How Finasteride Has Destroyed My Life

[Ryan2310]

Yes, it's impossible to get PFS from a single pill. Impossible. No single way. Not happening, ever, on any single human on Earth. Not one of the dozens of millions of men who have taken Finasteride got PFS by taking one pill.

Why? Because science has rules. One pill of Finasteride lowers your DHT a 0.01%.

That figure is a stat that's actually official in Europe. So yes, it's a survey.

I could easily get a few members from propeciahelp that can testify that they have got debilitating sides from a single pill and haven’t recovered even years later.

Please send the “official survey” can’t wait to see these so called stats because I know for a fact they don’t exist and European physicians do not promote the use of finasteride in young men.

One pill of finasteride does not lower DHT at 0.01% it lowers it by 70% for up to two weeks.

 

[Inigo1202]

Source? Also don't forget that it does not lower DHT directly. It does so but lowering 5 AR which is still not very well understood.

https://aedv.es/finasteride-seguro-y-eficaz-contra-la-alopecia-tratamientos/

Official statment of the College of Dermatologists in Spain, regarding Finasteride. All dermatologists in Spain are colleged.

I wasn't talking about the 0.01%, that's a figure of speech. One pill of Finasteride doesn't do anything on your body. Literally. 1 mg is too small for that.

Not even one pill of Proscar has any effect on it. And Proscar is 5 mg. It's doesn't do sh*t.

 

[Ryan2310]

Look buddy, see? That's the f*****g problem. You "lived" in Madrid and talk about "insurances". LOL.

Healthcare system in Spain is free. You can visit as many doctors as you want, and don't pay a single coin. This is not the USA (thankfully).

And insurances exist, but there's not really need for them. Private healthcare system in Spain depends on the public one.

The last statement is so stupid I'm not gonna even answer it. Finasteride is among the 5 most common meds sold in Spain. Because it's actually really cheap. 15 euros a month, more or less.

I’m fully aware of the healthcare system over there. There is also a waiting list to see a dermatologist as I had eczema there and it took weeks to see one. Unless you had private insurance to access all these specialists who were all supposedly promoting finasteride then I’d safely say you’re talking out of your backside.

 

[washed_up]

If your urologist, or any other doctor, is saying you got floaters in your eyes from one finasteride pill they should have their license revoked.

I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to most side effect claims even when the cause-effect relationship is tough to establish but that is just too far.

 

[INT]

https://aedv.es/finasteride-seguro-y-eficaz-contra-la-alopecia-tratamientos/

Official statment of the College of Dermatologists in Spain, regarding Finasteride. All dermatologists in Spain are colleged.

I wasn't talking about the 0.01%, that's a figure of speech. One pill of Finasteride doesn't do anything on your body. Literally. 1 mg is too small for that.

Not even one pill of Proscar has any effect on it. And Proscar is 5 mg. It's doesn't do sh*t.

If you claim that one pill of finasteride does not do anything in the body,I want to see a source for that. I did not see it in the source you just sent.

 

[Inigo1202]

I’m fully aware of the healthcare system over there. There is also a waiting list to see a dermatologist as I had eczema there and it took weeks to see one. Unless you had private insurance to access all these specialists who were all supposedly promoting finasteride then I’d safely say you’re talking out of your backside.

Buddy I've already shown you the official position of the College of Dermatologist of Spain about Finasteride. They all recommend it. All. Because all dermatologists are colleged. It's not possible to work as one and not be. And they are not stupid. They have actually studied to be doctors. They know how Finasteride works. It's really easy to know how it works. It's not even considered a hormone treatment.

Weeks to see a doctor in Spain? Hahahahaha. Okay.

This is the last comment I'm doing. Because everyone here knows already that you are lying. I could post a hundred different official statements of urologists, dermatologists, Ministry of Healthcare, etc. I'm not gonna do it because you have Internet and access to all of them. Just google them. You are 1 sec away from reading the opinions of the dermatologists of the country that has the most bald men in the entire world. See wht they think about PFS. And Finasteride.

