Is There Any Anti-depressant Or Anti-anxiety Medicine With Least Amount Of Hair Loss ?

[Bobster231]

Anxiolytics,like GABA agonists,don't treat anxiety disorders.They provide temporary symptomatic relief.Longterm,they will put you in a vicious cycle with severe side effects.
Anxiety disorders are treated with anti-depressants and most importantly with lifestyle changes that deal with the initial cause of the disorder.
The first question you need to ask yourself for choosing the right medicine is:Has your appetite increased or decreased?

Anti depressants can cause long term vicious side effects too.

 

[Calchas]

Anti depressants can cause long term vicious side effects too.

Of course,that's why it's important to choose the right medicine for each case.
If someone experiences loss of appetite and is prescribed an anti-depressant that causes further decrease in appetite,it will certainly deteriorate his condition.
As a person who has struggled with chronic clinical depression,i had to study the pharmacology of anti-depressants myself, to finally(after terrible experiences with ''doctors'') find the correct substance for the physiotype of my disorder.

 

[Massive]

@Roberto_72 @DoctorHouse @Bobster231 @Swoop @DoctorHouse @shookwun @Dench57 @Giiizmo @Janko @Calchas

*Long post, but PLEASE bare with me, I REALLY need some help*
Guys, THANK YOU SO MUCH! I'm so glad that in a case like this there are people out there willing to help others online, and I feel like I get more feedback here than any other doctor out there. I'm using this opportunity where I feel like that with a bit of effor I'll manage to write a full post. I need help, I really do. I apologize for referncing so many dear users at once, but I needed to summon whoever posted here with any bit of valuable information.
I'm not too good at writing but I'll try to break it down.


Before my constant head pressures/anxiety started:
Generally pretty healthy 32 years old. Work out often. Used to be 220lbs+ now I'm around 195 (cuz I can't really work out anymore like I used to). I do have polycystic kidney disease, but for now my kidneys are still fine, altho my blood pressure is usually is the 130s / 80s range and sometimes goes to 140s / 90s, and rarely to 150s / 90s, but most of the I make sure it doesn't much over 140 / 90 and keep it at pre-hypertension stage. I used to be quite "brave", now I fear about every little thing and my life has completely changed.

How it started:
It was about 2+ months ago, when I first started noticing a strong pressure feeling in my forehead, although at the time I thought it's just a headache, so I drank some coffee like I usually do, but this time to avail. I couldn't sleep much that night and only fell asleep in the morning, the whole night I felt a bit wierd but I didn't stress about it. Woke up in the evening and felt fine, took a shower, and after the shower started feeling pressures in my head, but this time quite strong. I felt lightheaded, dizzy, and strong pressures in my forehead and eyes, usually the type of eye pressure I get is that feel like it's at the top of the eyeballs, and I was very terrified because this was my first time every experiencing this. I went to the ER, blood work came fine, bp at time was 150 / 100 with 100 pulse, they just gave me some paracetamol and Vaben and released me in the morning. I thought this was a one time thing.
The next day I thought I felt fine and wanted to go to the gym but as soon as I left my house I started feeling pressures in head and eyes and I was lightheaded and confused and it feels like I don't know where I am and I just wanted to pull any car I see on the street and ask them to drive me back home, but I managed to walk back home.

That's when I started slowly dropping everything I was taking, I quit Propecia, minoxidil, caffeine, alcohol, whey, creatine, all the supplements I was taking. It felt like I was very fragile and anything could set me off so I eventually quit everything.
So at first, I still managed to get a "good day" here and there, but eventually it seemed like the head pressures are there 24/7, and lightheaded feeling is almost always there, like I almost never feel I am myself anymore, and I don't wanna even mention the anxiety and panic attacks which can last for hours upon hours.


