Humans Do Nothing But Cope Because Life Is Suffering.

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Christ imagine if that was possible, we'd all be in jail.
it probably is possible. other organs get transplanted from other people, why not hair?
 

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Let's throw out some philosophy here.

I actually don't believe in what people call "love", not the word, but the actual meaning of it. We all know that life is suffering for anyone, but it differs from one to another and how people react to it and how much a person can take before he goes insane, but we all still suffer.

Why we suffer ? Because humans are sensitive beings who love drama, attention and willingly seek out for problems and because humans seek perfection and at the end of the day no one can achieve that.

Let's talk again about "love" and how i see it. My concept of love that it's a selfish desires everyone feel when they find a person that lessens their suffering in life, so they try their hardest to not lose that person because their suffering would dramatically increase.

Before you get mad and shout out at me ask yourselves this. Would you prefer to die before the person you "love" dies or die after they die ?

I know that 99% would prefer to die first.

Why ? Isn't the person going to die anyways ? Because if that person you love died first you would suffer and the role that person did in lessening your suffering would be over, but if you died first you would be dead anyways, so it wouldn't matter because you wont be hurt or suffer.

In conclusion we only care for ourselves at the end of the day and that's why i don't believe in "love" and the weird fantasy people delude themselves to believe is true.

I know that you would say that i'm coping because i can't get a relationship and you're not wrong, but even "love" and relationships are forms of coping with life and it's suffering, so i'm technically coping for not being able to cope better, because eventually everything humans do is a cope because human nature is strange and too weird to be fully understood.

For people who are mad because of this post, calm down this is the philosophy of a 18 years old and please don't quote the last part of my post about my age and say "that's your problem you're still young".
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naw for real though, thats a good observation that i've thought too in teh depths of baldcel misery: that "love" is inherently selfish. if you're into that sort of meta love you might like subversive romances like eternal sunshine, her, or 500 days of summer. beautiful intelligent movies about love that all made me cry lol
 

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Skin has the highest defences ,leading to transplant rejection and other reactions.
More than any organ or even bone marrow.
Im still crazy enough to consider trying

some copes that have been postulated by academics:
Lol, copes.

Sign of wisdom/maturity = more access to resources in a clan.
so basically a sign of being old.

more vitamin D from sunlight = less chance of prostate cancer
I didn't know this was true.

It offers no evolutionary benefit imo
yes exactly. but unlike about everything else in life, we can't make diet and lifestyle choices to help it!
 

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You are justifying your selfish intents. When you have a sexual relationship with a girl she's bound to get attached to you, it's in their nature. This girl fell in love with you and you never loved her back because you still love your old girlfriend, yet you kept seeing her because it pleases you in the short term.
If it was supposed to be a relationship without feelings she wouldn't be your girlfriend in the first place, she probably thought that you would change your mind about your old girlfriend. She might blame herself for not being good enough for you now that you broke it off with her to go back to your old girlfriend. Now you have made this girl broken hearted in the short term, and maybe miserable in the long term because she's always going to compare her new boyfriends to you. You might have ruined her next relationships. All of this because you wanted to have a hot young girl while waiting for your real girlfriend.

Everyone is settling in some way, you'll never find someone who's perfect in every single way all the time. Not wanting to settle doesn't justify what you've done.

Of course you are fine. You've got exactly what you wanted. Who gives a sh*t about that young girls feelings and future?
bateman confirmed betaman:p
 

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You are justifying your selfish intents. When you have a sexual relationship with a girl she's bound to get attached to you, it's in their nature. This girl fell in love with you and you never loved her back because you still love your old girlfriend, yet you kept seeing her because it pleases you in the short term.
If it was supposed to be a relationship without feelings she wouldn't be your girlfriend in the first place, she probably thought that you would change your mind about your old girlfriend. She might blame herself for not being good enough for you now that you broke it off with her to go back to your old girlfriend. Now you have made this girl broken hearted in the short term, and maybe miserable in the long term because she's always going to compare her new boyfriends to you. You might have ruined her next relationships. All of this because you wanted to have a hot young girl while waiting for your real girlfriend.

Everyone is settling in some way, you'll never find someone who's perfect in every single way all the time. Not wanting to settle doesn't justify what you've done.

Of course you are fine. You've got exactly what you wanted. Who gives a sh*t about that young girls feelings and future?
Moralistic tripe.
 

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You are justifying your selfish intents. When you have a sexual relationship with a girl she's bound to get attached to you, it's in their nature. This girl fell in love with you and you never loved her back because you still love your old girlfriend, yet you kept seeing her because it pleases you in the short term.
If it was supposed to be a relationship without feelings she wouldn't be your girlfriend in the first place, she probably thought that you would change your mind about your old girlfriend. She might blame herself for not being good enough for you now that you broke it off with her to go back to your old girlfriend. Now you have made this girl broken hearted in the short term, and maybe miserable in the long term because she's always going to compare her new boyfriends to you. You might have ruined her next relationships. All of this because you wanted to have a hot young girl while waiting for your real girlfriend.

