If there where no females, would you care about hair loss?

s.a.f

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monty1978 said:
i hear what you are saying. i can't get any of the girls I used to get. No longer intersted in me. And yes I agree you can't let yourself go cos the world is superficial but if you are losing your hair and the only thing that makes a difference is finasteride and finasteride destroys your sex drive it is impossible not to let yourself go..one hell of a trade off... :(

I think the overwhelming majority of the millions of guys using it worldwide would disagree.
 

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monty1978 said:
Maybe you are right and in wich case good for them, sincerely.

All I know is I have never had a side effect in my life. With all drugs, recreational or pharmaceutical I have always followed the guidlines or general protocol. Never a problem. Wanted sex every day of my life since 10 years of age and then bam 3 days on finasteride and no more desire what so ever. I didn't know or care about side effects at the time. I'm sorry if it pisses people off that I mention it I just I can't understand how I am the 1 in 50 and 2 other people that I personally know (the only 2 I personally know to have tried it) have tried finasteride and all the same. Must be coincidence..we are the 3 in 150. My mate has been off for 6 months now and is seeing his G.P cos his libido hasn't come back.

You go on the body buiding forums and it is common knowledge that finasteride diminishes the sex drive to some degree or another in all people taking it. It is an accepted rule.


I wish I could tolerate the stuff, it just ruins me, but it works very well indeed.

I am going down the inflammatory anti fungal route now.

You know any other way please advise


No, you are wrong. 2% was a high-ball figure. There's no such thing as side effects from finasteride. [/sarcasm]
 

cuebald

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I get a mildly reduced drive from finasteride, I'm talking at most 15%. Is that a worthwhile trade-off to help maintain my hair? Definitely for me.
I also read that the DHT inhibition that helps combat male pattern baldness also helps stop new growth of DHT sensitive hair elsewhere on the body (such as... on the back and shoulders) - also worth giving up 15% of my drive.
Not that I even have a girlfriend at present... :)
 

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fernand said:
men who have premature male pattern baldness, are considered genetically inferior
But this is not true.

I believe if theres two people that are identical in every way except one being fully bald, then the bald one would be inferior, i would say.

But obviously theres more variables in life than hair
 

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I don't care what other people - females or males - think about me. To me, it's all about being able to face the mirror every morning. In my case, baldness would be disastrous: I have a small face, a huge forehead and it would make me look like a martian.
 

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Belmondo said:
I don't care what other people - females or males - think about me. To me, it's all about being able to face the mirror every morning.

I think you speak for everyone in here.
 

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superfrankie said:
Belmondo said:
I don't care what other people - females or males - think about me. To me, it's all about being able to face the mirror every morning.

I think you speak for everyone in here.

But how can you be sure that society doesn't place this burden on you in the first place?
 

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Guys one thing about this thread really bothers me....If there were no females,would you have to be gay ? :whistle:
 

superfrankie

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barcafan said:
superfrankie said:
Belmondo said:
I don't care what other people - females or males - think about me. To me, it's all about being able to face the mirror every morning.

I think you speak for everyone in here.

But how can you be sure that society doesn't place this burden on you in the first place?

Well, you have a point.
 

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superfrankie said:
But how can you be sure that society doesn't place this burden on you in the first place?

Well, you have a point.[/quote]

Society probably exasperates the importance of the way we look, but I still think attraction is still rooted in science/nature/evolutionary theory.

Ie, babies look cute so their mothers will feed them and take care of them. Younger people are usually attractive, or more so then older adults; so they have a better chance to procreate. There has been research to show that symetry in the face leads to attractive proportions. So its not like society 'makes up' what is and what isnt attractive. But they do push certian trends and increase the pressure to look attractive and young. Its ever more elitist and ageist.

Im not sure how true it is to say to that our society is more image-orientated or superficial than in other times and cultures. There have been many different society throughout the ages, and its probable that in times of kings and peasants, there was an even greater prejudice against ugly/good looking, poor/rich etc. On one hand we do have a 'superficial' society, but at the same time in the west anyway, there is a lot you can do to improve on things. Make money, have good health, improve your looks/status etc. You can be socially and financially mobile. Most people have the freedom to prosper. So its a double edged sword I guess. Im aware of the society we live in now. But its hard to really know/judge how image-orientated society was and whether it was better or worse to be bald in recent and long term history.

male pattern baldness is quite cruelly ironic - that in this day and age, nature can still destroy our looks, even though we can have everything at our disposal, yet hairloss can do more damage to our looks and confidence then anything else.
Its also probably worthwhile to mention that most people that come on this site are somewhat self-concious, and its not nessacarily society that makes us self concious. Some people are just that way. I have always been self concious and cant bare the thought of thinning hair and being bald my whole life.

I dont think I will be activeliy 'discriminated' against but at the same time I could see that being completely bald or having more or less bald features, thinning etc, the way people interact with me will completey change.

