I talked to some girls....

[superfrankie]

You guys make it seem like balding men are so rare and in between. Statistics show that half the white men will experience hairloss at some point in their lives. Hairloss isn't that rare and if it was as horrible as you guys say, then half the men on earth could never get ladies, which is far from the truth. :shakehead:

And the majority of that half only experience slight recession to the point of having a mature hairline or just minor age related thinning in their forties. While the minority of that half actually go fully bald in their early to mid twenties like myself, which is in fact more rare. You say all this but yet you "wannakeepitall" so don't pretend that going bald is no big deal to be worried about when your name states otherwise.

I could not have said this any better.

 

[BrightonBaldy]

Theres alot of deluded men on here, a hell of alot, theres no question whatsoever that balding in your twenties murders your attractiveness to women.

Well, if you want to meet women also in their twenties that is, good looking ones.

Like all of you I can only talk from personal experience, 3 years ago I swear I was getting it thrown at me from all angles (and it wasnt the runt of the litter either) and now I'm in better shape, with more money, I got virtually no attention whatsoever.. whys that? I'm less attractive because I'm going bald.

I have to say I am saving plenty of cash on my phone contract these days and going out less during the weeks helped me stay in shape, before I was going out 4-5 times a week as opposed to the once a week now. I have no girls on my phone atm that I could call up whenever and they'd come out, there would always be an excuse unless I arranged way in advance, 3 years ago I could get in touch with 3-4 women (random women would come and go) and go for a drink the same night, there wouldnt be any hesitation.

I'm going bald now, I'm less attractive, I've had a handfull of female 'friends' over the past few years, one or two very hot, its impossible to get anywhere with them (and really, who wants female friends, they arent funny and are generally a bit thick, when not getting anywhere with them they are tedious bores).

 

[Bald Dave]

I've seen it go both ways in terms of one person in the couple being better looking than their partner to the point where you ask yourself "what are they doing with that person?" but most of the time it's the Ken and Barbie show.

I disagree that most couples are like Ken & Barbie. When i go to the shopping mall i am always seeing ugly guys with attractive girls but for some reason never see any ugly girls with attractive guys. I think the reasons behind this is because looks mean alot to men than they do to women. Alot of women like personality and my friend is a good example of this. He is nothing good to look at (ginger hair, short, big nose, sticking out ears) but he is so funny and he has everyone in stitches. Whenever we go out he never has problems getting girls because they love his personality! Men on the other hand wouldn't go out with someone who has a good personality but is unattractive and this is why we go mainly for looks but that doesn't mean that women go mainly for looks :hump:

 

[barcafan]

and really, who wants female friends, they arent funny and are generally a bit thick, when not getting anywhere with them they are tedious bores

Sounds like you had shitty female friends.

 

[somone uk]

so please, do NOT f****ing settle, under any circumstance, because your gf, or god forbid, your wife, will be _the_ constant reminder of failure.

i love all the guys slapping each other on the back here saying "dude stay away from ugly chicks, not worth it!" the fact is, if you yourself are ugly, tough sh*t! what makes you think you "deserve" a hot girl? if you're a 5 out of 10, plan on attracting girls that are 5 out of 10.

*corrected quote* :innocent:

 

[BrightonBaldy]

and really, who wants female friends, they arent funny and are generally a bit thick, when not getting anywhere with them they are tedious bores

Sounds like you had shitty female friends.

youd be surprised at the quality of some of my female friends, although i love spending time with them i know they dont want to f*** me because they think im ugly (and never will, guys seem to learn about the age of 28 that you cant befriend a girl and THEN get her into bed, pretty much every girl ive ever met has a handful of male friends that follow them around).

its not only sex, any form of intimacy goes out the window once your a 'friend'

like i said before, some deluded men on here, hair-loss makes you uglier..

 

[Bald Dave]

and really, who wants female friends, they arent funny and are generally a bit thick, when not getting anywhere with them they are tedious bores

Sounds like you had shitty female friends.

youd be surprised at the quality of some of my female friends, although i love spending time with them i know they dont want to f*ck me because they think im ugly (and never will, guys seem to learn about the age of 28 that you cant befriend a girl and THEN get her into bed, pretty much every girl ive ever met has a handful of male friends that follow them around).

its not only sex, any form of intimacy goes out the window once your a 'friend'

like i said before, some deluded men on here, hair-loss makes you uglier..

I was like this 2 years ago! I had 2 female friends who i use to go out clubbing with and spend weekends with. When we went out they would be flirting with other guys in front of me which got me jealous because i liked one of them. When i tried to get close to her she made it quite obvious that she wasn't interested. After that I cut contact with both of them completly and its the best thing i've ever done. I've never been happier!

A bit of advice would be to never be friends with a girl that you secretly like because unless she feels the same way then you will only ever be friends :gay:

Nowadays i only go out clubbing with my gf or my male friends because i found out the hard way that female friends won't ever work out!

 

[Mens Rea]

^ Dave, this is where its weird for me

I have loads of female friends

Most of them have made passes at me. Almost every time ill turn them down. These are decent looking girls too.

I put them in the friend zone and they see ME get the other girls. It makes them jealous and wonder why im not attracted to them. But im just not because they're my friend and if i had fancied them i would have made my own advancements. Its as if they konw this and want to redress their egos.