Bye buddy. Take care of you PFS. You are pretty much dead by the end of the year at this rate.

 

[Ryan2310]

If your urologist, or any other doctor, is saying you got floaters in your eyes from one finasteride pill they should have their license revoked.

I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to most side effect claims even when the cause-effect relationship is tough to establish but that is just too far.

I think you should pay a visit to propeciahelp were you will find various people with floaters in their eyes because of finasteride usage. You should have your opinion revoked especially if you cannot comprehend that this drug can cause various side effects that mess around with brain chemistry.

 

[Ryan2310]

Buddy I've already shown you the official position of the College of Dermatologist of Spain about Finasteride. They all recommend it. All. Because all dermatologists are colleged. It's not possible to work as one and not be. And they are not stupid. They have actually studied to be doctors. They know how Finasteride works. It's really easy to know how it works. It's not even considered a hormone treatment.

Weeks to see a doctor in Spain? Hahahahaha. Okay.

This is the last comment I'm doing. Because everyone here knows already that you are lying. I could post a hundred different official statements of urologists, dermatologists, Ministry of Healthcare, etc. I'm not gonna do it because you have Internet and access to all of them. Just google them. You are 1 sec away from reading the opinions of the dermatologists of the country that has the most bald men in the entire world. See wht they think about PFS. And Finasteride.

Bye buddy. Take care of you PFS. You are pretty much dead by the end of the year at this rate.

Yes it took weeks to see a specialist, you have to go through a doctor then get a referral.

This is the only study people should be reading.

Neuroactive steroid levels and psychiatric and andrological features in post-finasteride patients.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28408350/


“Bye buddy. Take care of you PFS. You are pretty much dead by the end of the year at this rate.”

Thanks a lot man, I really appreciate your advice you seem like a lovely individual.

 

[Baldy12345]

1 pill...? Cmon now.

 

[justbeconfident]

I mean that's just plain retarded to say you got pfs from one finasteride pill. I mean hypothetically it's possible but you gotta be the only single male on planet earth with that.

 

[Ryan2310]

1 pill...? Cmon now.

Yes ONE pill

 

[washed_up]

I think you should pay a visit to propeciahelp were you will find various people with floaters in their eyes because of finasteride usage. You should have your opinion revoked especially if you cannot comprehend that this drug can cause various side effects that mess around with brain chemistry.

Here's a thread where a guy claims he got floaters on finasteride, stopped using finasteride, and then they went away. That's literally impossible, floaters don't go away without surgical procedures.

http://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t1822-eye-floaters

 

[Inigo1202]

If you claim that one pill of finasteride does not do anything in the body,I want to see a source for that. I did not see it in the source you just sent.

What do you mean you did not see it? Of course you did not see it. No one has done any study on it because it hasn't happened to any human ever. There's no need to do a study about what happens when you take one pill of Finasteride. Because nothing happens.

1 mg of Finasteride doesn't do anything on your body. It starts a process that takes months to actually start. But you have to take one, every day, for at least 3 months to have any effect on your body. And that's the quickest. It's actually around 6-8 months. 1 year to see the full effect on your body.

Men in Spain have been doing Finasteride since 1997. 22 years in a row. 95% of them are perfectly fine. The other 5% had side effects and stopped taking it. All of them ceased to have side effects after that. And you can read that.

PFS is not even taken seriously here. Urologists laugh at you when you mention it. I can tell because it happened to me. I was afraid of it. They all explained the same thing: studies of PFS are not taken seriously because they do not follow the scientific method. They are not even "studies".

 

[Ryan2310]

I mean that's just plain retarded to say you got pfs from one finasteride pill. I mean hypothetically it's possible but you gotta be the only single male on planet earth with that.

Nope, I met a guy from America studying to be a physiotherapist who was hit from one pill this year and his physical sides are really unbelievable his whole skin has just eroded as he made a video and posted on propeciahelp. There is many others who only took a single pill and have had their lives destroyed by it.