Everyone is settling in some way, you'll never find someone who's perfect in every single way all the time. Not wanting to settle doesn't justify what you've done.

Of course you are fine. You've got exactly what you wanted. Who gives a sh*t about that young girls feelings and future?

Wow did you go to Feminazi Camp while you were away.

Just kidding and it's quite extreme but definitely not un-true. I've seen Wolf write about it before and to be honest sounds f*****g bizarre, he's got his real love on the sidelines ready to be called in for, their future life together?!

I related with him as I have a somewhat similar situation but with a vital difference- a really close friend of mine who I've slept with at different times from many years ago, but it's long distance, she's on the other side of the world. I suspect if I was totally serious in committing she would move back here, she's more than hinted at that, and we've talked about our future etc and if we'd end up together, if we're compatible (we do tend to have issues of resentment that may not go away).

So the issue is, I'd basically be restructuring her life on the gamble we should actually be together and I'm not sure we should. Then what? If it doesn't work out then she's moved all the way back to settle/start again, for nothing, or the other option is me or possibly both of us being stuck in a miserable relationship.

If she already lived here we'd at least have tried to make it work.

So I'm not sure what exactly is stopping Wolf as it sounds like he's certain that's who his life will be with.
 

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Wow did you go to Feminazi Camp while you were away.

Just kidding and it's quite extreme but definitely not un-true. I've seen Wolf write about it before and to be honest sounds f*****g bizarre, he's got his real love on the sidelines ready to be called in for, their future life together?!

I related with him as I have a somewhat similar situation but with a vital difference- a really close friend of mine who I've slept with at different times from many years ago, but it's long distance, she's on the other side of the world. I suspect if I was totally serious in committing she would move back here, she's more than hinted at that, and we've talked about our future etc and if we'd end up together, if we're compatible (we do tend to have issues of resentment that may not go away).

So the issue is, I'd basically be restructuring her life on the gamble we should actually be together and I'm not sure we should. Then what? If it doesn't work out then she's moved all the way back to settle/start again, for nothing, or the other option is me or possibly both of us being stuck in a miserable relationship.

If she already lived here we'd at least have tried to make it work.

So I'm not sure what exactly is stopping Wolf as it sounds like he's certain that's who his life will be with.
Its also possible that it would work out great and that your uncertainty is keeping you from a satisfying relationship but you will never know.
 

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Its also possible that it would work out great and that your uncertainty is keeping you from a satisfying relationship but you will never know.

Of course it's possible otherwise I'd stop being remotely intimate with her and wasting her time (which I've considered doing so as I may be putting her off a real relationship with someone else).

Like I say we were far from perfect together, just when it was going well it felt really great. She even admitted she was a loose cannon a long time ago and was often immature (what a rare admission that is) but around this time last year she went back to her old self in a raging ball of fire. I don't believe she's truly changed, and typical of how a lot of people have issues, she'll admit fault with bitterness only to let it eat at her until her bottled rage bursts out of control.

So again, risk is high, reward would be unlikely, and months down the line she'd be blaming me for turning her life upside down (she would get a job here easily but her friend base is over there now and also, the wage is like literally double at least).

I want her happiness, however that comes, if I was more certain I'd go for it or even move to her (also considered this a few times seriously, never told her).
 

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Of course it's possible otherwise I'd stop being remotely intimate with her and wasting her time (which I've considered doing so as I may be putting her off a real relationship with someone else).

Like I say we were far from perfect together, just when it was going well it felt really great. She even admitted she was a loose cannon a long time ago and was often immature (what a rare admission that is) but around this time last year she went back to her old self in a raging ball of fire. I don't believe she's truly changed, and typical of how a lot of people have issues, she'll admit fault with bitterness only to let it eat at her until her bottled rage bursts out of control.

So again, risk is high, reward would be unlikely, and months down the line she'd be blaming me for turning her life upside down (she would get a job here easily but her friend base is over there now and also, the wage is like literally double at least).

I want her happiness, however that comes, if I was more certain I'd go for it or even move to her (also considered this a few times seriously, never told her).
Whats stopping you moving over there?
 

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That's f*****g romantic breh

I didn't tell her because it might get her hopes up and I'd get cold feet probably.

Whats stopping you moving over there?

I've got a job I've worked hard to move up in, but ultimately even though it's a great reference I have no real qualifications to start me off in something similar in another country for the same wage.

