How is it even possible to date if you're not at least 8/10 and 6'3?

[Caillou]

I'm sorry I posted this, wasn't in the right state of mind

 

[KevinEdEddEddy]

Well it depends where do you meet women

 

[Caillou]

Well it depends where do you meet women

Online

 

[doubleindemnity]

I was thinking about this and wondering how guys who are similar to me but with no hair loss actually manage to get engaged. I thought about this for years and concluded that hair counts for a lot. @KevinEdEddEddy is an outlier and @justinbieberscombover got there through a good hair transplant. Without question, every other user on here with a good dating life is surely NW3 or less.

 

[Caillou]

I was thinking about this and wondering how guys who are similar to me but with no hair loss actually manage to get engaged. I thought about this for years and concluded that hair counts for a lot. @KevinEdEddEddy is an outlier and @justinbieberscombover got there through a good hair transplant. Without question, every other user on here with a good dating life is surely NW3 or less.

Hair isn't enough on it's own you also need exceptionally good looking face and height

 

[doubleindemnity]

Hair isn't enough on it's own you also need exceptionally good looking face and height

Are you sure about that? I see many average height guys that are just regular looking and they get engaged just fine. It seems like hair is enough on its own.

 

[Caillou]

Are you sure about that? I see many average height guys that are just regular looking and they get engaged just fine. It seems like hair is enough on its own.

Getting engaged/married doesn't count because marriages are doomed to fail in most cases and they don't mean that the women are attracted to their partner

 

[doubleindemnity]

Getting engaged/married doesn't count because marriages are doomed to fail in most cases and they don't mean that the women are attracted to their partner

But you have to date before getting engaged. I'm talking about being able to land a date and have it go well, not about having a successful marriage. Obviously, having a successful marriage takes more than hair and thinking about it is beyond most of us.

 

[Caillou]

But you have to date before getting engaged. I'm talking about being able to land a date and have it go well, not about having a successful marriage. Obviously, having a successful marriage takes more than hair and thinking about it is beyond most of us.

Women apply dual mating strategy when it comes to marriage with non-chads. They might agree to date and pretend they're interested and then marry because they want to settle down for whatever reason (to have you raise chad's kids, to get your money, to exploit you in some way, etc)

There's a reason most guys stay away from marriage and most marriages fail

 

[doubleindemnity]

Women apply dual mating strategy when it comes to marriage with non-chads. They might agree to date and pretend they're interested and then marry because they want to settle down for whatever reason (to have you raise chad's kids, to get your money, to exploit you in some way, etc)

There's a reason most guys stay away from marriage and most marriages fail

This is degenerate thinking. This whole idea of a woman having somebody else's children while married is not common at all. Most women say no to most men who want to marry them. It takes an attractive guy to change a woman around and the foundation of that attractiveness is hair. You have been reading too much incel.com . Go out and see. Most women want a monogamous connection to lead to marriage. THey don't want one with you or myself because of hair loss. It's much simpler than we think.

Most guys stay away from marriage because they either aren't interested in it or they aren't attractive enough to do it or they are sufficiently attractive that they have a better life without marriage (they get the cream without buying the cow etc.).

 

[Caillou]

This is degenerate thinking. This whole idea of a woman having somebody else's children while married is not common at all. Most women say no to most men who want to marry them. It takes an attractive guy to change a woman around and the foundation of that attractiveness is hair. You have been reading too much incel.com . Go out and see. Most women want a monogamous connection to lead to marriage. THey don't want one with you or myself because of hair loss. It's much simpler than we think.

Most guys stay away from marriage because they either aren't interested in it or they aren't attractive enough to do it or they are sufficiently attractive that they have a better life without marriage (they get the cream without buying the cow etc.).

Dude most women marry post their prime and they don't marry chads. There's a reason there are countless men on subreddits revolving about dead bedrooms, cuckolding, guys whining about their wives and marriages, etc. It's not some incel propaganda

And it's not about hair at all. My hair can be pretty good looking when styled right and doesn't appear balding at all, my face is defined and i have pretty eyes and i'm still invisible and unattractive to all women

 

[doubleindemnity]

Dude most women marry post their prime and they don't marry chads. There's a reason there are countless men on subreddits revolving about dead bedrooms, cuckolding, guys whining about their wives and marriages, etc. It's not some incel propaganda

And it's not about hair at all. My hair can be pretty good looking when styled right and doesn't appear balding at all, my face is defined and i have pretty eyes and i'm still invisible and unattractive to all women

If you have hair then you shouldn't be invisible or unattractive at all. Have you done all the other nonsense such as dressing up, being in shape? It's very rare to see a guy in moderate shape and moderately well dressed with hair getting no results. Obviously if you're bald then none of this applies; you won't overcome baldness.

