Is what depress saying is true or?

[depress]

DHT reduces, testosterone goes up (then down).

That's not true. Once T goes up it stays up. It doesn't spike like a lot of people think.

did you do a study or are you just making stuff up. what is your current serum and free testosterone level. I had my pre-finasteride levels and current levels tested, what are yours? mine where mid 700s pre finasteride, and are now low 400, is my doctor wrong, do you want to explain to him where he F'ed up the blood test?

Well that's because you're one of the unlucky 3% buddy. The other 97% of us have increased levels of T. That's the way it is...it didn't work for you, get over it.

Haha tell your self whatever you need. Your screwed and you don't even know it. Your options are A. stay with it and screw yourself up more or B. quit and let your testosterone plumit. Good luck with that

 

[depress]

so i guess there are two types of finasteride users on here


1. Take finasteride with very little sides/or none and just on here to research new forms of preventing male pattern baldness.


2. The unlucky 3 percent who finasteride didnt work or fucked them up now they are on here to b**** and tell others not to take it

ok Jm0311 take it your not hurting me any :lol:

 

[depress]

http://www.propeciasideeffects.com

 

[depress]

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/discussions ... m.php?f=46

 

[Jm0311]

ok well i am not taking that drug now....ill wait it out till something new comes out...ok depress what do you think of this regime


spironolactone Cream
Nizoral
Revita Shampoo


using

MSM
FISH OIL

why does everyone around here praise finasteride so much when there are SOOOOO many cases of this

 

[dietcola]

this thread is garbage. one bitchy whiner that experienced side effects while on the drug trying to tell everyone else that because he did, everyone else is doomed to fail. have you EVER seen a perscription drug commercial that didn't warn about possible side effects? NO. all drugs have possible side effects. if you experience them then discontinue the use and accept the fact that you were unlucky with that particular treatment. LOTS of people use finasteride quite successfully, for you to lump everyone in as a definate failure like yourself depress is just stupid. you are an adult, grow up.

 

[dietcola]

why does everyone around here praise finasteride so much when there are SOOOOO many cases of this

finasteride works. the people it works for are out enjoying their lives not comming to internet forums to cry about their problems. unfortunately the people it doesn't work for, and the people who experience side effects, feel extremely wronged by the drug and feel the need to slander it as much as possible.

if you want to do something for yourself, don't be turned off by one bad apple.

 

[Jm0311]

yea i know dietcola you have given alot of advise that i have read....i know alot..but propeciasideefects.com or whatever.....i wouldnt wanna take the chance now....i dont know maybe later on...

 

[depress]

ok well i am not taking that drug now....ill wait it out till something new comes out...ok depress what do you think of this regime


spironolactone Cream
Nizoral
Revita Shampoo


using

MSM
FISH OIL

why does everyone around here praise finasteride so much when there are SOOOOO many cases of this

Looks like a good reg. Dont avoid minoxidil, most of the guys that have regrowth have minoxidil in their regement. From what i have read topical spironolactone blocks DHT will little/no sides. Nizoral is always good. People slam minoxidil because quitting means loosing hair, but the same holds true for finasteride. All these treatments are for life so dont hesitate to jump on minoxidil. I have used it in the past and got good results. Best of luck.

 

[Jm0311]

i dont know if i need minoxidil yet...my temples arent that bad....
do Norwood 1-2 use it yet?

 

[Jm0311]

depress there are alot of people that use this with no sides.....do u think. honestly you were just the 3 percent? just asking......on propeciasideeffects.com i only see a couple hundred people on there if that. there are thousands and thousands of people who use finasteride

 

[depress]

i dont know if i need minoxidil yet...my temples arent that bad....
do Norwood 1-2 use it yet?

If your happy with your current hairline than I would suggest a topical DHT inhibitor. minoxidil is good, but you probably don't need it yet, and it will cause a shed. Im my experience then shed you get from it isn't asthetic(your hair doesnt look drastically worse) but it is freaky to be loosing more hair.