How I feel now (literally everyday) :
It seems like the head pressures just love my head 24/7. Normally there's always a pressure at the forehead, and the eyeballs themselves feel like there's a constant pressure on them, then I sometimes get pressure around my cheeks and neck a bit, and another thing which started recently is I also get pressure at the top and sides of my head, it feels like my head is in a vice grip or like something is eating my brain from the inside as funny as it sounds. The pressure at the top of my head where the crown is literally killing me. The lightheaded feeling is always there to some sort of degree which frankly can be quite terryfing especially if I start getting kinda dizzy also. On top of the headpressures and lighthead I also suffer from anxiety attacks which I don't know if I bring them upon myself or they came by themselves. Also, with the anxiety attacks there is always nausea following with it damnit. But the main reason I suffer from anxiety attacks is because I have no clue what's going on with me, some days it feels like I'm about to die and other days it feels like there's a light at the end of the tunnel. I can't really function and when I feel just slightly better I start making arrangements and then I end up not being able to leave the house. I'm very dependant on my family at the moment. Gym is literally a thing of the past, if I'm lucky I'll go once a week and do some weights that any twink can do, when I'm unlucky the headpressures start intensifying during the workout and I just feel so damn terrible like I don't know where I am anymore and what's going on around me. I used to not let my self weigh below 220 and now I couldn't care less, I'm 195 and all I care is just my health. I wanna say that I don't care about hair anymore but for the moment I don't give a sh*t that's why I quit everything I was taking and I just wanna be normal again, I miss my old self. Just for the record, after 9+ months on propecia and 5+ months on minoxidil foam (twice a day), my hair was starting to look quite good that I didn't have to use Toppik anymore so it's sad I'll prolly lose all the hair I "worked hard for", also biotin (5mg) and msm powder (5-10grams) a day might have slightly helped altogether altho I wouldn't really factor it.


Advice for treatment:
At the moment I'm not taking anything other than a multi vitamin once in a while. I have a bunch of these "relaxing" OTC sh*t like passiflora, valerian, basically stuff like that which I'm not sure if it really does anything. I've been off propecia for 3 weeks, although for the last 2 months I been doing lots of trial and error so on average for the last 2 months I was probably only taking it for 2-3 days a week at most, but eventually decided my health is more important and laid off it. I haven't used minoxidil in over a week, but even before the last time I used it I was using it maybe once or twice a week, as I initially thought minoxidil was causing me the headpressures but at the same time I didn't wanna quit treating my hair.

I used paracetamol quite often for the headaches and head pressures altho it barely does anything. I'm not really living, I'm basically just surviving the day. I thought I'm going to see a phsycatrist much sooner through my medical insurance but it turns out the wait is a bit long, so I might go and see one privately, or perhaps ask my doctor to prescribe my something to ease off the edge. I told my Doctor to give me something until I start seeing the pyschatrist and he gave me Lexapro, I haven't started taking it, and after reading about it, I'd rather not start a med like that with a psych's supervision. Should I go for now ask for something like Xanax so I can use sparingly if I really need it ?
As for OTC stuff, some of u mentioned GABA and 5HTP so I guess I could try that in the mean while. Keep in mind that it's very hard for me to even look up stuff online, most of the time I just can't even bring myself to read more than a sentence.

So please guys, any advice is welcome, I can't express how much the support means to me at a time like this.

 

[Roberto_72]

@Roberto_72 @DoctorHouse @Bobster231 @Swoop @DoctorHouse @shookwun @Dench57 @Giiizmo @Janko @Calchas

*Long post, but PLEASE bare with me, I REALLY need some help*
Guys, THANK YOU SO MUCH! I'm so glad that in a case like this there are people out there willing to help others online, and I feel like I get more feedback here than any other doctor out there. I'm using this opportunity where I feel like that with a bit of effor I'll manage to write a full post. I need help, I really do. I apologize for referncing so many dear users at once, but I needed to summon whoever posted here with any bit of valuable information.
I'm not too good at writing but I'll try to break it down.


