Is it better to be a beta provider or settle for trash or be lonely?

[swingline747]

what if ur not attracted to ugly girls?

hookers

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

It all feels the same in the dark.

 

[vondoom]

A bald guy has no chance of 'finding a normal woman'. Your argument is sound and sensible but it doesn't apply to bald guys, sadly. Bald guys just want a chance to work themselves out of their situation. But, besides treatments, there is no way.

that is why you do treatments, systems, transplants...

 

[Diffused_confidence]

when it comes to looks, most likely fat is for women what bald is for men...

I disagree. The treatment for obesity has been around since the dawn of mankind. The cure for baldness if far overdue and is the only physical ailment men face with no treatment. To my amazement even shortness has extreme treatment. If I dish out 150k I could get 3 inches of height, which puts me at 6ft and 10x more desirable. It exists. There is not 1 thing that can permanently fix a norwood 7 bald man.

 

[Sarper123]

Girls are hypergamous these days.I'm 6 ft balding male and they see me as a ghost.I'd like to get reject by couple of them but they even don't let me to approach them LOL i am totally invisible for them .They treat me like a someone who has coronavirus.I even don't look bad at all
On the other hand,When i was norwood 1 guy i got laid from 2 f*****g ugly girls but for now it is pretty much over for me.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I disagree. The treatment for obesity has been around since the dawn of mankind. The cure for baldness if far overdue and is the only physical ailment men face with no treatment. To my amazement even shortness has extreme treatment. If I dish out 150k I could get 3 inches of height, which puts me at 6ft and 10x more desirable. It exists. There is not 1 thing that can permanently fix a norwood 7 bald man.

Yep. That's true except that HRT can fix many cases of hair loss depending upon the severity but maybe guys using HRT "just for the hair" don't count as men to you. And well, nothing is permanent, you have to stay on at least a couple of maintenance meds but it's better to light a candle than to curse the dark....

 

[nicoandgello]

I disagree. The treatment for obesity has been around since the dawn of mankind. The cure for baldness if far overdue and is the only physical ailment men face with no treatment. To my amazement even shortness has extreme treatment. If I dish out 150k I could get 3 inches of height, which puts me at 6ft and 10x more desirable. It exists. There is not 1 thing that can permanently fix a norwood 7 bald man.

You can get world class LL in greece for 40k

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Nothing worse than dying alone. I try to tell other MtF's that but I am non-binary so it is easier for me.

 

[doubleindemnity]

that is why you do treatments, systems, transplants...

Most guys who need these things are rightly worried about the systemic effects of finasteride and aren't a candidate for a hair transplant. minoxidil will not work for ever, even for those who respond well. So that leaves systems. Everyone on here I seem to read that people do not enjoy living with their system because they always feel paranoia and like they are hiding. So there's no perfect solution and that's why guys come on here and make threads like these.

 

[Diffused_confidence]

Yep. That's true except that HRT can fix many cases of hair loss depending upon the severity but maybe guys using HRT "just for the hair" don't count as men to you. And well, nothing is permanent, you have to stay on at least a couple of maintenance meds but it's better to light a candle than to curse the dark....

I'm not willing to go to extreme measures to save my hair. I never said men who are willing to take that route are not men but they do need to understand the risks involved. I mean I consider the limb extension surgery to be a very extreme and painful procedure just to gain a couple inches.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Girls are hypergamous these days.I'm 6 ft balding male and they see me as a ghost.I'd like to get reject by couple of them but they even don't let me to approach them LOL i am totally invisible for them .They treat me like a someone who has coronavirus.I even don't look bad at all
On the other hand,When i was norwood 1 guy i got laid from 2 f*****g ugly girls but for now it is pretty much over for me.

Nice vocab but I think that they have always looked to marry up in class or money.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I'm not willing to go to extreme measures to save my hair. I never said men who are willing to take that route are not men but they do need to understand the risks involved. I mean I consider the limb extension surgery to be a very extreme and painful procedure just to gain a couple inches.

I was just needling you a bit. You are likely healthier and more sane than many of us but we are more sane than the guys who just say, "eh. Too much trouble to take finasteride and use min. Then ten years later they are telling all of the younger guys, "don't do what I did".

