HGH (Injectible growth hormone). Thoughts?

[td241]

OK, so I have been really interested in HGH recently. It's an injectible amino acid (it is not a steroid) that various athletes, celebrities, etc. use for performance enhancement and anti-aging. A NEJM article cites its anti-aging properties and it made quite a spectacle in 1990 when it was released. The article seems to say, but not explicitly and with a dose of skepticism, that GH is a veritable fountain of youth.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199007053230109

From my research, growth hormone (GH) begins to decline at about 25-35 years old, depending on the study (and probably depending on the person. I kept on digging around, and Wikipedia has some interesting information on the symptoms of GH deficiency in adults:

Recognised effects include:
Increased 5-alpha-reductase
Reduced sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG)
Reduced muscle mass and strength
Baldness in men
Reduced bone mass and osteoporosis
Reduced quality of life, particularly energy levels
Impaired concentration and loss of memory
Increased body fat, particularly around the waistline
Lipid abnormalities, particularly raised LDL cholesterol
Insulin resistance
Increased levels of fibrinogen and plasminogen activator inhibitor
Cardiac dysfunction, including a thickened intima media
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone_deficiency#In_adulthood

Has someone pointed out this ostensible connection before? The time our bodies begin to produce less GH is about the time men frequently begin the stages of male pattern baldness, and a GH deficient adult apparently produces more 5AR.

Furthermore, some users on forums (I know, I know, anecdotal evidence, grain of salt, etc.) shows people reporting hair regrowth after using GH supplementation:

Users in this bodybuilding forum thread have good things to say http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/hair-growth-test-hgh-wtf-445025.html

Whereas in this thread of the same forum, not so much (it's kind of funny): http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabo ... 10419.html

Doing a Google Discussions search yields a lot of results... Much contradictory, much from meatheads who also "run" (that's the term) various testosterone injections. While they do occasionally mention hair, it's not their main focus, so take that into account when reading the forums. It's a very interesting subculture, and probably related to ours here... It's people talking about how to overcome nature to look their best.

Check it out! Anyone with experience or intimiate knowledge, please contribute! I ordered some HGH for injection (before found out about the deficiency being a cause for baldness. Remember, any supplement/cream/pill is a scam, HGH works by injection only) and will keep everyone posted. Even if you're not interested in acquiring some, the controversy on the internets is wildly entertaining.

Before your berate me, please remember that this is the Experimental Treatments forum.

 

[MadMartigan]

You should check out GH-releasing peptides, GHRP-6 combined with CJC-1295.

GHRP-2 if you can afford. Still, they are much cheaper than exogen GH.

I think that GH can have some benefits, but it can speed the growth of a tumour too.

 

[td241]

I have been researching this ad nauseam and there are just as many studies citing injectible HGH as having anti-cancerous properties as there are that cite it having cancer-accelerating properties.

I'm just surprised that no one has really made any threads about it... After all, the wikipedia article states that GH deficiency (our levels of GH decline rapidly after puberty, and continue to do so until we die) causes an increase of 5AR and states a deficiency side-effect as "baldness in men".

Hopefully those with experience will chime in!

 

[hairhoper]

This is one in the area of "I'd be willing to give it a go if I could get hold of it!". Guessing it is pretty damn illegal. Sadface.

 

[zayin]

nah, it's not that hard to get...but it's quite expensive! Havent heard many success stories regarding hair growth though...

 

[td241]

@monty: that's cool! more good news. I need to hear that these days. what was his reason for getting started on it?

@hairhopper: i'm not sure if it is illegal or not... but plenty of people get it. At sites like eroids.com, people discuss procuring it, and "source" reviews, etc. They also seem to have the only dedicated hgh forum I could find on the internet, but that forum is new. It's a pretty good information source, although people there are using it for a different purpose.

@zayin: with the amount i intend to use, it looks like it's going to run me about $125 a month. However, HGH isn't just for hair loss as you probably know. Research indicates it improves almost all aspects of the body—hair, skin, nails, muscle tone, fat stores, erections, mood, sleep, and overall quality of life—dramatically. I'm willing to forego a few other things to experiment with it a bit. It's a long-term commitment, though.

Mine allegedly shipped the 2nd of November and was supposed to arrive the 12th, but so far, nothing. Apparently shipments do get seized from time to time. Lord knows i've ordered plenty of other prescription medications from the internet without issue before... not sure what's going on.

 

[ice2613]

so how much do you need to inject? is it daily? and where would you inject it?

 

[td241]

so how much do you need to inject? is it daily? and where would you inject it?

ice, here's a great post about HGH that should answer most of your questions. I'm still researching it a bit.

http://www.musclechemistry.com/upload/i ... e-hgh.html

 

[MarkMayISAWESOME]

I have been researching this ad nauseam and there are just as many studies citing injectible HGH as having anti-cancerous properties as there are that cite it having cancer-accelerating properties.

I'm just surprised that no one has really made any threads about it... After all, the wikipedia article states that GH deficiency (our levels of GH decline rapidly after puberty, and continue to do so until we die) causes an increase of 5AR and states a deficiency side-effect as "baldness in men".

Hopefully those with experience will chime in!

Lyle Alzado thought the same thing.

 

[rill]

OK, so I have been really interested in HGH recently. It's an injectible amino acid it is not a steroid.

