Hitting my annual yearly low - just need to vent

[Isaac Newton]

I can't even relate to any of those threads with the loser/defeatist mentality and Patrick Bateman type personalities lol, getting girls isn't really hard

Also swingline is cool and DEFINITELY not an incel , hes been around forever. Iirc basically he settled for his current gf, and he wants better but he is tied to her cuz of financial reasons

As someone who know many guys who have settled it's probably just as bad if not WORSE than being incel. I knew a short skinny bald guy like myself who got with this woman who was legit wrinkled and looked 40 something. Yea id rather be f*****g alone lol

 

[Isaac Newton]

That does happen but it's rare and you don't known how they behave with girls truly either. I don't think you are the best to judge their personality either no offence On here, based on my experience I never saw someone so ugly that will repel all girls, in fact some of the so called incels were even good looking with a full head of hair. But aside from the mental issue, wanting an attractive girl also plays a role, if you're a 5, should probably stop dreaming of an 8 for example, unless you luck out but even then it's probably not going to rock her world the same way. I think that part is hard, need all types of chemistry in a relationship but better to find someone similar in looks who likes your personality too.

Thats why hair loss sucks so bad. Your reasonable expectation of looks pre hair loss is now suddenly unreasonable

 

[I wont lose this]

There are guys in their late 20's/early 30's who are still into gaming, Pokemon, Marvel, wear mommy clothes and listen to music that scares away girls

What does your music taste, your style and your hobbies have to do with anything? If someone dumps you after a date because they found out you listen to Death Metal they are just showing how shallow they are.

I've already dated a christian girl in the past and she was aware of my hobbies and tastes. I admit I was kinda nervous to tell her what I liked but her reaction was simply "Oh cool, I listen to xyz and like to do 123 on my free time". She was really sweet, we just didn't move forward with our relationship because we both were still in love with our exes. Just proves that if man and woman are willing to get in a relationship, they will no matter what.

Now your statement has got me curious... what kind of music do YOU listen to?

 

[Diffused_confidence]

What does your music taste, your style and your hobbies have to do with anything? If someone dumps you after a date because they found out you listen to Death Metal they are just showing how shallow they are.

I've already dated a christian girl in the past and she was aware of my hobbies and tastes. I admit I was kinda nervous to tell her what I liked but her reaction was simply "Oh cool, I listen to xyz and like to do 123 on my free time". She was really sweet, we just didn't move forward with our relationship because we both were still in love with our exes. Just proves that if man and woman are willing to get in a relationship, they will no matter what.

Now your statement has got me curious... what kind of music do YOU listen to?

No woman is willing to be in a relationship with a subhuman bald man.

 

[We Move]

Thats why hair loss sucks so bad. Your reasonable expectation of looks pre hair loss is now suddenly unreasonable

It really is sudden as well. It's one thing to be looking back & comparing yourself to your pictures from a decade ago with a sense of shock, but it's quite another to be doing so when said pictures are from 12 months ago.

f*****g comical to hear people pretend that hair loss doesn't matter when the first advice anyone looking to improve their appearance gets is: "gEt a nEw hAircUt".

 

[Baldingat188]

Im definetly above average in the looks department, tall fairly broad shoulders and masculine face. So i would definetly be "fine" however everyone looks better with hair no doubt. But i really dont mind going for a hairsystem, however i would do it in a smooth transition, going for it before i lose too much hair. Have you considered hairsystems instead?

Well in that case you are lucky tbh I think as long as your average looking looks don’t matter that much. Unless your someone who is very concerned with appearance, go for the hair system. But if your just a typical masculine looking dude I’d say save yourself the stress and just focusing on the cliche working out / lifestyle maxing.

yes I have also considered hair systems. If I ever quit finasteride I will likley need to use them to have anything close to a normal life. Hair systems do look good but it sure doesn’t sound fun. Constantly worrying, repairs, guilt of deception, etc. but might be worth it if I could actually experience sexual attraction again… I don’t know. The main reason I take finasteride is for myself not to “get laid” but still, kinda feels like a waste since I’m asexual now basically. Even if someone shows intrest in me I would not reciprocate just for fear of if things ever turned sexual.

 

[justinbieberscombover]

You're totally right except for the part about childish or weird hobbies . Its normal to be a nerd nowadays

What does your music taste, your style and your hobbies have to do with anything? If someone dumps you after a date because they found out you listen to Death Metal they are just showing how shallow they are.

I've already dated a christian girl in the past and she was aware of my hobbies and tastes. I admit I was kinda nervous to tell her what I liked but her reaction was simply "Oh cool, I listen to xyz and like to do 123 on my free time". She was really sweet, we just didn't move forward with our relationship because we both were still in love with our exes. Just proves that if man and woman are willing to get in a relationship, they will no matter what.