Before my constant head pressures/anxiety started:
Generally pretty healthy 32 years old. Work out often. Used to be 220lbs+ now I'm around 195 (cuz I can't really work out anymore like I used to). I do have polycystic kidney disease, but for now my kidneys are still fine, altho my blood pressure is usually is the 130s / 80s range and sometimes goes to 140s / 90s, and rarely to 150s / 90s, but most of the I make sure it doesn't much over 140 / 90 and keep it at pre-hypertension stage. I used to be quite "brave", now I fear about every little thing and my life has completely changed.

How it started:
It was about 2+ months ago, when I first started noticing a strong pressure feeling in my forehead, although at the time I thought it's just a headache, so I drank some coffee like I usually do, but this time to avail. I couldn't sleep much that night and only fell asleep in the morning, the whole night I felt a bit wierd but I didn't stress about it. Woke up in the evening and felt fine, took a shower, and after the shower started feeling pressures in my head, but this time quite strong. I felt lightheaded, dizzy, and strong pressures in my forehead and eyes, usually the type of eye pressure I get is that feel like it's at the top of the eyeballs, and I was very terrified because this was my first time every experiencing this. I went to the ER, blood work came fine, bp at time was 150 / 100 with 100 pulse, they just gave me some paracetamol and Vaben and released me in the morning. I thought this was a one time thing.
The next day I thought I felt fine and wanted to go to the gym but as soon as I left my house I started feeling pressures in head and eyes and I was lightheaded and confused and it feels like I don't know where I am and I just wanted to pull any car I see on the street and ask them to drive me back home, but I managed to walk back home.

That's when I started slowly dropping everything I was taking, I quit Propecia, minoxidil, caffeine, alcohol, whey, creatine, all the supplements I was taking. It felt like I was very fragile and anything could set me off so I eventually quit everything.
So at first, I still managed to get a "good day" here and there, but eventually it seemed like the head pressures are there 24/7, and lightheaded feeling is almost always there, like I almost never feel I am myself anymore, and I don't wanna even mention the anxiety and panic attacks which can last for hours upon hours.


How I feel now (literally everyday) :
It seems like the head pressures just love my head 24/7. Normally there's always a pressure at the forehead, and the eyeballs themselves feel like there's a constant pressure on them, then I sometimes get pressure around my cheeks and neck a bit, and another thing which started recently is I also get pressure at the top and sides of my head, it feels like my head is in a vice grip or like something is eating my brain from the inside as funny as it sounds. The pressure at the top of my head where the crown is literally killing me. The lightheaded feeling is always there to some sort of degree which frankly can be quite terryfing especially if I start getting kinda dizzy also. On top of the headpressures and lighthead I also suffer from anxiety attacks which I don't know if I bring them upon myself or they came by themselves. Also, with the anxiety attacks there is always nausea following with it damnit. But the main reason I suffer from anxiety attacks is because I have no clue what's going on with me, some days it feels like I'm about to die and other days it feels like there's a light at the end of the tunnel. I can't really function and when I feel just slightly better I start making arrangements and then I end up not being able to leave the house. I'm very dependant on my family at the moment. Gym is literally a thing of the past, if I'm lucky I'll go once a week and do some weights that any twink can do, when I'm unlucky the headpressures start intensifying during the workout and I just feel so damn terrible like I don't know where I am anymore and what's going on around me. I used to not let my self weigh below 220 and now I couldn't care less, I'm 195 and all I care is just my health. I wanna say that I don't care about hair anymore but for the moment I don't give a sh*t that's why I quit everything I was taking and I just wanna be normal again, I miss my old self. Just for the record, after 9+ months on propecia and 5+ months on minoxidil foam (twice a day), my hair was starting to look quite good that I didn't have to use Toppik anymore so it's sad I'll prolly lose all the hair I "worked hard for", also biotin (5mg) and msm powder (5-10grams) a day might have slightly helped altogether altho I wouldn't really factor it.


Advice for treatment:
At the moment I'm not taking anything other than a multi vitamin once in a while. I have a bunch of these "relaxing" OTC sh*t like passiflora, valerian, basically stuff like that which I'm not sure if it really does anything. I've been off propecia for 3 weeks, although for the last 2 months I been doing lots of trial and error so on average for the last 2 months I was probably only taking it for 2-3 days a week at most, but eventually decided my health is more important and laid off it. I haven't used minoxidil in over a week, but even before the last time I used it I was using it maybe once or twice a week, as I initially thought minoxidil was causing me the headpressures but at the same time I didn't wanna quit treating my hair.

