In Defense Of Improving Your Looks (w/pics)

michel sapin

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can i ask you how old were you in the first pic? what was your Norwood when you were 23 yo? thanks man.
You are using liquid minoxidil?
 
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tellersquill

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can i ask you how old were you in the first pic? what was your Norwood when you were 23 yo? thanks man.
You are using liquid minoxidil?
The first pictures are mid twenties and the last two are from me at 29 (I'm now 30).

I think it shows how much weight lifting and making an effort with fashion and hair style can really help out.

I never realised how much building muscle and losing fat helped your face. I think it brings out the jawline or something and for a man that makes us better looking.
 

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when you were 23 , you were losing your hair ? or you had a perfect hairline ?
Just to know, becuse if i could reach 30 with your head of hair i would be really happy
 
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when you were 23 , you were losing your hair ? or you had a perfect hairline ?
Just to know, becuse if i could reach 30 with your head of hair i would be really happy
I was losing my hair at 23 but it wasn't noticeable.

Hair loss happens at different rates for different people.

You will see that some people on this forum lose most of their hair in five years - whereas some guys only lose a norwood stage every ten years.

People in my family tend to lose their hair very slowly.

I can see myself as lucky for having slow hair loss, or unlucky because I have hair loss in the first place.
 

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Well done man.

A good haircut, beard length/style, decent muscles and choice of clothes has helped me hugely. Probably went from a 4 to a 6. The thing is most people who think "that the cards we are dealt with are all we have and that's the end of it" do not mean that style and attire aren't important, more that your potential is limited by genetics. If you short and ugly your potential might be 3/10 with a good haircut, style and clothes. But even a 6'4" 10/10 looks-wise lad can look sh*t if he lets himself get fat, dresses sh*t and has a sh*t haircut.
 
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Well done man.

A good haircut, beard length/style, decent muscles and choice of clothes has helped me hugely. Probably went from a 4 to a 6. The thing is most people who think "that the cards we are dealt with are all we have and that's the end of it" do not mean that style and attire aren't important, more that your potential is limited by genetics. If you short and ugly your potential might be 3/10 with a good haircut, style and clothes. But even a 6'4" 10/10 looks-wise lad can look sh*t if he lets himself get fat, dresses sh*t and has a sh*t haircut.
Thanks.

I think I was probably around a 5 back then - I'd describe myself as completely average and mundane at that period of my life.

It is great how much muscle and low body fat helps - changes the face shape completely. I'm not even finished on my transformation either - I'm 15% body fat right now and I'm taking it down to 10%. After that I plan on gaining ten pounds of muscle.

I know some people have different starting points - I started at a 4/5 and ended up a 6/7. Some people may be a 3 and take it to a 5. But that's still something. Being a 5 can at least get you in the dating game.

Anyway, I hope this thread is uplifting to people who don't feel so good about themselves right now.
 

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The thing I dont understand is what are you suggesting to do exactly ? assuming I am already average weight , brush my teeth ,ect. I am very short and have a thin body type. I exercise regularly ( lifting and running) but the amount of time it would take for me to actually look " big" isnt worth it to me at this point.

I understand how you can improve if you have neglected in some areas but I still think this only applies to some people. If I could improve my looks , I gladly would however based on my situation I dont think theres really much I can do outside of getting RIPPED.

you look good in the photos , I would love to look like that. the reason why hair loss bothers me in the first place is because it will kill my ability to look like " a normal guy". I dont want to look great , but I want to look good enough where I dont get anxiety to go in public.
 

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for me my main pb is my hairloss too . Just want to recover my temple . Do't want to be a male model , just a normal 23 yo guy who doesn't have to take dht blocker and apply minoxidil twice a day, thinking about hair loss all day long.
 

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I never realised how much building muscle and losing fat helped your face. I think it brings out the jawline or something and for a man that makes us better looking.
 
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The thing I dont understand is what are you suggesting to do exactly ? assuming I am already average weight , brush my teeth ,ect. I am very short and have a thin body type. I exercise regularly ( lifting and running) but the amount of time it would take for me to actually look " big" isnt worth it to me at this point.

