I Cared About Balding At 25, And Still Care At 35

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Balding is worse the younger you are, no question. This post is not about comparing. This is about how, for most people, you don't wake up at age 30 or 35 or whatever and stop caring about your appearance. Sure, it's more normal amongst your peers to have some balding, but it still sucks and negatively affects your looks. It sounds vain, but I think it's only normal for people to want to look their best, and it sucks to be at the mercy of a cosmetic genetic condition that only certain individuals are afflicted with.

I'll use myself as an example (and, since this is my first post, as a sort of introduction). When I first realized I was going bald the economy was in the toilet, I had no money, and I was going through some legit personal crises that I won't get into right now. While there were other things I should have been doing with my time to improve my situation (networking, exercise, enjoying people in my life, etc.) instead I spent hours browsing this and other forums. I saw the uncommon successes of people like peapoddy, all the horror stories about finasteride, read how the cure was going to come out "in just five years," and so on.

For the first few months I tried all sorts of stuff that never worked -- supplements, diet, you name it -- and then eventually got a script for finasteride. I had no sides, and after a year on finasteride I added min. Now, 8 years later, my hair is below baseline but certainly not as bad as it would be had I gone without treatment.

The years passed. There was no cure in 2010 or 2012 or 2015, and I don't expect a cure in the next 10 years. Sure, there are now plenty of balding men my age, but so what? I don't like how I look bald, and I'm tired of my recession and diffuse thinning. While I now make enough money that I can afford a transplant, my career makes getting a transplant close to impossible. I can't take more than one week off from work and can't go around meeting people with a shaved, red, and wounded head either. I'm seriously considering a hair system, which was inconceivable to me only a few years ago.

Honestly, it isn't all about attracting the opposite sex either, although I'm sure if I were single it would be even more aggravating. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but hairloss will probably also suck as you approach middle age. Just had to vent. :D
 
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When I saw my first signs off baldness at 21 I said to myself that if I could just get to thirty then it will be ok to shave it bald and i'll still have some years to enjoy being a normal headed person. Turns out that once you get to thirty I still want to be a normal headed person.
 

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When I saw my first signs off baldness at 21 I said to myself that if I could just get to thirty then it will be ok to shave it bald and i'll still have some years to enjoy being a normal headed person. Turns out that once you get to thirty I still want to be a normal headed person.

Be one of the FEW, the PROUD, the FULL HEADS.

Actually, in another decade, you'll see how rare they are.

Every guy will either have a hair transplant, or be a Norwood 4/5 or higher.
 

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Balding is worse the younger you are, no question. This post is not about comparing. This is about how, for most people, you don't wake up at age 30 or 35 or whatever and stop caring about your appearance. Sure, it's more normal amongst your peers to have some balding, but it still sucks and negatively affects your looks. It sounds vain, but I think it's only normal for people to want to look their best, and it sucks to be at the mercy of a cosmetic genetic condition that only certain individuals are afflicted with.

I'll use myself as an example (and, since this is my first post, as a sort of introduction). When I first realized I was going bald the economy was in the toilet, I had no money, and I was going through some legit personal crises that I won't get into right now. While there were other things I should have been doing with my time to improve my situation (networking, exercise, enjoying people in my life, etc.) instead I spent hours browsing this and other forums. I saw the uncommon successes of people like peapoddy, all the horror stories about finasteride, read how the cure was going to come out "in just five years," and so on.

For the first few months I tried all sorts of stuff that never worked -- supplements, diet, you name it -- and then eventually got a script for finasteride. I had no sides, and after a year on finasteride I added min. Now, 8 years later, my hair is below baseline but certainly not as bad as it would be had I gone without treatment.

The years passed. There was no cure in 2010 or 2012 or 2015, and I don't expect a cure in the next 10 years. Sure, there are now plenty of balding men my age, but so what? I don't like how I look bald, and I'm tired of my recession and diffuse thinning. While I now make enough money that I can afford a transplant, my career makes getting a transplant close to impossible. I can't take more than one week off from work and can't go around meeting people with a shaved, red, and wounded head either. I'm seriously considering a hair system, which was inconceivable to me only a few years ago.

Honestly, it isn't all about attracting the opposite sex either, although I'm sure if I were single it would be even more aggravating. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but hairloss will probably also suck as you approach middle age. Just had to vent. :D
I've always maintained: If you care about hair loss and the effect it has on your facial aesthetics in your 20's, then you will still care about this effect well into your 30's, 40,'s and so on.
You will most likely be still cursing hair loss on your deathbed.

As you said, you can't just turn off your mind after a certain age.
The only time your mind stops working is in senility, then death.

Now, some claim that you can retrain your mind to no longer care for your hair loss (acceptance), but I think that's a major cope.
 

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I am basically a NW3 now with some thinning in the NW4 area - still have most of my NW2 hairline, but it's diffuse. If my hair was not so coarse and thick to begin with it would look a lot worse, but as it is I can comb it forward and look normal for a guy my age.

When this sh*t started 10 or so years ago, I thought I'd be happy if I could make it to 30 without having to shave my head. Now, I realize how valuable looks remain to be as we get older, and not just with regard to attracting women. My appearance has gone up and down over the years with fluctuations in exercise, clothes, hair quality, etc., and I know for a fact that people just naturally cut you way more slack the better looking you are.

A full head of hair is not a free pass on life, but for most of us the increase in attractiveness that hair provides positively affects our lives in lots of little ways we probably don't even realize.
 

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It's not a free pass.