I used paracetamol quite often for the headaches and head pressures altho it barely does anything. I'm not really living, I'm basically just surviving the day. I thought I'm going to see a phsycatrist much sooner through my medical insurance but it turns out the wait is a bit long, so I might go and see one privately, or perhaps ask my doctor to prescribe my something to ease off the edge. I told my Doctor to give me something until I start seeing the pyschatrist and he gave me Lexapro, I haven't started taking it, and after reading about it, I'd rather not start a med like that with a psych's supervision. Should I go for now ask for something like Xanax so I can use sparingly if I really need it ?
As for OTC stuff, some of u mentioned GABA and 5HTP so I guess I could try that in the mean while. Keep in mind that it's very hard for me to even look up stuff online, most of the time I just can't even bring myself to read more than a sentence.

So please guys, any advice is welcome, I can't express how much the support means to me at a time like this.

I am no doctor but it seems you suffer from a lot of stress and high blood pressure does not help.

Apart from that, if I were your doctor I would prescribe a CAT scan of the head for peace of mind.

I would not - if I were you - start Xanax or benzos without a doctor's supervision because it may very soon turn into addition. Plus, benzos without an antidepressant can deplete your mood.

 

[DoctorHouse]

You need to have a full neurological work up with an MRI/CAT scan of the head immediately. Your blood pressure needs to monitored closely and make sure you take it when you feel the head pressure. Make sure you see an ophthalmologist if your MRI/CAT scan is normal. And once those all come out normal, you should see a psychiatrist for stress/anxiety management.

 

[Janko]

Hey man. I completely support DoctorHouse. You should go to neurologist. Anyway you problem with pressure in head and anxiety attack completely describe my uncle who had depression. The Doctor told us, that its typical for this patients to have heart problems, pressure in head etc. Also to Xanax. My father is a business manager in pharma company and he told me how problematic Xanax is. Also how big problem it is in USA, that everyone takes it. Unfortunately I am no specialist in chem so I don´t understand it, but from what I understood was, that after long time on Xanax your neuronal excitation slows down. You seem like a really clever guy, so it would be a pity to get dumb.
Take care and hope you get well

 

[November Rain]

To the OP I think anti depressants are overrated, if there was a pill that could take away the blues just about everybody would take it.
Billions of dollars are lost each year in revenue due to people being depressed and not going to school, work etc. Schedule one drugs, as they call them, are very effective in treating depression, alcohol and other drugs,even they have their ups and downs, the plateau effect of taking any type of drugs can be tough and leave you in worse condition than what you started with.
I've had a medical condition for over ten years, and I can honestly say that by taking meds your lucky to get "even" mentally, and you have to build up from there, no drug or person will make you happy, you have to be happy for yourself. If I could choose to be happy and drug free I would.
I wish I had the freedom of not taking my prescription pills everywhere I go, It's a nuisance to say the least. Whatever route you decide, I wish you all the best.

 

[shookwun]

To the OP I think anti depressants are overrated, if there was a pill that could take away the blues just about everybody would take it.
Billions of dollars are lost each year in revenue due to people being depressed and not going to school, work etc. Schedule one drugs, as they call them, are very effective in treating depression, alcohol and other drugs,even they have their ups and downs, the plateau effect of taking any type of drugs can be tough and leave you in worse condition than what you started with.
I've had a medical condition for over ten years, and I can honestly say that by taking meds your lucky to get "even" mentally, and you have to build up from there, no drug or person will make you happy, you have to be happy for yourself. If I could choose to be happy and drug free I would.
I wish I had the freedom of not taking my prescription pills everywhere I go, It's a nuisance to say the least. Whatever route you decide, I wish you all the best.

How long have you been a walking pharmacy for?


