Is There Any Generic Finasteride Available To Deliver In Eu?

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What I think ?

If you're comf with oral, stick with it.
Topical has a purpose, and its lowering dht serum as many as possible.

If you dont suffer consequences with pluriannual use of 1mg orally, there's no reason for a debate.

Nah I'm not talking about the sides. Not worried about them, am in bilogical prime, so..Until 35 I'm good about that I would say.
More of what of future holds for us and the bit reagarding the contraception sex.

 

[badhabiz]

Nah I'm not talking about the sides. Not worried about them, am in bilogical prime, so..Until 35 I'm good about that I would say.
More of what of future holds for us and the bit reagarding the contraception sex.

Doesnt work like that, but i mean, thats ok.
Get generic fina and you're good

 

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Doesnt work like that, but i mean, thats ok.

What you're referring to? Elaborate.

 

[badhabiz]

What you're referring to? Elaborate.

Its not a matter of age because its not a matter of testosterone decline.
Its still uncertain if its only hormonal disbalance (= estrogens spyke caused by excess T pushed by fina that cant convert into dht) or also neurosteroids/allopregnolone deprivation, but for sure its not a matter of declining testosterone if we're talking about sexual side effects.
In fact, several people who suffer from it it have perfect hormonal pannel.
So, your age is not a guarantee of anything.
Said that, alot of people dont suffer any consequences from ages on propecia.
But no one can promise you a decade with no issues. No one serious that is in the matter

 

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Its not a matter of age because its not a matter of testosterone decline.
Its still uncertain if its only hormonal disbalance (= estrogens spyke caused by excess T pushed by fina that cant convert into dht) or also neurosteroids/allopregnolone deprivation, but for sure its not a matter of declining testosterone if we're talking about sexual side effects.
In fact, several people who suffer from it it have perfect hormonal pannel.
So, your age is not a guarantee of anything.
Said that, alot of people dont suffer any consequences from ages on propecia.
But no one can promise you a decade with no issues. No one serious that is in the matter

Valid point there.
It's just as well, that I don't feel good being on pills for more than a decade. I don't know, it's not a great feeling to think about. Just am positive that a therapy to rejuvenate and make existing hair more resistant to androgens will come out in 10 years of time. I think I and we all with similar situation are just gonna make it. Just need to hold on for 10 years.

 

[Inigo1202]

Thanks for your thoughts, mate. I hope finasteride will work for me next 5 years. Taking into account that my uncle was completely bald at 25 and my cousin at 31, I'm concerned that my Androgenetic Alopecia will be too agressive for 1mg finasteride to work - maintain what I have at the moment. Hopefully it will be enough. I'm really happy and relieved with my hair now, they're not as good as they were a year ago, but still similar, noone would actually notice they're worse or that I'm balding. Actually got so relaxed about it, I stopped thinking and concerning about my hair, that I started to forget to take a pill in these last 7 days. Think I missed 3 times, lol. If only this hair could last as long as possible. May I ask, when you say family history, those particular relatives are completely bald? At what age?

You're not any more positive that there will be something out in shorter time frame? I'm positive I could last with pills up to 10 years, but then it would be just too much to go further. I'm not concerned now as I'm biologically in my prime and am physically active almost every day and am naturally a testosterone animal as I like to name myself, lol. But since there's such a race going on to find solution in hairloss, I think this would come sooner than 10 years. I'm positive on one side, but on the other I think there's a damn billion race out there. I think solution would come, but not cheap when the only first one comes out. When competitors will join the market, the price will go down. I'm positive that in 10 years we're set for a better solution.
As regards to minoxidil and all that topical crap..I mean, even if there is topical finasteride or topical anti-androgens and new solutions applied topically..I mean, to do that daily? C'mon, man. That's no easy management! You lose so much time, and psychologically if you have the concern to rub something on your head daily, there's psychological negative consequences and you absolutely lose focus on life - its important things. Its meaning. To take a pill it takes a second and forget about it. You go on a holiday and you need to think how you will have to rub something on your head. You go to your GF, sleep there, and you will have to think you have to put smth on your head, and by a chance an anti-androgen, and then you can't go in bed with her, because she must not absorb it. Simply, it's crap. Psychologically it's too negative. Only in case a shampoo would do that, but not a chance in our life time.

May I ask, you have an intimate relationship? Because, they're saying everywhere how woman should not touch finasteride / absorb it in any ways. Meaning that women should not "absorb" sperm which contains finasteride? And that would mean you need a condom or what, even if on birth control pills? Because all warnings I read on Propecia's packages is that a pregnant woman should not absorb that, or if you want to make children. So I don't see any warnings having sex with a woman on birth control pills and therefore without condom usage. Your thoughts on that?