 

[Jm0311]

my dad is actually a Norwood 3v and age 56 so im 23 with a Norwood 1.75 so i think my topical regime might work good for awhile..... my dad has that bruce willis die hard hairline....lol

 

[depress]

depress there are alot of people that use this with no sides.....do u think. honestly you were just the 3 percent? just asking......on propeciasideeffects.com i only see a couple hundred people on there if that. there are thousands and thousands of people who use finasteride

That very well could be the case. I can tell you this, i noticed the side effects very early into my treatment, and if i quit when i first noticed them, i doubt that they would be persistent (i noticed them within maybe 3 days to a week) I stayed on finasteride for maybe 8-9 months. and my testosterone really did settle on a lower level. I would say if you want to try it, make damn sure you quit if you get sides early. and have blood work done, don't self perscribe. test estrogen, testosterone(serum,free) DHT....etc. I swear im not trying to freak you out, I am really having persistent sides.

 

[Jm0311]

its ok.......ive heard this from tons of people on here...from small sides too large ones...i would rather not be the percent that gets the sides.....ill stay topical for awhile... i think spironolactone/revivogen spray/revita shampoo/nizoral will be really good for a few years till something else comes out

 

[Skaff]

ok well i am not taking that drug now....ill wait it out till something new comes out...ok depress what do you think of this regime


spironolactone Cream
Nizoral
Revita Shampoo


using

MSM
FISH OIL

why does everyone around here praise finasteride so much when there are SOOOOO many cases of this

Well...good luck to you. But honestly, go talk to your derm (or a Doctor you trust) and ask what his professional opinion of finasteride is. Or at least base your decision on something more sound than the ramblings of a tiny minority. Having said that, if you're not comfortable taking finasteride then you probably shouldn't.

 

[UK1]

Have fun taking finasteride you are about to be dead inside.

:roll:

Yes.. another idiot..

 

[The Dangerman]

Have fun taking finasteride you are about to be dead inside.

I think that's a highly irresponsible thing to say. Fair enough, I'll accept your trying to warn others, but you should say "You MAY get these side effects". Telling people they WILL get side effects is very misleading.

 

[Jojje]

depress there are alot of people that use this with no sides.....do u think. honestly you were just the 3 percent? just asking......on propeciasideeffects.com i only see a couple hundred people on there if that. there are thousands and thousands of people who use finasteride

That very well could be the case. I can tell you this, i noticed the side effects very early into my treatment, and if i quit when i first noticed them, i doubt that they would be persistent (i noticed them within maybe 3 days to a week) I stayed on finasteride for maybe 8-9 months. and my testosterone really did settle on a lower level. I would say if you want to try it, make damn sure you quit if you get sides early. and have blood work done, don't self perscribe. test estrogen, testosterone(serum,free) DHT....etc. I swear im not trying to freak you out, I am really having persistent sides.

Well the 5 year test study showed an 10 % increase in testosterone.
So maibe you where 1 out off a million freak side effect... but that doesnt mean that the other 999 999 persons will get that reaction
They mai get lower libido.. brain fog... i am alsow on finasterid.. dont have any sides.. and dont have any sexyal problems.. and im 3 months in now :lol:

'but im getting tired off saying this about finasteride... if you guys dont want to take it thats fine.. if you get sides you can always get off it and get rid of the sides. But what if you dont and you can save youre hair... i would risk it .. and i did.. my thoughts where.. risking off getting libido problems.. or risking off loosing all my hair and never have any GOOD sex again... and by good sex i mean sex with a butiful girl

GOOD luck people hope you and youre hair make it

 

[Thinneritgoes!]

I TOOK finasteride FOR 3 YEARS AND HAD ABSOLUTELY NO SIDES. THANK YOU. I COULD GET IT UP WITH THE SNAP OF A FINGER. MY GIRLFRIEND AND I NEVER GOT IT ON MORE. BYE.