The future looks bald, not bright. Well, probably bright on my bald pale bonce.
 

uncomfortable man

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barcafan said:
fernand said:
men who have premature male pattern baldness, are considered genetically inferior
But this is not true.

I believe if theres two people that are identical in every way except one being fully bald, then the bald one would be inferior, i would say.
I think that is more or less the common perception. I mean there have been enough studies done where a diverse demographic is shown two pictures- one with hair and one without and asked which one seems more trustworthy, desireable etc. etc. and it always fairs bad for the bald ones. Dating sites are another proving ground where bald guys are shown to be far less successfull than full heads. There is just so much evidence out there that proves that there is very real and tangible evidence of prejudice against bald people. If there weren't then nobody would care or worry about going bald in the first place but this site (amongst others) with droves of young people flocking, paranoid that they will loose their hair and doing anything within their power to prevent going bald strongly indicates otherwise. Everyone knows that going bald will almost surely make them unnatractive to a great majority of women and that is a death sentence.
 

Mens Rea

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I think that is more or less the common perception. I mean there have been enough studies done where a diverse demographic is shown two pictures- one with hair and one without and asked which one seems more trustworthy, desireable etc. etc. and it always fairs bad for the bald ones. Dating sites are another proving ground where bald guys are shown to be far less successfull than full heads. There is just so much evidence out there that proves that there is very real and tangible evidence of prejudice against bald people. If there weren't then nobody would care or worry about going bald in the first place but this site (amongst others) with droves of young people flocking, paranoid that they will loose their hair and doing anything within their power to prevent going bald strongly indicates otherwise. Everyone knows that going bald will almost surely make them unnatractive to a great majority of women and that is a death sentence.

Mate, i completely agree

Bald = immediate sterotype.

A dating site for a bald man, well...its not a good start.

HOWEVER these intial perceptions, although deep rotted and illogical, can evaporate in a matter of minutes in real life social interaction. I see this day , after day, after day.

Guys with magnetic personalities that look like sh*t. They bulldoze through the inital "hmmm look at your egg shaped head" or whatever and immediately grasp control of the situation.

Don't lie and tell me you dont know this to be true.

Ill admit it takes strength of character but that is what im working on. I can see development but its difficult and certainly progressive and slow. But its there and its something i can control, unlike male pattern baldness.

Go read a few books on self improvement etc, youd be shocked man. You still have all the potential in teh world, bald or not. A leader of men and a desire of women.

As regarsd women, you only ultimately need to earn the love of one. Considering statistically you are almost assured this by default, if you actually get your finger out you might just surprise yourself buddy.


I hooked up with a random girl last week. She was running her hands though my hair (my hair is THIN and badly diffused but im not overly sensitive about it...i mean im realistic that its there) and i actually said myself to watch it because i have thin hair. She said "yeah but its fine". I cant remember what i said after that but she said "yeah but you know what....i find a bald man soo sexy".

She wasting alluding to Vin Diesel or Willis. Just me. An average dude. The fact she actually went out of her way to express a preference for it really opened up my eyes.

Another thing that opened up my eyes was a guy, a good friend of mine, who recnetly too the plunge with the headblade. He looks better for it imo. He's probably a notch below average. He cant BELIEVE the attention from women he's got since. Its attracted a whole new niche of women.

Put yourself in the positions to actually see this for yourself. You might change your perspective mate.
 

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I have not once ever heard a woman say "I find bald men sexy".
I've seen women be attracted to guys who happened to be bald, but I've never seen one specifically refer to baldness as sexy.
These stories are exaggerated.
 

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I wonder how the term "bald is beautiful" came about? Probably an attempt to create some leverage against a less than favorable perception of baldness in our society.
 

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You've never heard the phrase "big is beautiful"?

But I'm sure if you go on weightloss/short height forums you'll find plenty of people being told "its not size that matters its personality, and anyone who thinks differently is'nt worth bothering with".
 

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cuebald said:
I have not once ever heard a woman say "I find bald men sexy".
I've seen women be attracted to guys who happened to be bald, but I've never seen one specifically refer to baldness as sexy.
These stories are exaggerated.
Conversely, I never heard a woman say "Men with full heads of hair are sexy", the majority just dont talk that way.
 

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monty1978 said:
cuebald said:
I have not once ever heard a woman say "I find bald men sexy".
I've seen women be attracted to guys who happened to be bald, but I've never seen one specifically refer to baldness as sexy.
These stories are exaggerated.

I have!


@nashville hairline.

your regimen is similar to mine now I have removed 5ar inhibitors. hows it working out for you mate?
Not as great as I'd like tbh ..its thicker and shinier and seems to have slowed it down a bit but ultimately the loss is still progressing.
 

s.a.f

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I think the guys on here would be more interested in the daughter than the mother.
 

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My answer to the main question -
If there were no women , I wouldn't mind being a bald chimp drinking my own pee.
 
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