Being a lapdog definately isn't going to attract girls as you say.

 

[Bald Dave]

Colin, I suppose if you don't fancy the female friends then it can work. But if you fancy them and they don't fancy you back then by staying friends with them it will never work as you will always feel like sh*t when the girl is flirting with other guys in front of you! The ultimate insult is when they talk about having sex with guys and wanting advice on how to get with the guy. You become their gay best friend and the fact is you're not gay and you are actually attracted to the girl. I've decided to never go down that road again and just stick with going out with my male friends and let some other sap be their gay best friend instead :hump:

 

[Nene]

I'm going to have to disagree here. I think having female friends is great. First of all they can introduce you to other female friends, and the more girls you know the better. Second, women always pay more attention to men that they see with other women. And finally, many of the girls I've hooked up with and dated in the past started out as friends. I may not have really liked them, or they may not have really been interested in me, but after gettiing to know them, chatting and working some charm, often they might fall for you and vice versa. My last girl was a beautiful filipina who started out as my friend. I would listen to her complain about her BF and try and console her and give her advice while not talk trash about the guy. I thought she was cute but wasn't too interested. Then I started to like her and I felt we had some chemistry so I made a move. So I say make a lot of female friends.

 

[s.a.f]

Definatley have to go with Dave here.
If you like a woman just come straight out and make your true intentions known.
Many times I never had the balls to do this and tried the "act like a nice guy and get them to fall for you act" - it does'nt work. :shakehead:
Women have 2 catagories for male companions those they want to f*** and those who are 'freinds'.
All I can say to Colin is he must be a good looking guy and these women wanted him first and are doing what I did - going for a non direct approach.
If a woman sees you as a freind unless she had the hots for you from the start you will never change her mind, once you cross that line of being the 'nice guy/ male freind / lapdog it'll never happen once they start to think of you like that they'll never see you as a sexual being. For her it'd be like getting off with her own brother.
Also I dont think other women view it in a good way, they'll also see you as a girly man :gay: not a real 'one of the lads type' which is what really gets them foaming at the gash :hump: (dont believe that in touch with his female side / sensitive metro, new man crap). :jackit:

 

[uncomfortable man]

This reminds me of the main character from that movie I Love You Man. The guy is a walking tampon who's only "friends" are the ladies around the office. He doesn't know how to kick it with the guys. If I see a guy who only hangs out with women when he goes out, I don't assume he is a pimp rather just another one of the girls. Yeah it is true that if you are out with a girl then other women are going to be more interested in you but I'm pretty sure they could tell if you are a "purse carrier". I think women like to see guys hanging out and having fun despite them.

 

[BrightonBaldy]

I love using the word deluded/delusional on this topic, because its blindingly obvious who falls under that category and who doesnt.

'Purse Carrier' is a good one. I might use that again, infact I might just start calling these men handbags from now on, women collect them.


An old room mate of mine, typical mid 20's urban woman, slim, fashionable, dedicated clubber, good earner (I wanted her bad for a long time btw). She had a string of guys she claimed were just friends, I told her that if she asked any of them out, not one of them would use the line 'lets just stay friends' which she obviously would in return, when I challenged her to do it she never attempted to prove me wrong, because deep down she also knew these men were willingly being taken for a ride.

The point of that wonderful story- women can see through your role playing.... whenever these guys were with her on their own, they used to all be very sweet and sensitive, very caring of her work problems and when they were in a group or around me, they would attempt to act extremely macho, or gentlemanly even. Women can see through everything, one of the plebs she had as a mate used to make her go into our patio to smoke constantly when it was raining last summer, just so he could hold the umbrella for her (??). She actually hated it when her friends attempted to walk her home after nights out, her own fault for stringing them along, but they were all willing to do it to spend time with her.

My role in all of this was to be the one who would throw them out at 4am if they hung around too long or to listen to her bitching about constant text messages, again I was being used as much as they were.

Dont be taken in lads, they will only let you down!


BaldDave, agreed when you free yourself of one of those pointless friendships theres a massive weight of your shoulders, been there myself a couple of times over the years, just cut ties, watch how quickly they dont come running back. After a while you wont care and will be able to see the 'relationship' for what it was.

 

[BrightonBaldy]

PS. and you'll not let yourself be hurt again.

stick with male friends :dunno: they might call you a baldy bastard but at least theyre honest and will buy you a beer afterwards

 

[47thin]

Having tried the buddy route, I can attest that it only leads to despair. Unless there is a compelling reason to just be friends- say, she's married and you are in the same college class, then, maybe. At the same time, there is only so much time in life, you might as well spend it with women who find you attractive, and don't consider you beneath them.

Don't ever by that bullshit about some guy that is so hot, but he's only for "f'ing", and you are much nicer, but undo-able.

Take it from an old guy that has seen it all (50) and one of the few regrets is ever being "Just Friends". As a matter of fact, see that movie, for example, and you'll see that she basically dick teased the hell out of that guy when he was fat, and he was basically stuck in that role. The villain of the piece may have been a jerk, but at least he was trying to get something out of life.

 

[superfrankie]

No guy wants to be a girl`s friend. And with friend I mean hanging out from time to time, not chatting on msn,facebook etc.

 

[Nichiyoubi]

Girls I've known never gave a rat's rear about men's hairlines. Thank goodness for that because I have no hairline.