Mesotherapies are the future man. Here in Spain is the latest thing and it's working almost perfectly. Cristiano Ronaldo opened a clinic here in Madrid called Insparya which does it with wonderful results.

They basically inject everything you need to stop Androgenetic Alopecia right in your scalp. Dutasteride, hair vitamins, etc...

I honestly think Finasteride is the best solution Androgenetic Alopecia has had ever and I doubt there can be much else. Antiandrogens are pretty much the best solution science can come up with.

 

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It's fine as long as the woman isn't pregnant or going to get pregnant.

Cool, I thought so. There were some warnings on some sites trying to order Finasteride how "are you aware of using condom during sex when taking finasteride?" I was like, what?

Mesotherapies are the future man. Here in Spain is the latest thing and it's working almost perfectly. Cristiano Ronaldo opened a clinic here in Madrid called Insparya which does it with wonderful results.

They basically inject everything you need to stop Androgenetic Alopecia right in your scalp. Dutasteride, hair vitamins, etc...

I honestly think Finasteride is the best solution Androgenetic Alopecia has had ever and I doubt there can be much else. Antiandrogens are pretty much the best solution science can come up with.

Yeah, just read some news about injecting finasteride in your scalp. The effects last for a month. Idk, we would all like something which would last longer... We will see how all those cells therapies, where follicles would get rejuvenated and resistant to androgens, will work out.

 

[Inigo1202]

Its not Finasteride, its Dutasteride. Finas only lasts for 8 hours while Dutas does for 5-6 weeks.

Look for "Hair mesotherapies" in Google. It's amazing. People actually regrow hair for real.

And yes, cell therapies are the future. Stem cells as well. But I think we are at least a decade away from that. Which is still too long for me I think...

 

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Its not Finasteride, its Dutasteride. Finas only lasts for 8 hours while Dutas does for 5-6 weeks.

Look for "Hair mesotherapies" in Google. It's amazing. People actually regrow hair for real.

And yes, cell therapies are the future. Stem cells as well. But I think we are at least a decade away from that. Which is still too long for me I think...

Here's something in the pipeline regarding injections of finasteride. 1 month long lasting effect, they predict based on mice results. http://m.koreabiomed.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=6615

Had a brief look of the adviced therapy. Maybe it will evolve to something more, as for now I see there hasn't been much "evidence" in any studies of how much efficient the results are.

 

[Michael1986]

Thanks for your thoughts, mate. I hope finasteride will work for me next 5 years. Taking into account that my uncle was completely bald at 25 and my cousin at 31, I'm concerned that my Androgenetic Alopecia will be too agressive for 1mg finasteride to work - maintain what I have at the moment. Hopefully it will be enough. I'm really happy and relieved with my hair now, they're not as good as they were a year ago, but still similar, noone would actually notice they're worse or that I'm balding. Actually got so relaxed about it, I stopped thinking and concerning about my hair, that I started to forget to take a pill in these last 7 days. Think I missed 3 times, lol. If only this hair could last as long as possible. May I ask, when you say family history, those particular relatives are completely bald? At what age?

All my known male relatives have suffered from varying degrees of male pattern baldness. My dad, his two brothers, and his father all started losing their hair in their late 20s, and were all mostly bald by their late 30s. My dad is now 64 and is a Norwood 7. Male pattern baldness is strong on my mother's side too. Her brother and her dad both lost their hair, and she herself has much thinner hair now than when she was young. I started rapidly losing my hair at about 26. I hopped on treatments at 27, and have managed to regrow most of what I had lost. I'm now 33. If I had never treated my hair loss, I'd have been a Norwood 4 or worse by now. Dutasteride has been a lifesaver for me.

You're not any more positive that there will be something out in shorter time frame? I'm positive I could last with pills up to 10 years, but then it would be just too much to go further. I'm not concerned now as I'm biologically in my prime and am physically active almost every day and am naturally a testosterone animal as I like to name myself, lol. But since there's such a race going on to find solution in hairloss, I think this would come sooner than 10 years. I'm positive on one side, but on the other I think there's a damn billion race out there. I think solution would come, but not cheap when the only first one comes out. When competitors will join the market, the price will go down. I'm positive that in 10 years we're set for a better solution.
As regards to minoxidil and all that topical crap..I mean, even if there is topical finasteride or topical anti-androgens and new solutions applied topically..I mean, to do that daily? C'mon, man. That's no easy management! You lose so much time, and psychologically if you have the concern to rub something on your head daily, there's psychological negative consequences and you absolutely lose focus on life - its important things. Its meaning. To take a pill it takes a second and forget about it. You go on a holiday and you need to think how you will have to rub something on your head. You go to your GF, sleep there, and you will have to think you have to put smth on your head, and by a chance an anti-androgen, and then you can't go in bed with her, because she must not absorb it. Simply, it's crap. Psychologically it's too negative. Only in case a shampoo would do that, but not a chance in our life time.