Isnt human growht hormone a hormone produced within the body and illegal to inject in most countries?
It has some great benefits though

 

[td241]

OK, so I have been really interested in HGH recently. It's an injectible amino acid it is not a steroid.

Isnt human growht hormone a hormone produced within the body and illegal to inject in most countries?
It has some great benefits though

It is produced by the pituitary gland. Injecting it isn't illegal--there are "anti aging" clinics all over the country that basically exist to prescribe it. It is not allowed in competitive sports, however. Procuring it is questionable--but no more or less than getting other drugs, like finasteride and dutasteride from overseas pharmacies. It is also used to treat children that are not growing adequately. The link I posted about about HGH is very informative; check it out.

 

[td241]

I have a friend who uses hgh and seems to think it is helping with his hair loss!

Also, Monty, keep us updated with your friend's progress if you can!

 

[rill]

OK, so I have been really interested in HGH recently. It's an injectible amino acid it is not a steroid.

Isnt human growht hormone a hormone produced within the body and illegal to inject in most countries?
It has some great benefits though

It is produced by the pituitary gland. Injecting it isn't illegal--there are "anti aging" clinics all over the country that basically exist to prescribe it. It is not allowed in competitive sports, however. Procuring it is questionable--but no more or less than getting other drugs, like finasteride and dutasteride from overseas pharmacies. It is also used to treat children that are not growing adequately. The link I posted about about HGH is very informative; check it out.

Correct me if Im wrong (wich I propably am ) but isnt it illegal without a prescription, I know it is in many european countries.
For example testosterone is legal when prescribed by a doctor when you have deficiency or some other hormonal imbalance but most times illegal when bought on the black market.

Also when injected, is there any chance of shutting down the bodys natural production of hgh, I think this is the reason why bodybuilders cycle hgh and test products.

 

[td241]

Lyle Alzado thought the same thing.

Lyle Alzado took a ton of anabolic steroids (which hgh is not) and his growth hormone was harvested from human cadabbers (which hgh is no longer). The latter opens the possibility of acquiring multiple diseases. But not any longer.

He also had a ton of hair.

As for the other question, no, taking hgh will not alter the body's own production. The feedback loop just isn't there. Some play it safe, doing 5 days on, 2 days off. All the info is in the link I posted on page 1.

 

[MarkMayISAWESOME]

Lyle Alzado thought the same thing.

Lyle Alzado took a ton of anabolic steroids (which hgh is not) and his growth hormone was harvested from human cadabbers (which hgh is no longer). The latter opens the possibility of acquiring multiple diseases. But not any longer.

He also had a ton of hair.

As for the other question, no, taking hgh will not alter the body's own production. The feedback loop just isn't there. Some play it safe, doing 5 days on, 2 days off. All the info is in the link I posted on page 1.

Do you have a link to the source of Alzado's HGH? I just know that his doctors pointed to his HGH intake as a probable source of his cancer. He also had thinning hair even before he became sick with cancer.

Use injectable HGH carefully and only under a doctors supervision.

 

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What does this have to do with this thread?

 

[td241]

Do you have a link to the source of Alzado's HGH? I just know that his doctors pointed to his HGH intake as a probable source of his cancer. He also had thinning hair even before he became sick with cancer.

Use injectable HGH carefully and only under a doctors supervision.

It says so on his Wikipedia page. Also, this is the experimental treatments page. This thread is for grown adults who are interested in hgh, using hgh, or may personally know someone who is.

 

[MarkMayISAWESOME]

Do you have a link to the source of Alzado's HGH? I just know that his doctors pointed to his HGH intake as a probable source of his cancer. He also had thinning hair even before he became sick with cancer.

Use injectable HGH carefully and only under a doctors supervision.

It says so on his Wikipedia page. Also, this is the experimental treatments page. This thread is for grown adults who are interested in hgh, using hgh, or may personally know someone who is.

Yeah it is the experimental section. But if you are injecting yourself with HGH from the black market as opposed to having using it under a doctors supervision and with continued monitoring while you are using it is being foolish. And that's putting it kindly. Also, if you are under the age of 40 it's pretty unlikely you need additional HGH. Again you would need blood work to determine this.

 

[jasonlv]

Do you have a link to the source of Alzado's HGH? I just know that his doctors pointed to his HGH intake as a probable source of his cancer. He also had thinning hair even before he became sick with cancer.

Use injectable HGH carefully and only under a doctors supervision.

It says so on his Wikipedia page. Also, this is the experimental treatments page. This thread is for grown adults who are interested in hgh, using hgh, or may personally know someone who is.

Yeah it is the experimental section. But if you are injecting yourself with HGH from the black market as opposed to having using it under a doctors supervision and with continued monitoring while you are using it is being foolish. And that's putting it kindly. Also, if you are under the age of 40 it's pretty unlikely you need additional HGH. Again you would need blood work to determine this.

I personally feel that HGH is far less risky than drugs like finasteride or dutasteride. HGH is a bioidentical hormone.

As far as I know, HGH isn't a federally controlled substance either. It is restricted (RX only). Unless you're ordering enough to "distribute" (i.e., conspiracy to distribute), legally, you should be fine. At the worst, it would just be confiscated by customs.

 

[td241]

Look at this everybody. HGH causes the body to release igf-1. Higher igf-1 levels correlate with enhanced efficacy of finasteride:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12894070