shookwun
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Is finasteride really as awful as the internet makes it out?
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nice bro, finasteride is chill for me 2 it gave me some slight gyno though but im so tempted to take it but must wait to see a Doctor first about this.. but im really looking forward to get back on it.. i was 2 month in and my hair looked better than i ever could remember!
Notcoolanymore
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I would say the best advice is the one given by the most reasonable sounding people. I have read the experiences from quite a few guys that say they have gotten sides. They don't live in this section writing about how finasteride destroyed their lives, made their D fall off, etc. I believe those guys and it is unfortunate that they got sides. Then you have the irrational guys that talk merck conspiracies, blame finasteride for every ailment under the sun, insist that everybody gets sides, say 85% of men really get sides instead of the 1 or 2% the clinical studies showed, etc. I would say disregard those people as most of what they have to say is just 100% garbage. Avoid those people like the plague that they are.
I m tempted to jump on finasteride but if I got sides (especially gyno) it would totally ruin my mood and make me depressed. As it stands I have a NW2 and the med isn't even guaranteed to regrow anything for me, and it might just create more problems.
I didnt expect that so many anti finasteride-trolls would be here......
Anyways if you really wanna use finasteride OP then id say
QUIT the forums.Yupp quit this place and start the finasteride and document all your progress in a journal.Write about the dose intake, any sides emerging, your libido you know the whole 9 yards.Then come back after a year and post what you found.WITH PICS(mandatory IMO)
Why am saying this is coz these forums are a heaven for suffering people to pour out their heart and ask for your help.They are ready to improve themselves coz now they have FRIENDS who will be with them and they are not alone.But now their is just too much negativity here coz some people are not ready to investigate a simple drug properly.Just check this own thread and you WILL find all the wrong things about finasteride.
"Its a feminising drug" Not true coz all finasteride does is reduce DHT in body to about 70%.You would need to shut down ALL of it and caatrate yourself.
"You will grow b**ch tits"True but reality check is needed here.Basically you have to SUPER DUMB AND HIGHLY IGNORANT to not see it coming.You can prevent/treat gyno by using natural progesterone cream.Or just by quitting finasteride and some exercises(will take ATLEAST 6 months).
"You will become estrogen dominant"
This one question/allegation is just too damn annoying.Its like saying don't look at pools, without learning how to swin YOU WILL DROWN.
I myself had to quit finasteride.Not coz i was scared or anything but coz i found out my family had fertility problems.Although it won't change a thing or two but i won't take the chance to keep my hair and lower my ability to have kids.I love them and i want them. Ill start again after i turn about 23-24.Although i doubt it coz till then we would have CB0301 till then
Anyways if you really wanna use finasteride OP then id say
QUIT the forums.Yupp quit this place and start the finasteride and document all your progress in a journal.Write about the dose intake, any sides emerging, your libido you know the whole 9 yards.Then come back after a year and post what you found.WITH PICS(mandatory IMO)
Why am saying this is coz these forums are a heaven for suffering people to pour out their heart and ask for your help.They are ready to improve themselves coz now they have FRIENDS who will be with them and they are not alone.But now their is just too much negativity here coz some people are not ready to investigate a simple drug properly.Just check this own thread and you WILL find all the wrong things about finasteride.
"Its a feminising drug" Not true coz all finasteride does is reduce DHT in body to about 70%.You would need to shut down ALL of it and caatrate yourself.
"You will grow b**ch tits"True but reality check is needed here.Basically you have to SUPER DUMB AND HIGHLY IGNORANT to not see it coming.You can prevent/treat gyno by using natural progesterone cream.Or just by quitting finasteride and some exercises(will take ATLEAST 6 months).
"You will become estrogen dominant"
This one question/allegation is just too damn annoying.Its like saying don't look at pools, without learning how to swin YOU WILL DROWN.
I myself had to quit finasteride.Not coz i was scared or anything but coz i found out my family had fertility problems.Although it won't change a thing or two but i won't take the chance to keep my hair and lower my ability to have kids.I love them and i want them. Ill start again after i turn about 23-24.Although i doubt it coz till then we would have CB0301 till then
Do you realize that you sound like a hypocrite you quit finasteride but encourage others to take it.
Maybe finasteride is not the cause for your sleep disorder? It is probably because you drink too much coffee in the afternoon.
that is probably the most avoidable side.. you will def get some nipple irritation before it actually becomes anything close to gyno
@diaboldh
When i said trolls i OFFICIALLY meant you in the post.
As for quitting finasteride and acting like a hypocrite:-
Im A-OKAY with that rather than becoming a fear monger like you are. Have you ever checked your own posts??They reek of stupidity and are ALWAYS just a waste of forum space.Anyways just PM me if you wanna continue this topic.This thread should not be about personal discussion
When i said trolls i OFFICIALLY meant you in the post.
As for quitting finasteride and acting like a hypocrite:-
Im A-OKAY with that rather than becoming a fear monger like you are. Have you ever checked your own posts??They reek of stupidity and are ALWAYS just a waste of forum space.Anyways just PM me if you wanna continue this topic.This thread should not be about personal discussion
Well I'm lots of things but stupid isn't one of them. And do you know why you are so grumpy all the time it is because your testosterone level is too low and estrogen to high.
You may think I'm a troll but there is simple and cheep way to confirm it take ZMA pill each evening for one week and see if your mood will improve. ZMA is magnesium zinc and B6 that boosts body natural T production.
You may think I'm a troll but there is simple and cheep way to confirm it take ZMA pill each evening for one week and see if your mood will improve. ZMA is magnesium zinc and B6 that boosts body natural T production.
As of now im just gonna say you are a........I can't find the word but ill say just stop trying to act like a know it all.How the **** you know what my hormone levels are??
