How Long Do You Guys Think Till Hairloss Is Cured?

[cubsnation_]

Hey guys sorry if this is a very repetitive topic but what are your guys thoughts on when hairloss is going to be cured? Is it ever going to be? Is it going to be pill form, is it going to be expensive, is it going to be 20 years from now?

Interested to see all your guys thoughts/theories on this.

 

[kevin west]

相信tsuji.2020

 

[cubsnation_]

相信tsuji.2020

Mind giving a basic rundown for me?

 

[kevin west]

Mind giving a basic rundown for me?

http://www.organ-technol.co.jp

 

[abcdefg]

Hey guys sorry if this is a very repetitive topic but what are your guys thoughts on when hairloss is going to be cured? Is it ever going to be? Is it going to be pill form, is it going to be expensive, is it going to be 20 years from now?

Interested to see all your guys thoughts/theories on this.

There are probably a thousand old threads on this same exact debate no exaggeration. Honestly I have no clue how to even guess at this. We have known DHT plays a big role in male pattern baldness for 20 or 30 years. We have no stronger or better way of stopping androgens minus finasteride or dutasteride 25 years later. So just think about that before listening to people that say in the next year or two male pattern baldness will be solved.
Realistically its going to be a long time. However you want to interpret that is okay.

 

[Toby0823]

http://www.organ-technol.co.jp

Lmao wtf is this

OP just be prepared to grow old bald if you’re balding. Cure won’t be out for a very long time.

 

[abcdefg]

This is more general discussion than news or research

 

[cubsnation_]

There are probably a thousand old threads on this same exact debate no exaggeration. Honestly I have no clue how to even guess at this. We have known DHT plays a big role in male pattern baldness for 20 or 30 years. We have no stronger or better way of stopping androgens minus finasteride or dutasteride 25 years later. So just think about that before listening to people that say in the next year or two male pattern baldness will be solved.
Realistically its going to be a long time. However you want to interpret that is okay.

Why are people constantly saying that there will be a cure by 2020? Is it false hope? I think I’m starting to form a mature hairline so I would really prefer there to be a optimal cure in the next 10-15 years. (As I’m sure most others are)

 

[Ollie]

Why are people constantly saying that there will be a cure by 2020? Is it false hope? I think I’m starting to form a mature hairline so I would really prefer there to be a optimal cure in the next 10-15 years. (As I’m sure most others are)

There will be treatments in the form of maintenance + slight regrowth. Oral drugs being things like Setipiprant, and Fevipiprant. Alongside actual treatments like replicel (shiseido) that will basically act like a vaccination. As for taking a nw5 and giving them a full head of hair with a pill or topical - that could be a very long time.

The mechanisms of hairloss are still so unknown which is why companies are finding it more viable to take the stem cell route in an effort to sort of 'replicate' the nature of hair follicles that are resistant to the balding process - that way the mechanism doesn't even need to be fully understood.

However if you are Nw5 and want a full head of hair again then Tsuji is your best bet assuming it comes out like advertised.

 

[cubsnation_]

There will be treatments in the form of maintenance + slight regrowth. Oral drugs being things like Setipiprant, and Fevipiprant. Alongside actual treatments like replicel (shiseido) that will basically act like a vaccination. As for taking a nw5 and giving them a full head of hair with a pill or topical - that could be a very long time.

The mechanisms of hairloss are still so unknown which is why companies are finding it more viable to take the stem cell route in an effort to sort of 'replicate' the nature of hair follicles that are resistant to the balding process - that way the mechanism doesn't even need to be fully understood.

However if you are Nw5 and want a full head of hair again then Tsuji is your best bet assuming it comes out like advertised.

Very very informative stuff. I often feel like I loss hope for the future but this gave me a lot of hope. Thanks for the great info pal!

 

[THALL]

The thing is, MBP needs to be attacked from various angles (DHT, PGD2, and so on) , and there's no company aiming to treat them all at once, so we are far from a "one pill cure" Maybe the research Dr. Ky Choi is conducting will lead us somewhere close to that, but I wouldn't bet on it since as of today we don't really know anything about it. As of today, our best bet is Tsuji. It will be expensive as f***, but it's in fact a complete functional cure. They also seem to be right on track with the research so let's hope everything goes well.
Or maybe who knows, in 5 years a combination of seti/fevi, jak inhibitors, polichem (topical fina) and follicum will do the trick.

 

[kuba197]

Tsuji is not a cure. It is high density hair transplant. The real cure will be gene editing, sth that repair the cause of hairloss. So I think at least 35-50 years for Real Cure. Meantime there will be treatments and partial cures. But not in next 2-3 years.