 

[Ryan2310]

What do you mean you did not see it? Of course you did not see it. No one has done any study on it because it hasn't happened to any human ever. There's no need to do a study about what happens when you take one pill of Finasteride. Because nothing happens.

1 mg of Finasteride doesn't do anything on your body. It starts a process that takes months to actually start. But you have to take one, every day, for at least 3 months to have any effect on your body. And that's the quickest. It's actually around 6-8 months. 1 year to see the full effect on your body.

Men in Spain have been doing Finasteride since 1997. 22 years in a row. 95% of them are perfectly fine. The other 5% had side effects and stopped taking it. All of them ceased to have side effects after that. And you can read that.

PFS is not even taken seriously here. Urologists laugh at you when you mention it. I can tell because it happened to me. I was afraid of it. They all explained the same thing: studies of PFS are not taken seriously because they do not follow the scientific method. They are not even "studies".

This is just your personal opinion nothing more than that. Finasteride doesn’t take months to kick in as you put it it starts working immediately in the body attaching itself to the millions of 5alpha reductase enzymes lowering DHT.

My Urologist took it very seriously and knows the dangers behind the drug that’s more than what I can say for you.

What do you mean the studies don’t follow the scientific method now you’re just mumbling absolutely garbage the studies were done by a prestigious university in Milan were they found that epigenetic changes were taking place because of finasteride.

 

[washed_up]

Nothing against propecia help forum as a whole because there are people there looking for help and giving help to others but it's also full of unresolved side effect claims that are difficult to link to one drug.

I don't think there's a single illness, condition, or disease that isn't mentioned on that site at least once. It's up to you, the individual, to sort through what's plausible and what's not.

 

[Ryan2310]

Here's a thread where a guy claims he got floaters on finasteride, stopped using finasteride, and then they went away. That's literally impossible, floaters don't go away without surgical procedures.

http://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t1822-eye-floaters

The floaters don’t go away but your brain get tired of looking at them and just ignores them after a certain period of time.

http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/Ophthalmology/glaucoma/Floaters.pdf

 

[washed_up]

The floaters don’t go away but your brain get tired of looking at them and just ignores them after a certain period of time.

http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/Ophthalmology/glaucoma/Floaters.pdf

The point of the post was that self-reporting is dubious and prone to all kinds of issues in perception. This guy was certain he had floaters and then they went away when he stopped taking the stuff he thought caused it.

 

[Ryan2310]

Nothing against propecia help forum as a whole because there are people there looking for help and giving help to others but it's also full of unresolved side effect claims that are difficult to link to one drug.

I don't think there's a single illness, condition, or disease that isn't mentioned on that site at least once. It's up to you, the individual, to sort through what's plausible and what's not.

Well all my side effects can be linked to finasteride as it was the only drug that I have taken in years and I started to display side effects within a couple of hours of taking it. The majority of those with PFS had no prior illness so in my opinion it’s safe to assume that finasteride was the cause of their illnesses as many of the side effects all correlate with one another and are all identical

 

[Inigo1202]

This is just your personal opinion nothing more than that. Finasteride doesn’t take months to kick in as you put it it starts working immediately in the body attaching itself to the millions of 5alpha reductase enzymes lowering DHT.

My Urologist took it very seriously and knows the dangers behind the drug that’s more than what I can say for you.

What do you mean the studies don’t follow the scientific method now you’re just mumbling absolutely garbage the studies were done by a prestigious university in Milan were they found that epigenetic changes were taking place because of finasteride.

"Finasteride starts working immediately."

Yeah buddy. Good luck with that. You don't know how hormones work. Nor hair.

As I said, take care. PFS is pretty serious haha.

That Milan study was used last year in the World Convention of Trichology (In Barcelona, Spain, my country) as the example of what happens when people don't follow the scientific method. Everyone laughed at it. Literally. There were jokes about it.