Now your statement has got me curious... what kind of music do YOU listen to?

I was just talking sh*t, no need to take me seriously.

 

[justinbieberscombover]

Also swingline is cool and DEFINITELY not an incel , hes been around forever. Iirc basically he settled for his current gf, and he wants better but he is tied to her cuz of financial reasons

As someone who know many guys who have settled it's probably just as bad if not WORSE than being incel. I knew a short skinny bald guy like myself who got with this woman who was legit wrinkled and looked 40 something. Yea id rather be f*****g alone lol

Yeah settling f*****g sucks

 

[Wolf Pack]

Thats why hair loss sucks so bad. Your reasonable expectation of looks pre hair loss is now suddenly unreasonable

Yes it's a sad reality unless someone ticks all the boxes to pull off the bald look, even then it tends to attract niche girls. I've said it before, I would be screwed without my hair, though I don't need it anymore in life except to "feel good" or look the part. I was hit on hard by a 20 year old girl the other day who knew I was in a relationship and it was the first time we met, without good hair and a hairline I doubt it would happen, also had to explain I am much older as she didn't believe it. I thought of you as she loved anime and gaming a lot haha which I had no clue about, you would have been in your element. She said we could game and chill or whatever anytime at hers, no doubt I would lose in every game! I've always preferred princess type of girls with feminine interests/clothes or the alpha female look but with style - both are trendy on Insta.

 

[Diffused_confidence]

Yes it's a sad reality unless someone ticks all the boxes to pull off the bald look, even then it tends to attract niche girls. I've said it before, I would be screwed without my hair, though I don't need it anymore in life except to "feel good" or look the part. I was hit on hard by a 20 year old girl the other day who knew I was in a relationship and it was the first time we met, without good hair and a hairline I doubt it would happen, also had to explain I am much older as she didn't believe it. I thought of you as she loved anime and gaming a lot haha which I had no clue about, you would have been in your element. She said we could game and chill or whatever anytime at hers, no doubt I would lose in every game! I've always preferred princess type of girls with feminine interests/clothes or the alpha female look but with style - both are trendy on Insta.

Women don't care about your actual age, they care about how old you look. If you are 18 at Norwood 5 then you are "older" than a 40 year old with Norwood 2. Every 21 year old woman would take the younger looking 40 year old over the 21 year old Norwood 5 all other things being equal.

 

[Wolf Pack]

Women don't care about your actual age, they care about how old you look. If you are 18 at Norwood 5 then you are "older" than a 40 year old with Norwood 2. Every 21 year old woman would take the younger looking 40 year old over the 21 year old Norwood 5 all other things being equal.

That's literally what my girl told me when I described the events and she weirdly also predicted the follow up messages of said girl lmao. I guess some faces just look younger for unknown reasons (hence the term mature or childish faces) but hair and skin play a massive role as well. I have no greys yet, full head and naturally a young looking face, with or without a beard, makes zero difference. My barber clean shaved me the other day and put some highlights on top, it's quite a refreshing look, also enjoy my girl shaving me since its relaxing as hell but I will get back to my light stubble now. Working out helps a lot, I have a 6 pack now and toned body, even if I am not overly muscular you can see my shape in the clothes I wear. Every guy needs to get fit.

Sometimes I see an older woman; no wrinkles, good hair, style but I know she's older, not in a bad way, she's hot but her age is revealed by a mature face. Same time I see a girl who is young but signs of ageing yet I know she's young. This shows it is not all dependent on hair/skin. I think even with a bald head and greys I would look young but they would think "poor guy is aging fast in his 20s" so hair loss is not the only criteria, you just feel that due to hair loss. What really gets me these days is MILFs, initially she's thinking he's younger and not in her age range but once she realises I am, they are curious.

Always good to show the hairline over grandpa combovers, good clothes and my barber said he leaves some salt and pepper on top, once big signs of aging come in whether in 30s or 50s for the guys aging well. Arnie kept colouring and eventually he looked like a weird corpse over the natural look despite showing a nice hair frame and reasonable thickness. Extreme example but holds true, Travolta with his painted wig looked bad too yet the Clooney look is attractive to many younger girls. If you get a good frontal surgical frame and maintain the rest, it's more than enough, rest will come down to other attributes. I think I shared a vid with you once of a mature hairline with Dr Feriduni which you liked, conservative but all that is needed.

 

[Wolf Pack]

I was just talking sh*t, no need to take me seriously.