 

[Xander94]

10 + years

 

[newplayer]

I remember back in 2010 when I started visiting these forums - it was supposed to be cured in 2013, 2015 at the LATEST.
We thought we'd have a gene editing tool in every cosmetic salon in 2020 and there will be autonomous cars and robot w****s... oh wait, some of these things exist

 

[Javell]

However if you are Nw5 and want a full head of hair again then Tsuji is your best bet assuming it comes out like advertised.

Why don't you mention wounding? There are people who regrew full head of hair with it and there are people who from NW7 regrew enough to have a decent buzz cut in 10 f*****g weeks.

There are studies that show effect on NW7 after 10 weeks, from them I could conclude that to regrow lots of hair (thin or thick NW2) for these people would take a long time (2-3 years), but it would cover everything, yes, every damn thing.

Get over it, Follica will kill transplants, transplant prices will drop. Now the question is, will it be permanent? I don't know, some people who regrow somee hairs with wounding report no loss on those hairs. The good news is that Follica could be repeated as many times as you'll want. I've seen wounding studies and the response of the patients consistently remained the same when they repeated the process.

Besides Follica could regenerate hair from transplants, even f*****g FUT scars. If the new hair it grows is not DHT resistant (but as explained to me the damage takes.many years to accumulate) this will be plan B. I see it as functional, yet flawed cure. Who knows what the results could be if.combined with Shiseido's.tech.

Follica is no Brotzu lotion.

 

[THALL]

Tsuji is not a cure. It is high density hair transplant. The real cure will be gene editing, sth that repair the cause of hairloss. So I think at least 35-50 years for Real Cure. Meantime there will be treatments and partial cures. But not in next 2-3 years.

I said Tsuji is basically a FUNCTIONAL cure, it's different. But the results are the same - hair on your head.

 

[Ollie]

Why don't you mention wounding? There are people who regrew full head of hair with it and there are people who from NW7 regrew enough to have a decent buzz cut in 10 f*****g weeks.

There are studies that show effect on NW7 after 10 weeks, from them I could conclude that to regrow lots of hair (thin or thick NW2) for these people would take a long time (2-3 years), but it would cover everything, yes, every damn thing.

Get over it, Follica will kill transplants, transplant prices will drop. Now the question is, will it be permanent? I don't know, some people who regrow somee hairs with wounding report no loss on those hairs. The good news is that Follica could be repeated as many times as you'll want. I've seen wounding studies and the response of the patients consistently remained the same when they repeated the process.

Besides Follica could regenerate hair from transplants, even f*****g FUT scars. If the new hair it grows is not DHT resistant (but as explained to me the damage takes.many years to accumulate) this will be plan B. I see it as functional, yet flawed cure. Who knows what the results could be if.combined with Shiseido's.tech.

Follica is no Brotzu lotion.

links to people regrowing a full head of hair from wounding ?

90% of people do not get that sort of response from wounding. I wound every 2 weeks 1.5-2mm depth, along with daily use of RU @ 5% and im still losing ground (albeit very slowly) - and i have fairly slow hair loss compared to some.

You can knock the Brotzu lotion but the homemade lotion results prove better than what most people have gotten from any other treatment.

 

[That Guy]

Never.

It will never be "cured" in the way most people imagine it to be.

Rather, it will become an easily-treatable condition that results in you either keeping and/or regrowing a full head of hair. You will still have the genes and such responsible for the alopecia pumping away, so you will still technically have the condition, but the symptoms will not manifest themselves.

Some hold hope for gene-editing to solve this; I am less optimistic about that and feel that it won't matter anyway.

But I do absolutely think that given how close they are to release, how solid the science behind it is, I am certain that within 3 or 4 years such technologies that would amount to a functional cure will at least be on the market.

90% of people do not get that sort of response from wounding. I wound every 2 weeks 1.5-2mm depth, along with daily use of RU @ 5% and im still losing ground (albeit very slowly) - and i have fairly slow hair loss compared to some

Because you have a controlled, laboratory environment, years of research, and a rigorous protocol, right?

 

[Ollie]

Because you have a controlled, laboratory environment, years of research, and a rigorous protocol, right?

No im making reference to the fact that wounding as we know it (leaning against a bathroom mirror with a dermapen in hand) hasn't proven to be overly beneficial to people.

 

[Javell]

No im making reference to the fact that wounding as we know it (leaning against a bathroom mirror with a dermapen in hand) hasn't proven to be overly beneficial to people.

Because people don't know the right way to do it imho. Those who succeed, succeed, end of story. Derma f*****g pen had even less testing than dermaroller. I'm not doing it myself since I'm not pro when dermarolling makes scars it won't grow jackshit. That's why Follica will show the right way.