Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

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I highly doubt Fidia has spent more than ~$50k at most on this entire process. From buying the patent off Brotzu (which was probably free with a backend deal on product sold), to hiring a third party company to do the trials (All they have to do is have people come every month or so to take pictures), to all that "stabilizing" they were doing, done by people that I bet were already on their payroll, so no money spent there. They've sank virtually no money into this. No marketing costs (yet?). Listing on efarma is free I'm pretty sure, efarma just gets a cut of sales. They literally have spent nothing and therefore have nothing to lose. The people thinking they've spent millions of dollars on this are out of touch with reality and reason.

I respectfully completely disagree - That said, time will tell.
 
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I highly doubt Fidia has spent more than ~$50k at most on this entire process. From buying the patent off Brotzu (which was probably free with a backend deal on product sold), to hiring a third party company to do the trials (All they have to do is have people come every month or so to take pictures), to all that "stabilizing" they were doing, done by people that I bet were already on their payroll, so no money spent there. They've sank virtually no money into this. No marketing costs (yet?). Listing on efarma is free I'm pretty sure, efarma just gets a cut of sales. They literally have spent nothing and therefore have nothing to lose. The people thinking they've spent millions of dollars on this are out of touch with reality and reason.

Where on earth did you come up with this theory ? Lol
 

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Why do people create accounts at an attempt to be funny and clog this page. Never understood that. Very annoying, very sad if you think about t
How to spot a Mexican ...
lol. Imagine you created a separate account to try to be funny to a bunch of friends you’ve never met on a hair loss forum. Nice.
 

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Tsuji is still far away imho, his method is still the most innovative one, and will have the most influence in medicine in general outside hairloss too. I really doubt it will come out as soon as they predict it will. Also the cost will most probably be very high. I was thinking more fevi or that choi thing personally. Althrough the choi thing is still mostly unproven and we have no idea when it will come to market.
 

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I highly doubt Fidia has spent more than ~$50k at most on this entire process. From buying the patent off Brotzu (which was probably free with a backend deal on product sold), to hiring a third party company to do the trials (All they have to do is have people come every month or so to take pictures), to all that "stabilizing" they were doing, done by people that I bet were already on their payroll, so no money spent there. They've sank virtually no money into this. No marketing costs (yet?). Listing on efarma is free I'm pretty sure, efarma just gets a cut of sales. They literally have spent nothing and therefore have nothing to lose. The people thinking they've spent millions of dollars on this are out of touch with reality and reason.

Your whole theory is bs until you can prove the "50k" claim.
 

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Tsuji is still far away imho, his method is still the most innovative one, and will have the most influence in medicine in general outside hairloss too. I really doubt it will come out as soon as they predict it will. Also the cost will most probably be very high. I was thinking more fevi or that choi thing personally. Althrough the choi thing is still mostly unproven and we have no idea when it will come to market.

Even if you were right Tsuji’s aspired release date is before choi and seti and the results are much better making it prime hype material.
If hype was based on facts alone this thread would have five pages.
 

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IIRC the patent was bought for 1 mil euro
Yeah this is completely not true. I can do it too: IIRC it was bought for 5 pennies and a shoe.

No one has ever said how much the patent was. The fact that Brotzu's son is anticipating the release as much as we are is because of only one explanation: They sold the patent to Fidia for free/a very cheap up front cost, with the promise of a backend deal on sales made. There is no conceivable way that Fidia paid even close to 1 million dollars upfront for the patent. That's just ludicrous idiotic logic. Fidia's yearly revenue is 400million euros. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt and say 11% of that is profit (which is the average, but with all the evidence stacked against Fidia as a business, I'd argue it's lower than 11%). That's ~44million in yearly profit. 1 million is not just a drop in the bucket for them to spend willy nilly on some bullshit patent. There is no way on planet Earth Fidia spent 1 million up front on the patent. I don't know how to make it more clear.
 

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The fact that Brotzu's son is anticipating the release as much as we are is because of only one explanation: They sold the patent to Fidia for free/a very cheap up front cost, with the promise of a backend deal on sales made.

The Brotzus would have to be very confident in the efficacy of their lotion to almost entirely rely on this.
 

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The Brotzus would have to be very confident in the efficacy of their lotion to almost entirely rely on this.
Remember Brotzu said they have a contract in place where if Fidia doesn't bring it to market in time, they can legally pursue action.
 

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Remember Brotzu said they have a contract in place where if Fidia doesn't bring it to market in time, they can legally pursue action.

Your logic is full of holes

And also why are we arguing over a price of a patent we’ll never know the answer too. Once again if some of these detractors would put this amount of effort in anything else other than disproving this product they stand to be successful at atleast something.

Once again, if you don’t think it will work .. then don’t buy it leave this forum to those that are planning on trying it.
 

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Your logic is full of holes
How is that a hole... that's literally what Brotzu said. And how is it a hole regardless if it strengthens my argument. That's the opposite of a hole..

And I wouldn't be arguing over the price of the patent, if there weren't people using "this must be legit or they wouldn't have spent millions on the patent" as an argument.
 
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