use, when you come off of it. It causes far more than he is telling you. I was him for 13 years. I thought the sides were all hype. Then I got hammered. Be cautious.

 

[INT]

if somebody told me to take finasteride when I was a NW1 or I'd be a NW4 in just a few years, I'd be a lot less depressed than I am now because I'd have hair, and girls would have continued liking me instead of just ignoring me as they do now.

(it doesn't give any depression it is all placebo)

Hmm yeah sorry I'd rather believe independent research instead of your ego that is protecting finasteride

 

[ThinningPatience]

if somebody told me to take finasteride when I was a NW1 or I'd be a NW4 in just a few years, I'd be a lot less depressed than I am now because I'd have hair, and girls would have continued liking me instead of just ignoring me as they do now.

the depression of being bald trumps any depression finasteride may or may not give (it doesn't give any depression it is all placebo)

Tbh, I am not sure about depression but the amount of reported cases is enough to conclude that. However, I can guarantee you that persistent ed and infertility aren’t placebo effects. My father’s friend is a respected urologist and I trust his words. When I asked him about finasteride for alopecia he never mentioned depression or the foggy thing I read online or any other side. But he mentioned infertility as the most concerning side followed by ed. He told me to refrain from taking finasteride and he couldn’t stress that enough.

One last thing: if you’re not seeing sides even for years, doesn’t mean they’re not coming for you. Even if they never come, just remember you’re f*****g up your hormones and your body have to adjust to that, hopefully not in a negative way.