Also swingline is cool and DEFINITELY not an incel , hes been around forever. Iirc basically he settled for his current gf, and he wants better but he is tied to her cuz of financial reasons

As someone who know many guys who have settled it's probably just as bad if not WORSE than being incel. I knew a short skinny bald guy like myself who got with this woman who was legit wrinkled and looked 40 something. Yea id rather be f*****g alone lol

Only read this now.

Swing is definitely really cool from his posts and everything he has shared, I remember him well even if my memory is almost non existent on new members. Isaac explained it really well - the source of the frustration is due to those factors. Swing had everything (looks and personality) but hair loss and aging came fast whereas his prettyboy brother got it easy all these years - he showed me once too and he doesn't even workout. And settling will add further frustration, never easy losing your looks especially prematurely but being in a relationship which is not exactly what he wants is going to pour more salt into the wounds. You can say he had some good years being attractive in the way he wished but it's hard to live off the past and can also further remind you of what once was. I think he's doing well as he hasn't vented for ages so probably has mostly made peace, he has a ton of hobbies to be into and a lot to be grateful for. I'm sure being in really good shape (top 10% even among big gym guys) must help him a fair bit.

Justinbieber doesn't know him the way we do so jumped the gun but he's one of the most adjusted guys on here so would get it totally.

And @justinbieberscombover I actually agree with what you said about music, hobbies and gaming. While everyone is entitled to do whatever they want and that is what makes life and interactions interesting, you've realised one of the reasons for your success in dating is overall going for a mainstream look. It has a wider net as it's what most girls look for, a version of an insta guy basically with hair and a certain style - but you also had the prerequisites in looks and genetic personality to pull it off. Also gaming and certain types of music that you mentioned may be okay for adjusted guys but for incels it can be an introverted escape and actually makes socialising and reality even harder. Imagine hanging around with typical lads and girls, gym, boxing, outdoor runs, drinking, eventually it will build character. Of course it doesn't have to be one or another but I do agree with you on drawbacks of alternativeness. Some of my friends play games but I guess in a more social way and it's not the only thing they are into.

 

[Isaac Newton]

yes I have also considered hair systems. If I ever quit finasteride I will likley need to use them to have anything close to a normal life.

dude , to this day you haven't posted any actual pics of hair loss.

 

[Baldingat188]

dude , to this day you haven't posted any actual pics of hair loss.

I have posted them before but the issue is that if I quit finasteride my hair would likley get bad very quickly. I have minor diffuse right now but my family history tells me it wouldn’t stay minor for long if I got off finasteride… sucks though.

 

[Isaac Newton]

I have posted them before but the issue is that if I quit finasteride my hair would likley get bad very quickly. I have minor diffuse right now but my family history tells me it wouldn’t stay minor for long if I got off finasteride… sucks though.

Literally where have you posted them??? Lmao link me

 

[Wolf Pack]

Literally where have you posted them??? Lmao link me

If I remember well, he's a fullhead with some minor hairline thinning and blondeish. I could be getting him confused though.

 

[Isaac Newton]

If I remember well, he's a fullhead with some minor hairline thinning and blondeish. I could be getting him confused though.

I remember seeing a total nw1 lol. Maybe there mightve been some thinning u wud need a microscope for tho lmao

 

[Wolf Pack]

I remember seeing a total nw1 lol. Maybe there mightve been some thinning u wud need a microscope for tho lmao

Lol I think we have the right guy then with all of his native hair there. It's always good to see faces/hair so it puts it all into perspective. Some have awareness though so they know it's BDD/obsession, I will say though hairline asymmetry can affect a face but it's not that bad in early stages at all. Swing does have real hair loss and a higher hairline with transplanted hairs spread out, so even if he's older I can see how the hairline and overall hair would bother him at times.

Saving up for surgery still? If you're a candidate you will get a cosmetic improvement, even from buzzing it all after the transplants. Smallish head if I remember right so 5-6k grafts in the right hands will go a long way.

 

[Isaac Newton]

Lol I think we have the right guy then with all of his native hair there. It's always good to see faces/hair so it puts it all into perspective. Some have awareness though so they know it's BDD/obsession, I will say though hairline asymmetry can affect a face but it's not that bad in early stages at all. Swing does have real hair loss and a higher hairline with transplanted hairs spread out, so even if he's older I can see how the hairline and overall hair would bother him at times.

Saving up for surgery still? If you're a candidate you will get a cosmetic improvement, even from buzzing it all after the transplants. Smallish head if I remember right so 5-6k grafts in the right hands will go a long way.

I was referring to baldingat18. Ive never seen a pic of visible hair loss from him

And yea

 

[Wolf Pack]

I was referring to baldingat18. Ive never seen a pic of visible hair loss from him

And yea

me too