Sure I am not disagreeing with you but we are talking about getting to marriage, not having a good one. We know very little about what makes a marriage succeed or fail, I would imagine. We are stuck at the phase of not being able to get dates. To get dates you sort your hair out and do all that other stuff. Beyond a date I have no idea.

 

[vondoom]

pretty simple answer: its possible and no big deal... easier than landing a job and usually also way less effort, unless you got nothing going on, then it might be some effort^^


if you do nothing but online dating, that is your own fault...

 

[Caillou]

If you have hair then you shouldn't be invisible or unattractive at all. Have you done all the other nonsense such as dressing up, being in shape? It's very rare to see a guy in moderate shape and moderately well dressed with hair getting no results. Obviously if you're bald then none of this applies; you won't overcome baldness.

Sure I am not disagreeing with you but we are talking about getting to marriage, not having a good one. We know very little about what makes a marriage succeed or fail, I would imagine. We are stuck at the phase of not being able to get dates. To get dates you sort your hair out and do all that other stuff. Beyond a date I have no idea.

I'm not saying hair doesn't matter since without hair you pretty much stand no chance at all, but all i'm saying is that hair isn't some magical cure to getting inside women's panties. It's a basic requirement that you must meet so that you're taken into consideration in the first place. But in most cases it won't get you women on it's own because most young men have hair anyway and you're not special for having hair as well

Also getting married for the sake of it sounds retarded to me considering the enormous amounts of money, time, emotions, responsibilities you have to spend as a married man, and if you're not a chad it still won't work anyway regardless what you do

 

[Caillou]

pretty simple answer: its possible and no big deal... easier than landing a job and usually also way less effort, unless you got nothing going on, then it might be some effort^^


if you do nothing but online dating, that is your own fault...

What's the difference between talking to women online and irl. And how do you even find women irl to talk to other than cold approaching because it's retarded

 

[LouisSarkozy]

brah it's so over tbh unless you're prime pitt or delon it's pointless to get involved in this game . even being GOOD looking isn't enough you need to be ultra good looking tier to enjoy this experience called life and dating

 

[doubleindemnity]

I'm not saying hair doesn't matter since without hair you pretty much stand no chance at all, but all i'm saying is that hair isn't some magical cure to getting inside women's panties. It's a basic requirement that you must meet so that you're taken into consideration in the first place. But in most cases it won't get you women on it's own because most young men have hair anyway and you're not special for having hair as well

Also getting married for the sake of it sounds retarded to me considering the enormous amounts of money, time, emotions, responsibilities you have to spend as a married man, and if you're not a chad it still won't work anyway regardless what you do

I'm not talking about getting married for the sake of it I'm just saying that if you look around at your peers, plenty with hair will be getting engaged or married. That's simply evidence that they were able to date effectively; that's all I'm saying.

 

[Caillou]

I'm not talking about getting married for the sake of it I'm just saying that if you look around at your peers, plenty with hair will be getting engaged or married. That's simply evidence that they were able to date effectively; that's all I'm saying.

Well yeah of course fullheads live in a completely different universe than baldcels but there are still plenty of unattractive fullheads around

 

[vondoom]

What's the difference between talking to women online and irl. And how do you even find women irl to talk to other than cold approaching because it's retarded

easy, online you first need to have a woman swipe in you before you can talk... in real life you can just talk, i always get into conversations just by accident for example...
you just go out to bars/concerts/whatever you like... thats what i always did (after everyone grew up and we didnt have parties anymore three times a week) and it works just fine... bet it also helps with social skills in general and you just get used to talk to randos...

cold approach is indeed retarded and i would say that never works out on the streets...

 

[DoctorHouse]

Dude most women marry post their prime and they don't marry chads. There's a reason there are countless men on subreddits revolving about dead bedrooms, cuckolding, guys whining about their wives and marriages, etc. It's not some incel propaganda

And it's not about hair at all. My hair can be pretty good looking when styled right and doesn't appear balding at all, my face is defined and i have pretty eyes and i'm still invisible and unattractive to all women

You need to find a good friend to do things with that involves women. I can tell you all the women I met involved an activity that I liked doing. You need to enroll in some college classes so you can meet women with the same interests. Your self esteem needs to change or you are going to be invisible. I won't lie and say height and hair does give you an advantage but there are some women out there that will find a guy like you attractive.

You have a decent personality and are very intelligent for your age. I live in an area where there are mostly short hispanics and some have just as good as hair as you do and they do well because they go out with friends where there are single women. Just make your number one goal to get out and meet new people just to talk to. You need to get of your shell and show these people how intelligent and worldly you are. You have so much potential you just don't realize it. I know Afro saw it too. And coming from him, that should mean alot to you.