I understand how you can improve if you have neglected in some areas but I still think this only applies to some people. If I could improve my looks , I gladly would however based on my situation I dont think theres really much I can do outside of getting RIPPED.

you look good in the photos , I would love to look like that. the reason why hair loss bothers me in the first place is because it will kill my ability to look like " a normal guy". I dont want to look great , but I want to look good enough where I dont get anxiety to go in public.
Just improve yourself as much as you can.

Build muscle. Get a haircut that suits your hairline, use toppik and get on treatments. Dress well. Eat well.

I bet you don't look half as bad as you think and I bet you can look a whole let better if you work at it.
 
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so have you had more success with a shaved head or with the grown out hair?
Impossible to tell.

I only use tinder for dating and the girl I was with when I shaved it didn't mind either way.

I'm fully single and can get dates with average women just fine right now. (I can be quite lazy with it though and tend to only meet a few people a month - on average I sleep with a new person every month but that's getting boring these days).

One of the things that holds me back is I'm not working at 30 because I'm finishing my degree for the next year. I think this is why I tend to meet women 22-27 who don't mind about wealth just yet.
 

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on average I sleep with a new person every month but that's getting boring these days).

Oh please! Boring? ;)
I guess I'm just a man of variety. Because that's how I like it.
Being in love with just one person is nice and all. But for me it's not a nessecity. I mean, getting to see a different set of tits up close every month can't be boring....can it?
 
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Oh please! Boring? ;)
I guess I'm just a man of variety. Because that's how I like it.
Being in love with just one person is nice and all. But for me it's not a nessecity. I mean, getting to see a different set of tits up close every month can't be boring....can it?
How many people have you slept with?

I've slept with over 30 people and it does get boring after you've seen it all and done it all.

The problem with us men is we seek long term gratification (a quick f***) over long term gratification (a healthy relationship).
 

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How many people have you slept with?

I've slept with over 30 people and it does get boring after you've seen it all and done it all.

The problem with us men is we seek long term gratification (a quick f***) over long term gratification (a healthy relationship).

I've lost count.
Seriously.. a lot! Most likely over the 30 mark. And I still can't get enough. I just love it!
But I don't disrespect women in any way. I don't just f*** and throw em away.
 
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I've lost count.
Seriously.. a lot! Most likely over the 30 mark. And I still can't get enough. I just love it!
But I don't disrespect women in any way. I don't just f*** and throw em away.
Yeah, sleeping around isn't disrespectful.

I find it depressing. I don't want to be some f*** boy who shags his way through life when I'm forty.
 

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Its good how I tricked even hair loss sufferers. Its all down to a good hair style and a touch of toppik at the front.

(the picture is taking under harsh light so you can see everthing!)
So you are implying that everyone who is balding can look like you do in the fist post, last photo...
with a good amount of toppik and blow-drying your hair?
But then again, good for you, you seem like a good person, I think you are lucky if you think that, keep up the good work ;)
 

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I find it depressing. I don't want to be some f*** boy who shags his way through life when I'm forty.

Well, that's where I'm at right now. Not depressed.
Everyone is different when it comes to sex and love. Most want to settle down while others just want to be free. That's me. And if you want to remain single, you still need sex.

I can tell you one thing. Once married, sex will dry up. I have friends who are young and married and they're complining about not getting it anymore. I know sex isn't the be all end all, and you can grow old with someone without regular sex and be happy. But that is more or less in an advanced older age. Sex between 2 people can dry up early in life. Even if they love each other and get along. Even if they can satisfy their partner to climax.

Relationships go stale. For the majority of people. Then it's just about going through the motions.
 
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Well, that's where I'm at right now. Not depressed.
Everyone is different when it comes to sex and love. Most want to settle down while others just want to be free. That's me. And if you want to remain single, you still need sex.

I can tell you one thing. Once married, sex will dry up. I have friends who are young and married and they're complining about not getting it anymore. I know sex isn't the be all end all, and you can grow old with someone without regular sex and be happy. But that is more or less in an advanced older age. Sex between 2 people can dry up early in life. Even if they love each other and get along. Even if they can satisfy their partner to climax.

Relationships go stale. For the majority of people. Then it's just about going through the motions.
Its okay if sex dries up a bit for me. As long as I'm in a great relationship.

You can always use p**rn and just have good sex once a week - its no big deal for me.
 
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