Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

Itiswhatitis

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yeah hope so dude !
I'll tell you a secret about this thread, every time you get a like a new follicle is resurrected.
so the more you get the better is.

it's a better alternative than using fina and loose you dick and may be your brain too.
How do you loose your dick? That sounds illegal.
 

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Can someone care to explain why everyone’s so sure it isn’t going to work at all? Not coming in here with high hopes but I’m curious why the outlook is so poor considering this is the first new treatment to be released in a while.
 

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Can someone care to explain why everyone’s so sure it isn’t going to work at all? Not coming in here with high hopes but I’m curious why the outlook is so poor considering this is the first new treatment to be released in a while.

They aren't mate....they have no f*****g clue....they just like to wind others up with their perfect knowledge of biology and chemistry, as they are probably bald as a pornstars fanny and this wouldn't even work for them even if it did something.
 

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Can someone care to explain why everyone’s so sure it isn’t going to work at all? Not coming in here with high hopes but I’m curious why the outlook is so poor considering this is the first new treatment to be released in a while.
The only people excited have done no research on the ingredients and don't know all the facts and haven't followed everything about lotion since day 1, whose only arguments are to bash the 'haters' or use logical fallacies and say 'Fidia wouldn't risk their reputation to release a scam' or 'They wouldn't spend all this money (they don't know how much money) to release a scam'.

While all the people who have followed the lotion since day 1 (and were very, very excited about it), who know all the facts and have done all the research and aren't braindead enough to process that information, have all come to the realization that it will do nothing.

You're free to pick which group to believe.
 

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So the s-equol ingredient is supposed to bind to dht which prevents it from binding to the AR, but does that mean testosterone could still bind to the AR and cause hairloss? I'm wondering if the lotion would be more effective if it contained something that binds to the AR to prevent all hormones from attaching to it.
 

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The only people excited have done no research on the ingredients and don't know all the facts and haven't followed everything about lotion since day 1, whose only arguments are to bash the 'haters' or use logical fallacies and say 'Fidia wouldn't risk their reputation to release a scam' or 'They wouldn't spend all this money (they don't know how much money) to release a scam'.

While all the people who have followed the lotion since day 1 (and were very, very excited about it), who know all the facts and have done all the research and aren't braindead enough to process that information, have all come to the realization that it will do nothing.

You're free to pick which group to believe.
You are the one who is claiming to have a lot of scientific knowledge why it does not work, yet in your mind scrambled eggs with primrose oil and soypowder are just like the DGLA,S-equol lotion with liposomal delivery .
Give us some proof it does not work. Please.

I have followed this sh*t since day 1. I was checking the ieson, bellicapelli too. I tried to find as many scientific info about it as possible. Yet all of it draw me to personal conclusion it will do something.
 

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these new arrivals (profiles) want to discuss how the lotion will work or not which is discussed in this thread back in 2016 a billion time.
and the more we got close to the release date and get more news about the lotion the more they got triggered. these profile are popping like mushroom lately.

if you think the lotion will not work this is won't change nothing. JUST f*****g LAY DOWN AND RELAX and wait one or two month.
 
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There’s a few people saying these want photos before they consider that this might work, but did Clockwise not post the Fidia photos (correct me if I’m wrong) - which looked pretty good IMO.
 

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There’s a few people saying these want photos before they consider that this might work, but did Clockwise not post the Fidia photos (correct me if I’m wrong) - which looked pretty good IMO.

Clockwise did post the photos apparently the results were not good enough for some people..
 

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The only people excited have done no research on the ingredients and don't know all the facts and haven't followed everything about lotion since day 1, whose only arguments are to bash the 'haters' or use logical fallacies and say 'Fidia wouldn't risk their reputation to release a scam' or 'They wouldn't spend all this money (they don't know how much money) to release a scam'.

While all the people who have followed the lotion since day 1 (and were very, very excited about it), who know all the facts and have done all the research and aren't braindead enough to process that information, have all come to the realization that it will do nothing.

You're free to pick which group to believe.

Out of interest, what is your level of research? Is it after reading various articles and forums on line, you have come to the conclusion that it doesn't work..."because...well those ingredients couldn't possible work in my mind"

Or have you created the lotion yourself, using liposomes, ran a test and seen that it has no effect on hair loss whatsoever?

if you haven't done the 2nd...then your paragraph above is nothing more than an opinion and not a fact as you seem to be painting it...so therefor, there is no believing anyone, unless you blindly follow peoples opinions.