 

[Diffused_confidence]

I was just needling you a bit. You are likely healthier and more sane than many of us but we are more sane than the guys who just say, "eh. Too much trouble to take finasteride and use min. Then ten years later they are telling all of the younger guys, "don't do what I did".

I take finasteride because it is fda approved and it may maintain my hair. If it doesn't and I go bald then at least I tried to save it and won't look at what if scenarios. I suppose side effects could cause regrets too but if I get side effects I would quit and if I end up with pfs then I'm just one of the extreme cases and just very unlucky. It's a risk I calculated and the outcome is what it is.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I take finasteride because it is fda approved and it may maintain my hair. If it doesn't and I go bald then at least I tried to save it and won't look at what if scenarios. I suppose side effects could cause regrets too but if I get side effects I would quit and if I end up with pfs then I'm just one of the extreme cases and just very unlucky. It's a risk I calculated and the outcome is what it is.

You know. When I went on finasteride in '98, we were elated and thrilled to have something in addition to minoxidil and in pill form. I do not understand all of the finasteride bashing but I doubt that some of these folks are benevolent actors and they all seem to impute some sort of malevolence on the part of Merck and bash Merck, then they go on the experimental threads and whine about "why won't big pharm even bother to help us"? It's not true anyway about big pharm since they love money but yeah, I find the entire situation ironic.

 

[vondoom]

I disagree. The treatment for obesity has been around since the dawn of mankind. The cure for baldness if far overdue and is the only physical ailment men face with no treatment. To my amazement even shortness has extreme treatment. If I dish out 150k I could get 3 inches of height, which puts me at 6ft and 10x more desirable. It exists. There is not 1 thing that can permanently fix a norwood 7

you can disagree all you want, it still looks like bald equals fat...

if you can anything against it, by all means, do it...
not sure about leg extension, since i never heard anyone complaining about height in real life ever, i only came across that like a year ago and i find it hilarious... must either be in the usa, or again some people spend too much time on the internet...
also maybe doesnt matter that much in real life... apparently that is also online dating nonsense... i mean if you want to date people who say “i only date over 6’”, then a) i also question your your reasons for dating and b) you are feeding the fire...

 

[vondoom]

Girls are hypergamous these days.I'm 6 ft balding male and they see me as a ghost.I'd like to get reject by couple of them but they even don't let me to approach them LOL i am totally invisible for them .They treat me like a someone who has coronavirus.I even don't look bad at all
On the other hand,When i was norwood 1 guy i got laid from 2 f*****g ugly girls but for now it is pretty much over for me.

if its you in you avatar, hair isnt the problem...

 

[vondoom]

Most guys who need these things are rightly worried about the systemic effects of finasteride and aren't a candidate for a hair transplant. minoxidil will not work for ever, even for those who respond well. So that leaves systems. Everyone on here I seem to read that people do not enjoy living with their system because they always feel paranoia and like they are hiding. So there's no perfect solution and that's why guys come on here and make threads like these.

and you forget that people rather complain from the safety
of their basement instead of actually doing something...
i see people crying here all day and noone even mentions what they are doing against it, at least not really... because potential sides, which you wouldnt even find out until you actually try it...

transplants are expensive, that is something i understand... also requires meda...

well as you said it, its peoples paranoia with a system, noone will find out if you invest a bit more until you tell them...
well and of course you shouldt show up with a ten cm towering quiff all of a sudden, just because everyone has that now (probably because they think they are manlets)... if you go for something natural it should be okay... but compensating has a lot of different faces^^

 

[czecha]

Just coom bro

 

[Oknow]

what if ur not attracted to ugly girls?

can’t have it both ways

on one hand complain that women are shallow, when you are exactly the same lol!

 

[Oknow]

I still think that 'low skilled job etc' doesn't belong in the same list. Is it even important...


This kind of thinking works for guys with hair but not for bald guys. As I said, if a bald guy can attract a single mother who is willing to stay with him, he is doing better than average in dating. For guys with hair, single mother would be perhaps less desirable.

the most fun women I’ve met are women who are not in high flying jobs

they are more down to earth, don’t think too much, have modest expectations and are more likely down to f***

corporate women are generally arrogant as sh*t