If we have a weird shaped dome, it's a death sentence.

That said, ugly is ugly. We can't help our looks. Hair or no hair,
it's sad but true.

People not born with looks have a SMARTER approach to life. They
know when people are honest, and when they aren't.

For better looking people (not me), looks FADE every day.

They do for full heads as well. That's life.
 

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Hey man are you sure you are below baseline? If so, how far below? Do you mind sharing some before and after pics? I would love to see what long term use of treatments can give me.
 

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I agree with what you said and I just over the past year started losing hair.

I'm sure I will care about it at age 30,40 ect. However going bald at 30 would be a lot better then age 20 ( I'm currently 19). That would be 10 years I could be normal , date and lose virginity.
 

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We can't help our looks. Hair or no hair,
it's sad but true.

Lol k

You can have you entire face remodeled and shaped, blemishes removed, teeth done, etc. if you have enough money and especially if you live in South Korea. 4s become 9s on a daily basis there.

Hair falling out? Best we presently do is finasteride, rogaine and transplants and for many, the first two options don't work and many transplants look good at best.

You can be beautiful if you really want. No amount of effort or money can presently buy you a technology to give you your hair back, but you can buy a better face.

That's the world we're trapped in.
 

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Have fun wearing a rug.

I suppose if you stay in air conditioned rooms, dont go on vacation, and plan to be single it's a good option
 

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I will tell you this story about age and hair:

A couple of weeks ago I entered a bar and asked for a coffee. A very old man (90s, maybe 95) entered the bar as well. The owner chatted a bit with him and complimented him on the mobility and independence he had at his age.
The old man's rebuttal? "Thank you and I tell you more: I still have my hair!" (Takes off his baseball cap and shows a proud NW2).
I complimented him too and thought to myself: of all the things that could come to his mind, hair was still the first.
 

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I will tell you this story about age and hair:

A couple of weeks ago I entered a bar and asked for a coffee. A very old man (90s, maybe 95) entered the bar as well. The owner chatted a bit with him and complimented him on the mobility and independence he had at his age.
The old man's rebuttal? "Thank you and I tell you more: I still have my hair!" (Takes off his baseball cap and shows a proud NW2).
I complimented him too and thought to myself: of all the things that could come to his mind, hair was still the first.


It's similar with height. People act like they did something to deserve it when in reality they got genetically lucky.
 

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It's similar with height. People act like they did something to deserve it when in reality they got genetically lucky.

True. People are mostly convinced that one gets what one deserves in terms of one's body.

To be honest I have the terrible feeling that when people who are not bald watch someone who is balding, the thought is exactly that: why is he doing this to himself?
 

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True. People are mostly convinced that one gets what one deserves in terms of one's body.

To be honest I have the terrible feeling that when people who are not bald watch someone who is balding, the thought is exactly that: why is he doing this to himself?

It probally isn't this way, but it seems like the nice people always go bald and the douchebags always keep their hair lol. I know before I was losing my hair I didn't even notice baldness, and I'm not bull shitting I just really did not notice unless someone was slick bald, even then I didn't think anything bad of them though.
 

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Hey man are you sure you are below baseline? If so, how far below? Do you mind sharing some before and after pics? I would love to see what long term use of treatments can give me.

Yeah, I'm sure. I'm more diffuse in the area between NW2 and NW4, but I still have decent coverage.

A few months after I started finasteride I went through a bad shed (went from NW2 to NW3) and then recovered over the next year. Fortunately I am still above where I was during that shedding period. However, I've thinned slightly at the top of my head and have some retrograde thinning above my ears as well.

For 8 years of finasteride I guess I can't complain. My only regret is not realizing I was losing my hair earlier. Had I been more aware and not been in denial I could have hopped on finasteride as a thick NW1.5 and I'd no doubt be in better shape now.

I didn't catalog my hair with photos or anything but I'll see if I've got some I can post.
 

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Have fun wearing a rug.

I suppose if you stay in air conditioned rooms, dont go on vacation, and plan to be single it's a good option

I hear you. Your post about wearing a rug was one of the better threads I've read on HairLossTalk.com, and was what actually made me even consider wearing. Lots of rug wearers come off as delusional, but you seemed realistic about your experience. I was impressed that you thought modern rugs can be visually undetectable.

A transplant is obviously preferable, and if I could take off a month or two I would probably go that route. The thing is I can't take off a month or two - I could maybe do ten days off at most.

As for my lifestyle, I work in corporate America, and yes I work in air conditioned office buildings 60-70 hours per week. I'm married and my wife truly doesn't give a sh*t if I get a rug - she is actually more opposed to a hair transplant because she thinks it will be $10-20k now, then another $10-20k in 5-10 years as the baldness progresses AND it may not even provide a good result in the end. My biggest problem with rugs to be honest is (a) the idea of gluing something to my head; and (b) the unparalleled humiliation of being identified as a rug wearer. Plus, I still have a lot of hair and from what I understand that may make wearing a rug impossible.
 
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jetlife1

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Obviously we all want to stay above baseline, but your situation isn't too bad from what you described. I started early on in the hair loss process so I'm okay if I stay at baseline. I'm glad you're still above where you were at during that initial finasteride shed cause that was absolutely brutal for me during the first 3-6 months of using finasteride.

Even if you could post a pic of your hair now that would be cool. Either way I appreciate you sharing your experience with the drug. Hopefully better treatments are on the horizon and if you could maintain the rest of your hair with finasteride, a hair transplant could probably bring you back to a full head of hair.
 
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