I'm not arguing either way, as I like you don't actually know either it works or doesn't....I hope it does work...I feel anything that helps lots of young and old men fight what is a horrible issue is a positive thing and this could be another bullet in the magazine.
 
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Do the die hard sceptics here believe this has maintenance potential?
Who knows man , depends on your male pattern baldness aggresiveness and how long you are hoping to maintain . Even a shampoo can potentially keep you above baseline for 2-3 months , and for some people with slow balding regaine is enough for 5+ years
 

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Group 1: 10 (6 male, 4 female) patients treated for 120 days with 1 ml/day of Lotion A to be applied on a well defined area of the scalp;

On day 7 : both group 1 and group 2 experience a reduction of hair loss, defined "substantial" by patients of group 1 and "modest" by those of group 2. Group 3 feels hair as more robust. Groups 4 and 5 do not report any variation;
On day 20: in group 1 all the patients have stopped losing hair and report the presence of a substantial fuzz. In group 2 hair loss has stopped in 6 patients and fuzz, where present, is more modest (in terms of number/cm [SUP]2 [/SUP]) . Group 3 reports an aesthetic improvement related to hair brightness. Group 4 reports a minimal reduction in hair loss. Group 5 does not report any variation;
On day 45: in group 1, fuzz has grown markedly stronger and takes the colour and consistency of natural hair. In group 2, as expected, all the patients have stopped losing hair, but only some of them report a certain degree of regrowth, fuzz is very weak and not completely coloured yet. Group 3 reports disappearance of split ends. Group 4 reports arrested hair loss in all the subjects and, in some of them, presence of weak fuzz. Group 5 does not report any variation;
On day 90: in group 1 all the patients report total disappearance of hair reduction areas that have been replaced by robust and shiny hair. In group 2 hair reduction is still visible, even if areas are all covered with thick fuzz. Group 3 confirms a general hair improvement. Groups 4 and 5 do not record variations from the previous evaluation;
On day 120: group 1 confirms results already seen at day 90. Group 2 continues improvement, even if in some patients of male gender the fuzz has not got the characteristics of strength and colour typical of hair yet. Group 3 confirms results previously obtained. Groups 4 and 5 do not record variations from the previous evaluation .

was this all bullshit or

There seems to be a total disconnect between this study and the pictures released.

Based on pictures-After 1 month, hair looks the same or worse. By month 3, hair looks more sparse bordering on total sh*t. Month 6 - geriatric patient has exceeded his life expectancy, and head angled differently, lighting not as bright, hair combed to maximize coverage = trinov proven to be a cure to baldness.
 

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What did he lied ? 5 years regrowth ?
Most likely, yes.

Your heart's in the right place here, but logically what you've said doesn't really follow.

Consider that you say that Brotzu likely lied or at least stretched the truth of his work...well, FIDIA's product is literally a commercialization of his work.

If the inventor's own presentation fails to show any efficacy for Androgenetic Alopecia, it's makes no sense to assume that the company has somehow found a way to make it work; the theoretical basis has to be solid and demonstrated beforehand.

This company stands to lose nothing, and that's what a lot of these fanboys don't seem to realize. This isn't a huge investment that is going to cost them millions of dollars and years in FDA-type trials and the number of people who'll buy it "just to see" when it comes out will probably be enough to make a small profit regardless, and they'll suffer no consequences even if it doesn't maintain and regrow hair.
I get your point and it makes sense.

But by saying that we should give fidia the chance to prove theirself I didn't mean that they might be able to make the lies of brotzu miraculously become true. I meant that we should listen to what fidia actually claimed so far. They never claimed anything like brotzu, in fact they did not say much about the effectiveness of the lotion, while they could with all the 'fanboys' you are refering to, to establish a hype again. Fidia has been very professional and honest so far imo. Thats what my point is.

I have lost much of my faith too after seeing these pics and leaks. But thats nothing official from fidia yet. Everyone should take inofficial stuff with a grain of salt.
 

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I meant that we should listen to what fidia actually claimed so far

Well, they literally refer to it as a "hairloss remedy" as I recall.

We'll see the official stuff soon enough, of course — but what I'm getting at here is that any other than "low" expectations here would be unrealistic ones.
 
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