By my mood or by my posts?? Its like saying your girl is mad at you coz she is going through her periods.
And if my estrogen is high then i would have no male pattern baldness and would have b**ch tits.
Also i ASKED you to PM me if you wanted to talk more but no you want the attention.PM is short name for private message.
By my mood or by my posts?? Its like saying your girl is mad at you coz she is going through her periods.
And if my estrogen is high then i would have no male pattern baldness and would have b**ch tits.
Also i ASKED you to PM me if you wanted to talk more but no you want the attention.PM is short name for private message.
Ok on the topic:
Why I'm saying finasteride is not a solution that is because pharmaceutical companies love to take shortcuts (and not only pharmaceutical) all big companies, how I know lets say I'm working in big company and I'm able to see things from the kitchen.
They relay on customer stupidity in order to sell crappy products. In case of Propecia (finasteride) they took advantage of side effect without even consider all other side effects this drug was never designed for hair loss it was for prostate where people have E.D already so this was not an issue to consider.
Second thing is that DHT on its own is not the bad guy everyone here seems to think of it. DHT is kind of good/bad cap it is naturally produced by the body to keep all lazy fat dudes from developing man boobs because their estrogen levels are too high compared to testosterone level. If your testosterone vs. estrogen ratio is high enough DHT will return to normal values as it will not be needed.
Human body has uncial adaptability and ways to tell you that something is wrong with it, hair loss is his way to tell you that your hormonal levels are not ok.
Cincinnati Kid
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To the OP: Most men don't have much issue taking it, otherwise it wouldn't be approved by both the FDA in the US and the MHRA in the United Kingdom. However, the amount of men that get side effects is no doubt higher than two percent. That being said, I would say an overwhelming amount of the men that experience side effects only see mild effects for a temporary time period that discontinue after a few months of the body getting used to it.
The human body is an amazing thing. It finds a way to operate at maximum capacity despite the DHT inhibition for most men, but the time frame in which it takes for that happen varies from person to person. Some would say they saw sides for two weeks and never again for the remainder of their finasteride usage, whereas some men might need a few months for their body to find its equilibrium. Even for those who decide to quit, the side effects almost always go away in a few weeks to months and your body reverts to operating the way it did prior to any finasteride usage. I took finasteride for 7.5 months and had some mild sides like watery semen and lack of morning wood that never really subsided.
I knew morning erections were a vital indication to erectile health as well as overall healthy testosterone levels. I decided to get some blood work done to see what, if any, effects finasteride usage had on my T levels. Sure enough, I was right in my assumption that finasteride negatively affected my testosterone levels because they were way down in comparison to the blood work I had done a few weeks prior to starting the drug. I immediately discontinued usage. Just like the manufacturer said, though, my side effects went away after quitting. It took about 6 weeks total, but it was a scary time because after quitting I saw additional sides as well as the sides I already had get worse. I have recovered fully though. My most recent blood work was completely normal and very comparable to my pre-finasteride levels.
Long story, short... trying the drug to halt you hair loss probably isn't nearly as dangerous as people make it out to be. You're chances of turning into one of those internet horror stories are extremely low, but there is a small faction of men that are never the same after they take it. The choice is yours.
The human body is an amazing thing. It finds a way to operate at maximum capacity despite the DHT inhibition for most men, but the time frame in which it takes for that happen varies from person to person. Some would say they saw sides for two weeks and never again for the remainder of their finasteride usage, whereas some men might need a few months for their body to find its equilibrium. Even for those who decide to quit, the side effects almost always go away in a few weeks to months and your body reverts to operating the way it did prior to any finasteride usage. I took finasteride for 7.5 months and had some mild sides like watery semen and lack of morning wood that never really subsided.
I knew morning erections were a vital indication to erectile health as well as overall healthy testosterone levels. I decided to get some blood work done to see what, if any, effects finasteride usage had on my T levels. Sure enough, I was right in my assumption that finasteride negatively affected my testosterone levels because they were way down in comparison to the blood work I had done a few weeks prior to starting the drug. I immediately discontinued usage. Just like the manufacturer said, though, my side effects went away after quitting. It took about 6 weeks total, but it was a scary time because after quitting I saw additional sides as well as the sides I already had get worse. I have recovered fully though. My most recent blood work was completely normal and very comparable to my pre-finasteride levels.
Long story, short... trying the drug to halt you hair loss probably isn't nearly as dangerous as people make it out to be. You're chances of turning into one of those internet horror stories are extremely low, but there is a small faction of men that are never the same after they take it. The choice is yours.
Judging from your own experience and what you know now are you going to take finasteride again if you are able to return back 1year in the past? And where is the guaranty that you will not be one of the unlucky few that get persistent sides?
But never mind that it is not so important for human kind if few baldies will become impotent or grow boobs that maybe even be a good thing for the planet resources.
My issue is that I have a son and as a father I'll hate to see that some online finasteride junky will give him advice to take a drug that can ruin his life without even mention sides.
Sides just come to you.They don't ask for any invitation.You are either lucky or not.Id say giving it a try BEFORE you are like 18 is risky.This diaboldh guy IS talking some sense but he is in denial that all men with hormonal problems have hair loss.Your FOLLICLES are weak to them NOT your body.To know what your problem is just consult a doctor.
It is quite simple: finasteride suppresses 70% DHT body will try to compensate by increase in percent of testosterone converted to DHT for example simple math 5% on average is converted to DHT. 5 * 170%= 8.5% .
while you take finasteride you get only 30% of 8.5% or 2.55%. You stop and body shoot you with 8.5% DHT for certain period of time until it adjust that causes huge hairloss.
while you take finasteride you get only 30% of 8.5% or 2.55%. You stop and body shoot you with 8.5% DHT for certain period of time until it adjust that causes huge hairloss.