Removing material logistics, if I was convinced we're eternally in love (dunno if that sounds dramatic but I have felt like this before) then it wouldn't even be a question, she'd move here or I'd move there.

However with the issues we naturally have in arguing with each other and to be honest, how she can tend to be when literally deciding to be in bad form, it's like a different person comes out of nowhere. I'm not giving up my job, the life I've set up here and even my potential happiness for what could be a volatile relationship.
 

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Like I say we were far from perfect together, just when it was going well it felt really great. She even admitted she was a loose cannon a long time ago and was often immature (what a rare admission that is) but around this time last year she went back to her old self in a raging ball of fire. I don't believe she's truly changed, and typical of how a lot of people have issues, she'll admit fault with bitterness only to let it eat at her until her bottled rage bursts out of control.

would love calm this rage?
 

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would love calm this rage?

I mean it's not like giving your feelings a certain terminology really changes anything, you don't decide one day that you now accept you're in "love" and then you're a different person.

She has strong feelings for me and officially falling in love is just a question of dating and spending more time with each other. I'm sure I'd fall in love too, but never knowing when that dark side of her comes out would leave me constantly miserable overall. And yes of course you can love someone who still makes you miserable, the problem is that you're always trying or hoping for them to change, and it's just chasing something that is very rare to actually occur.
 

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I mean it's not like giving your feelings a certain terminology really changes anything, you don't decide one day that you now accept you're in "love" and then you're a different person.

She has strong feelings for me and officially falling in love is just a question of dating and spending more time with each other. I'm sure I'd fall in love too, but never knowing when that dark side of her comes out would leave me constantly miserable overall. And yes of course you can love someone who still makes you miserable, the problem is that you're always trying or hoping for them to change, and it's just chasing something that is very rare to actually occur.
what I meant was, do you think she would still act like that if you were in a relationship with her?
maybe her dark side/ rage is partly from the frustration of those strong feelings?
Of course you actually know her. when you say dark side, how dark? like you fear she is batshit crazy and might snap and try to murder you dark?
 

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what I meant was, do you think she would still act like that if you were in a relationship with her?
maybe her dark side/ rage is partly from the frustration of those strong feelings?
Of course you actually know her. when you say dark side, how dark? like you fear she is batshit crazy and might snap and try to murder you dark?

Yes I was referring to if we actually went out, initially it might cause her to be sweeter but a relationship status or "love" terminology is not a long term fix to how a person is.

She's not batshit crazy but she does decide if for some reason, today she's going to be awfully hurtful and unreasonable. I understand when people are in a bad mood and just need space or talk about their bad mood, but when they decide to take it out on someone with no intention of wanting to feel better, that's a very toxic personality trait I feel.

Maybe it's me being oversensitive, maybe she's not as crazy as what other stronger men could put up with, but that's me and that's why we are possibly not compatible. I'd say it's likely we aren't, and not going to risk her moving here or vice versa.

Everything seems simpler in a film or observing other's lives "if you want her- go after her!" Not necessarily the best advice and has lead to a lot of unhappiness for lots of people.
 

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Yes I was referring to if we actually went out, initially it might cause her to be sweeter but a relationship status or "love" terminology is not a long term fix to how a person is.

She's not batshit crazy but she does decide if for some reason, today she's going to be awfully hurtful and unreasonable. I understand when people are in a bad mood and just need space or talk about their bad mood, but when they decide to take it out on someone with no intention of wanting to feel better, that's a very toxic personality trait I feel.

Maybe it's me being oversensitive, maybe she's not as crazy as what other stronger men could put up with, but that's me and that's why we are possibly not compatible. I'd say it's likely we aren't, and not going to risk her moving here or vice versa.

Everything seems simpler in a film or observing other's lives "if you want her- go after her!" Not necessarily the best advice and has lead to a lot of unhappiness for lots of people.
this makes me think of a mental masturbation theory i've had: imagine a world where instead of getting off on hotness we get off on conscientiousness and kindness and honesty. the world would be perfect in like 1 generation lol. i think it would make a good science fiction film
 

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She's not batshit crazy but she does decide if for some reason, today she's going to be awfully hurtful and unreasonable. I understand when people are in a bad mood and just need space or talk about their bad mood, but when they decide to take it out on someone with no intention of wanting to feel better, that's a very toxic personality trait I feel.
I agree. I understand taking frustration out on someone who hurt you but never on someone who is innocent. Unfortunately, many people have this trait. they want other people to feel bad when they are.
 

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this makes me think of a mental masturbation theory i've had: imagine a world where instead of getting off on hotness we get off on conscientiousness and kindness and honesty. the world would be perfect in like 1 generation lol. i think it would make a good science fiction film

Possible title:

Exopuss; conscientousness makes the ladies go Yu-Gi-Ohhhh!
 
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