ill just leave this here

[b0ngman]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... light=bald

 

[Shma]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=122195921&highlight=bald

There's quite a difference between what women choose in a random internet poll and what they think / how they'd act in real life.

 

[b0ngman]

did you read any of the posts?

 

[Shma]

did you read any of the posts?

You're right, sorry. Actually women over there are being quite honest, and that's the sad truth. My first post was refering to the general thingy, not that particular case.

 

[nerdwood]

The ladies love to rub a shaved head, I've never seen them going crazy over a toppik sprinkled combover.

 

[b0ngman]

lol you have such a pessimistic attitude... just because its a bodybuilding forum does not mean all the girls want huge jacked bodybuilders... only portion of them. They did however say they like guys that are in shape... which we have much more control over than our hair. They also said the guy pitying himself b/c he is going bald is worse than the guy actually being bald.

 

[Boondock]

This thread actually matches a fair amount of my experience. Some girls hate bald, others don't mind it, and others still actually like it. However, almost all girls a) hate poor attempts to cover up hairloss, and almost all can detect it, and b) like confidence, i.e. an ability to 'rock' the bald look well.

However, it's pretty pointless making these arguments here since most members have quite adept "negativity filters". Throw any evidence that bald isn't the end of the world and they'll find a way to ping it back at you ("the women are lying", "the women are a type x", "the women only like bald men under circumstance y", yada yada yada)

 

[b0ngman]

yeah... they are generally say that they care more about the way a guy acts than the way a guy looks

all the people in this section who are wallowing in self pity... your wallowing is doing you more harm than losing your hair...

 

[somone uk]

women never honestly know what they want though, i remember a girl i know who says she has a thing for bald men, she turned a guy down for too much hair and the same guy down because he shaved his head, most women don't know what they want, they just think they do
ask a girl to name 10 hot celebs, it's the only way to find the truth
usually you will get 100% NW1

 

[cuebald]

So 40% openly admit saying no, that's almost half the female population thrown out of my reach before I've even opened my mouth

 

[somone uk]

So 40% openly admit saying no, that's almost half the female population thrown out of my reach before I've even opened my mouth

and that disregards the women who will subconsciously turn down bald men

 

[uncomfortable man]

I read this guys story on another site where he had met this really great woman some time after having multiple hair transplants that had restored him back to having a full head of hair. He said she was beautiful, kind, down to earth and a genuinely good person. After they were more secure in their relationship he confided with her that he had work done. He even showed her some before pictures. She told him that she would not have even considered going out with him in that state. Her reasoning was why choose a nice guy with rotten hair when there are plenty of nice guys with good hair out there? It kinda broke his heart to hear that but it made him realize that women don't have to be a shallow superficial b****s to reject a man because he is bald. There are plenty of otherwise great women out there that are subconciously repulsed by baldness. We tell ourselves that they aren't worth our time to make ourselves feel better about being rejected.

 

[Nene]

I agree with UC man. I see it the same way with fat girls. Why would I go for a nice fat girl when there are plenty of slim nice girls? I don't blame girls for not wanting a bald guy, if I was a chick I certainly wouldn't want one.

 

[qball01]

So 40% openly admit saying no, that's almost half the female population thrown out of my reach before I've even opened my mouth

lol...its a public poll..check the results, most of the people who voted for the "yes bald is ugly option" are guys....so unless you care about what other heterosexual men think about your attractiveness, I wouldn't worry too much about a stupid internet poll like that...the actual responses from women in that thread do indicate that at (at least THOSE women) don't care nearly as much about a man being bald if he is attractive in other ways and keeps fit. But guys on here think that being bald is a death sentence with women no matter what....real women will understand that a man can't help being bald and many will still be able to consider a bald guy attractive (and thats even without "personality")....the fact is, take a non famous Billy Zane (the in-shape, shaved head version) and pit him against a non famous Mike Myers or Steve Bucemi....you really think all the women would be swarming towards the latter two actors despite their Norwood 1's?

also, glad to see Dudemon back to posting his theories on women, dating and baldness again....its always good to have some new comedy material to read...its like reading Kirstie Alley tips on weight loss.

and U-man...despite how many positive posts you may have read from women stating they don't mind or even like bald men you ALWAYS have to pick the one negative example and then extrapolate that into a massive generalization, don't you?

"one non superficial, woman admitted she didn't find her man sexy when he had George Costanza hair...(I know what case you're referring to...hes a famous hair transplant responder from another forum)...therefore...MOST women, regardless if they're superficial or not are REPULSED (you're the one who uses that word...not even the woman herself said she was REPULSED, rather she just said she likely wouldn't have found him attractive initially based solely on looks) by baldness...

 

[Boondock]

:agree: I basically second everything qball said there.

My own opinion, which I've said before, is that women's views differ considerably on baldness. I would say, on balance, it's definitely preferable to most women if a guy has hair. But I don't think it's fair to say that you completely ruin your chances if you're a bald guy, as a number of examples (not just celebrities) make clear.

I've more or less come to the conclusion that many posters here have to believe that baldness is behind their failures. If they didn't, how else would they justify their lack of success in life, or the thousands of bucks they've wasted on pointless procedures?

Believing that the world is against you can be painful. But perhaps it's less painful than admitting that the primary cause behind your misery is yourself. Hairloss becomes a Propecia to pull out whenever you realize how bad your life is, and acts as an excuse to forgive yourself of what has ultimately been your own failure as a human being.