Agree. Anti-depressant, and anxiety medication will have no benefit, and merit on someone who's chemical structure is balanced, that's the whole point of these medications is to balance what you lack.


Hes depressed because he doesn't have hair not because theres a dopamine, and serotonin deficiency,.

In other words he needs hair restoration.

absolutely retarded to try and go on anti-depressants because you are sad over your hair. Essentially just looking for escape, and way to cope. (druggie)



people take these drugs because they dont have balanced hormone levels.

 

[November Rain]

I've been a walking pharmacy since early 2001. On another note,The long term effects of a lot of these prescription drugs are unknown,most of them are new, but in some cases it's do or die, I understand,it's rough in some instances, the meds can cause you other health problems, myself I have hyper tension, seizure disorder which I never had before taking my prescriptions. You can also be a "druggie" without a dealer, your doctor can prescribe you anything and not give a _____ as long as the moneys good. One of my former friends does drugs he's years younger, he became a prescribed addict in the worst way, he lives just to take drugs. Myself, I want to get off of all of my prescriptions, but I can't for fear of dying a horrible death due to my physical and mental ailments. Also shookwun, I was wondering why your on the gear? Do you have a hormone deficency or do you just take them for recreation? I'm not trying to critisize, I am just interested, I just want to know from your perspective the ups and downs of the gear.

 

[shookwun]

I've been a walking pharmacy since early 2001. On another note,The long term effects of a lot of these prescription drugs are unknown,most of them are new, but in some cases it's do or die, I understand,it's rough in some instances, the meds can cause you other health problems, myself I have hyper tension, seizure disorder which I never had before taking my prescriptions. You can also be a "druggie" without a dealer, your doctor can prescribe you anything and not give a _____ as long as the moneys good. One of my former friends does drugs he's years younger, he became a prescribed addict in the worst way, he lives just to take drugs. Myself, I want to get off of all of my prescriptions, but I can't for fear of dying a horrible death due to my physical and mental ailments. Also shookwun, I was wondering why your on the gear? Do you have a hormone deficency or do you just take them for recreation? I'm not trying to critisize, I am just interested, I just want to know from your perspective the ups and downs of the gear.

I dont recommend anyone to go on gear, and steroids. It has become an addiction for me, despite not seeing the signs. it's one of those durgs that creep up on you, and you don't ever think you have a problem until you realise that you dont want to come off. Granted its not a terrible addiction, it still had an addictive effect on me.

I do believe the gear is starting to take it's toll on me mentally. I have become much more paranoid, and anxious for no given reason. Looking back, I never experienced this. I have always had minor anxiety, but I feel like the steroids have heightened the mental side effects.

I never believed in the sides until I started doing more research and realized that paranoia is a real side effect for long term users.

Always hear about bodybuilders taking nubain, and anti-anxiety medication just to feel normal. Well, now I understand why they do. All though I am on baby doses, it definitely has had an effect on me mentally.

 

[November Rain]

Thanks for sharing your post Shookwun, I wish you well.

 

[rclark]

How long have you been a walking pharmacy for?


Agree. Anti-depressant, and anxiety medication will have no benefit, and merit on someone who's chemical structure is balanced, that's the whole point of these medications is to balance what you lack.


Hes depressed because he doesn't have hair not because theres a dopamine, and serotonin deficiency,.

In other words he needs hair restoration.

absolutely retarded to try and go on anti-depressants because you are sad over your hair. Essentially just looking for escape, and way to cope. (druggie)



people take these drugs because they dont have balanced hormone levels.

Need some drugs.

Know any place I can get some cocaine?

 

[rclark]

I am no doctor but it seems you suffer from a lot of stress and high blood pressure does not help.

Apart from that, if I were your doctor I would prescribe a CAT scan of the head for peace of mind.

I would not - if I were you - start Xanax or benzos without a doctor's supervision because it may very soon turn into addition. Plus, benzos without an antidepressant can deplete your mood.

They are so addicting. That's true. I take them every night. .. That's all I'm going to say. Even on weekends.