It Is Over For Sub 8/10 Men Today, Young Men Should Just Give Up.

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I agree that the consequences of that could be catastrophic.

When we have kids, my girlfriend will want to keep on working full time, and I will be working full time too.

The thing is, if I'm the one who chooses to work part-time, you can be sure that it will cause problems in our relationship.

You just can't reverse the sex roles, that's why stay-at-home moms are seen as acceptable and stay-at-home dads are seen as deadbeats.

It is so profoundly ingrained in our biology that there's no tweaking it.

are you looking to get pregnant before getting married?
 

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Lookism / The Red Pill / MGTOW, whatever you want to call it is an ideology.

It give you a skewed but believable presentation of reality.

"It's not me, it's those hypergamous sl*ts! And the world they inhabit is a shithole too! It's ogre!"

And then they proceed to cherry-pick all the stories that agree with their misogynistic narrative but carefully disregard everything that shatters their worldview.

When I was not doing so well on the dating scene (as a slick bald 23 year old), I used to binge-read those forums and felt so good about myself, and it was so addicting.

You want to believe it all, that women are all remorseless monsters who only care about rapaciously exploiting beta cucks while being submissive puppies to alpha males.

If you're a true ugly incel, at least that ideology won't lead you to hurt women, but in my case, I still had access to women, so I turned into a huge a**h**.

It was convenient, we men were the victim of women, so it was only fair that we turned into monsters ourselves. Just read the forums like RooshV where the guys who can actually have women will boast about treating them like dirt and "spinning plates".

"It serves those hypergamous b****s right! We'll show them!" All oppressed / oppressor ideologies run on this narrative: those men are the victim of women and this cruel world so they need to become the oppressors themselves.

The result is men who have been brainwashed and post threads like this one, and then proceed to jerk each other off in the confines of their little misogynistic echo chamber.
Hypocrite cuck. You were always whining about women and how unfairly they treat bald men, but after you got your transplant your opinions have changed 180 degree. You make me sick with your hypocrisy.
 

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Of course anything less than 50/50 is a bad deal, men and women are supposed to see each other as equal in a relationship.

That's the only way any relationship can be healthy.

If one person has power over the other and starts acting it out, that's when the relationship starts going south.

The phenomenon you describe is by no means common, only a small percentage of the female population does that.

You can't possibly believe that the dynamic you describe is the norm. Or do you actually believe that?



But, but, some men want to believe it!

It looks so true!

Ish.
It wouldn't have been fake if you had seen it 3 or 4 years ago.
 

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I've noticed this also, it's happened quite rapidly. A thread here and there that's a little off topic is understandable, it's just this sudden influx of woman hating members that is what I don't like.
Yeah, i'm a misogynist because i dared to criticize a higher beings such as women. How could a low quality, inferior man like me complain about a superior, high status woman that way ? I should just be licking their shoes like a thirsty dog to be the great alpha male.
 

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Yes, he should give up. There's noway a 23 years old virgin would lose his virginity anytime soon. Women hate virgins with passion.
Most women would think differently if he were Chad. That he is reserved, and has strong ethical values, demonstrated by his ability to abstain for prolonged periods of time.
 

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Most women would think differently if he were Chad. That he is reserved, and has strong ethical values, demonstrated by his ability to abstain for prolonged periods of time.
He wouldn't have been virgin if he had been a chad. TROLL FAILED.
 

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I agree that the consequences of that could be catastrophic.

When we have kids, my girlfriend will want to keep on working full time, and I will be working full time too.

The thing is, if I'm the one who chooses to work part-time, you can be sure that it will cause problems in our relationship.

You just can't reverse the sex roles, that's why stay-at-home moms are seen as acceptable and stay-at-home dads are seen as deadbeats.

It is so profoundly ingrained in our biology that there's no tweaking it.

Social engineering is taking care of that. There is an all out assault against white men in the media, at least here in the west, peaking in US, Canada, Australia, UK. White males are fair targets for hate and abuse, so you can be sure that the guys who aren't very socially astute and high status are receiving a constant low level of sh*t for no real reason other than media brainwashing and race baiting. Therefore as a white man you must put your head down and act a CUCK, lest you be labelled as a rapist dripping with 'toxic masculinity'. It may not even be explicitly stated, but there will be no mistaking the attitude you receive, especially from the younger generations. Maybe i'm not a high pitched, limp wristed, male feminist b**ch, why should i act that way? Just a normal dude, which isn't allowed anymore.


If you don't adhere to the newly emerging social 'norms', at the very least you will be labelled a hateful bigot . I don't want to get started on all of this as i havent even had my coffee yet, but i can make one point RE: equality. I don't like the word equality to begin with as people are clearly not equal in terms of many things, cognitive ability being one, and we shouldn't be trying to force everyone into 'equality' (which is actually just forcing advantaged people down to the level of the unwashed average). Equal RIGHTS is fair, Equality of OUTCOME is not -- asking for a raise at work would be anti-equality, wouldn't it? So would trying to further your eduction. Stupid.