 

[sergiotahini]

I partially agree with Dudemon, but my own observations lead me to believe that bald dudes are often disadvantaged but not completely screwed with regard to women.

I'm sure it is pretty common for younger women (think under 23 or so) to really discriminate based on baldness, just because at that age they have near limitless options (assuming they are reasonably attractive) and can be as picky as they like with regard to their dating criteria. Why date someone that is obviously flawed when there are millions of others that don't possess this flaw? However, generally speaking, as women mature they tend to put less emphasis on more superficial qualities such as color of hair, preference for things like tattoos, fetishes for particular ethnicities, etc. This adjustment probably occurs for a variety of reasons, but mainly, I would assume, they want to find someone that they would actually want to be around, and realize that qualities other than the presence or absence of hair are more important in this regard.

The way I view it, baldness is a handicap, but you can compensate. Yes, it sucks that you have to compensate for something out of your control, but that's life. I mentioned in another thread that I have a friend who is NW5 at 29, and has obviously been "bald" since the age of 20 or so. This dude is not Billy Zane or Jason Statham, he's just some dude that is in good shape and confident, and he gets women that are on average more attractive than the sort of girls most of my NW1 and 2 friends date. How does he do it? He's doesn't give a sh*t about his baldness, and actually has interests and opinions that he can share with others; this sort of stuff goes a long way once you're out of college, in my opinion. Granted, he had a very difficult time getting laid until the age of 24 or so, but since then he has done better (especially with regard to the quality of women he gets) than most of my other friends who were juggling two or three girls at once, at all times, throughout college (for you younger guys, I know what I just wrote must SUCK, but hopefully you can have some solace in knowing that if you work on yourself for the next couple of years things will get better).

Still, my handsome but alcoholic NW1 friend that is a "loser" can meet women easily, however, he can only attract bar sl*ts for one night stands (not that there's anything wrong with that). The NW5 dude (who is a professional but not earning crazy $$$, btw) is dating much classier and generally more desirable women.

Being bald sucks and just "dealing with it" is easier said than done, but I figured I'd share my thoughts and say that your sex life is not necessarily over if you go bald. You'll just have to work harder at it than you would if your genetic curse had not manifested itself. :shakehead:

 

[Boondock]

I said it before, and I'll say it again:

"They care more about the way a guy acts than the way a guy looks......MISSING PART ==>provided he looks good, or at least average or better than average."

Only then, is the way he acts more important than his looks.

It doesn't matter how you act around them, if you don't look good enough to impress them, they aren't going to care how you act enough to pay attention to you.

This is true for both guys with or without hair. If you are without hair, they expect you to be buffed, and have the body of an olmypic athelete. If you don't you are a bald loser to them.

Now, is a guy with a full head of hair subjected to the same standards?

No way Jose! They are allowed to be wimpy and out of shape - as long a their hair looks good - they will continue to score with beautiful women.

End result: bald guy loses no matter what.

Dudemon, how do you explain this guy?

http://www.thebaldtruth.com/featured-se ... -segments/

 

[Boondock]

Firstly he doesn't look bad bald which puts him in the minority and there are plenty of superficial women out there that would date him now just because he wrote a book on it.

You can practically read her mind as she confortably stares into the camera "i'm the fitty with the great tittys that he got, look how good he can do."

Theres an allure in it.

All that image shows is that the bald man needs an extra angle.

He wrote the book on it AFTER he had the success with women. He looks OK bald, but on the flip side he is skinny and 5 foot 6.

Most of us don't even NEED the success he had, but the fact that he could get it surely shows that baldness isn't in itself the biggest handicap in the world? (*Awaits next round of rationalizations*)

 

[Boondock]

I agree with what monty just said: all the image shows is that the bald man needs an additional angle.

He also looks pretty good bald, and most bald guys won't look that good. If he had not written the book, the girl standing next to him would not be there - guaranteed. She is probably just an attention wh*** (not a real girlfriend, but just using him), who is just trying to grab a piece of the spotlight while riding on the coat tails of the "pickup artist's" success with his book.

In other words, if there weren't plenty of "photo ops" and "exposure" in it for her, the phoney blond bimbo standing next to him probably wouldn't be caught dead with that guy.

As soon as she gets enough "high society exposure" for herself, she'll soon be banging more handsome guys (with full heads of hair), and she'll leave him in the dust.

if she puts out for him, I bet she charges him for it, and he pays her.

:whistle:

I'd bet my life savings on it.

What a ridiculous post. Even if that girl in particular's with him for the book, he got the vast majority of girls before he wrote the damn thing. Furthermore, he didn't walk around nightclubs saying: "Hi, I'm a New York Times journalist" - (not that it's a hugely attractive job title anyway). He used a pseudonym, or his first name. None of these girls would have known who the hell he was; and, like I say, he wasn't really anybody famous then anyway.

I agree that he looks quite good bald, but the difference is not so great that he can get hundreds of girls, and folks here claim they can get none. Do you think how it "fits" him makes that big a difference?

The reality is that being bald is a handicap, but the attitude of many members here, and their general lack of belief in themselves - which, believe me, girls will pick up on in a second - is hurting your chances much more.

 

[Nashville Hairline]

One thing that also struck me about the Neil Strauss book is in the the early days while he refined his pulling technique is never once when he was being shot down by literally hundreds of women did he think 'its cos I'm bald', he just carried on refining it.

It does make me think if you have a thicker skin and a high self-esteem to begin with then the hairloss thing wont bother you as much. Its just a shame for most of us losing our hair reveals to us just how paper thin our self-worth always was.