Its hard to predict for sure whether or not a better and safer alternative to finasteride/dutasteride will come out within the next ten years. We can be hopeful that it will, but it is far from guaranteed. There are some promising treatments in the pipeline, and we'll have to wait and see what happens regarding these. What I would consider as being effectively a cure would be something that is highly effective not just at maintaining, but also at regrowing what is already lost, and to also be a low-maintenance treatment, not absurdly expensive, safe, and without side-effects. If any one of these things is missing, I don't consider it as being close to a cure at all. Whether or not anything comes out in the near future that meets all these criteria remains to be seen. We can remain hopeful.

May I ask, you have an intimate relationship? Because, they're saying everywhere how woman should not touch finasteride / absorb it in any ways. Meaning that women should not "absorb" sperm which contains finasteride? And that would mean you need a condom or what, even if on birth control pills? Because all warnings I read on Propecia's packages is that a pregnant woman should not absorb that, or if you want to make children. So I don't see any warnings having sex with a woman on birth control pills and therefore without condom usage. Your thoughts on that?

I've fathered a child while using dutasteride, and one study I read found that finasteride did not affect a man's fertility. Other studies appear to have found that it has a small affect on a man's fertility, but nothing major. Pregnant women should not be in contact with finasteride, and this is one reason why a lot of men would not want to use topical finasteride. The tiny amount in finasteride in a man's semen is not going to cause any harm to his wife from having sex. The only realistic way a woman could be affected by finasteride would be if she ingested some of the contents of a pill or a topical formulation. For example, if she accidentally ingested some of the powder from a split Proscar pill that hadn't been cleaned up properly.

 

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All my known male relatives have suffered from varying degrees of male pattern baldness. My dad, his two brothers, and his father all started losing their hair in their late 20s, and were all mostly bald by their late 30s. My dad is now 64 and is a Norwood 7. Male pattern baldness is strong on my mother's side too. Her brother and her dad both lost their hair, and she herself has much thinner hair now than when she was young. I started rapidly losing my hair at about 26. I hopped on treatments at 27, and have managed to regrow most of what I had lost. I'm now 33. If I had never treated my hair loss, I'd have been a Norwood 4 or worse by now. Dutasteride has been a lifesaver for me.

Thanks man for sharing your story. All I can say is I wish you best of luck, hopefully the drugs will work as long as possible, or as as long as you would need them to.

AIts hard to predict for sure whether or not a better and safer alternative to finasteride/dutasteride will come out within the next ten years. We can be hopeful that it will, but it is far from guaranteed. There are some promising treatments in the pipeline, and we'll have to wait and see what happens regarding these. What I would consider as being effectively a cure would be something that is highly effective not just at maintaining, but also at regrowing what is already lost, and to also be a low-maintenance treatment, not absurdly expensive, safe, and without side-effects. If any one of these things is missing, I don't consider it as being close to a cure at all. Whether or not anything comes out in the near future that meets all these criteria remains to be seen. We can remain hopeful.

I understand. For my case I would happy there's something that converts existing hair to androgen resistant and is ofcourse affordable, or have a chance to reach that price in future.

I've fathered a child while using dutasteride, and one study I read found that finasteride did not affect a man's fertility. Other studies appear to have found that it has a small affect on a man's fertility, but nothing major. Pregnant women should not be in contact with finasteride, and this is one reason why a lot of men would not want to use topical finasteride. The tiny amount in finasteride in a man's semen is not going to cause any harm to his wife from having sex. The only realistic way a woman could be affected by finasteride would be if she ingested some of the contents of a pill or a topical formulation. For example, if she accidentally ingested some of the powder from a split Proscar pill that hadn't been cleaned up properly.

For real? I'm always like thinking getting off the drug when I have the intent of producing a child.


When looking back at the pictures how Androgenetic Alopecia shocked me this year, I still can't believe it literally happened in a month and a half. Like it just hit the edge and got over the cliff. Hair just thin, dry and weak...Like they've been burnt (by electricity) or smth seriously...I think it was 8th of May when I realized at the barbers there's something wrong, and then few weeks later I realized it's the genes - Androgenetic Alopecia.
Adding pics with dates. That's why I'm concerned I have aggressive Androgenetic Alopecia and Finasteride won't work for long. Really does frigthen me when I look back at these pics.
You familiar with such a fast rate thinning out and miniaturizing?