I bolded an important point in your post, as its at odds with the current ideology-du-jour. In a previous post you stated you wanted a 50/50 equal relationship, however in your scenario, the fact that only the wife could be the stay at home parent is in direct conflict with current leftist dogma. The social constructionists currently believe that gender has NO BASIS IN BIOLOGY. This ideology is rapidly gaining steam, especially in Canada where i'm based out of, as they are already pushing several things into written law. These sentiments are floating around, your wife may start to question her role in the relationship as a stay at home mom, other women may even ridicule her. Resentment can build, leading to conflict, all because of some rapidly spreading pathological ideology which seeks to destroy all traditional values.

This will all get worse if people allow for it, as a matter of fact i think Toronto is a lost cause, simply too far gone. The universities here are churning out leftist radicals at an alarming rate (Mostly in the social sciences and humanities), there is almost no such thing as 'non brainwashed' students anymore in my opinion. They are being infected with this nonsense by half baked pseudo intellectuals from the 60's...because everyone feels they need to make "A DIFFERENCE" with wimminz studies (Yes, a real program) Not to mention compulsory 'sensitivity and anti racism'(really means anti white) training for staff members and HR -- f*****g scary sh*t. The STEM people aren't as affected, but lets be real its 90% autistic men in there, hardly our target demographic.


So statements like the one i bolded would actually inspire HATE from some of these brainwashed idiots (some of which are PROUDLY marxist, mind you), and they will shout you down. Now i know, "who gives a f*** what these people say", but its not that simple because who wants to live in a place where sentiment is slowly shifting towards being pathologically opposed to who you are, and your goals in life.

This was a pretty off topic political rant, but these gender dynamics issues being discussed here actually have their roots very deep in the political system, it really isn't as simple as ALPHA PHUX BETA BUX, it goes farther, and im simply too tired to flesh out my post any further


i hope things aren't so bad in Europe, i will need to take a long trip down there.
 

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Dante, one question: Where did you learn English so well? In a school or in self-study?
I never had the time to learn English because of my job 8-21.
 

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Both school and self-study. I've always have a talent and interest for learning foreign languages, and a good memory.

Your English is fantastic!! Smart, smart guy Mister ;)
Atypical for an Italian:D
Most Italians I know can't speak English.
 

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options for sub8

trannymax or/and peg twink
 

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Just lol at 2017 and the future. A 7.5/10 BBC gets cucked by a 5/10 woman for a more superior man and his mother wants him to continue being a cuck and raise kids that aren't even his. It's f*****g over.


I feel that the real problem is that some guys here rate girls lower than their actual sexual value, for some odd reason. Every time a couple is posted the same guys almost always rate the girl lower than the guy, regardless of what their sexual value actually is.
Maybe guys automatically see other guys as hotter, and are more likely to find ''flaws'' in a girl rather than the guy?
I know that I tend to find girls hotter than guys, even though I'm straight, so there could really be something to this theory.

Other than that, please don't think shows like this reflect reality. It's meant to entertain, not educate.
 

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I feel that the real problem is that some guys here rate girls lower than their actual sexual value, for some odd reason. Every time a couple is posted the same guys almost always rate the girl lower than the guy, regardless of what their sexual value actually is.
Maybe guys automatically see other guys as hotter, and are more likely to find ''flaws'' in a girl rather than the guy?
I know that I tend to find girls hotter than guys, even though I'm straight, so there could really be something to this theory.

Other than that, please don't think shows like this reflect reality. It's meant to entertain, not educate.
Women rate 80% of men as below average in looks.
 

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Women = mother nature = they select which men get to pass on their genes so that our species can be bettered.

Evolution, you might have heard of it ;).

Women have to be demanding when it comes to their mate selection, it's deeply ingrained in their biology.

So can you be mad at them, really?

My girlfriend was single for 5 years before she met me.

She told me that if it wasn't or someone else that met her standards, she would have just remained single.

And made a baby alone when she turned 30.

God what a terrible idea.

And she still cannot see how foolish of her that would have been.

If she goes to a sperm bank, she will have to raise a kid by herself but she'll plausibly be raising a higher-quality kid. It's a tradeoff.

IQ of 160, 6'4, blue eyes, caucasian, perfect build, perfect mannerism (noted by the staff), neurosurgeon, etc is what's available at the sperm bank. Some men have apparently had hundreds of children. That's what those women want.

It is harder to raise a kid alone, but those kids might also be easier to raise. They're more intelligent, better behaved, more athletic, etc.
 

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If she goes to a sperm bank, she will have to raise a kid by herself but she'll plausibly be raising a higher-quality kid. It's a tradeoff.

IQ of 160, 6'4, blue eyes, caucasian, perfect build, perfect mannerism (noted by the staff), neurosurgeon, etc is what's available at the sperm bank. Some men have apparently had hundreds of children. That's what those women want.

It is harder to raise a kid alone, but those kids might also be easier to raise. They're more intelligent, better behaved, more athletic, etc.

chad's sperm is more valueable than our lifes

sad but true
 

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Women = mother nature = they select which men get to pass on their genes so that our species can be bettered.

Evolution, you might have heard of it ;).

Women have to be demanding when it comes to their mate selection, it's deeply ingrained in their biology.

So can you be mad at them, really?

My girlfriend was single for 5 years before she met me.

She told me that if it wasn't or someone else that met her standards, she would have just remained single.

And made a baby alone when she turned 30.

God what a terrible idea.

And she still cannot see how foolish of her that would have been.
So why the f*** shouldn't we also select specific women with good genetics to pass our genes on ? Why evolution only works with women ? Are women immune to having shitty genes ?
 
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