Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

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How the hell have they not released any sort of pictures on their site a month or two before the release, especially considering that they announced the release officially. Crazy. Frustrating.
 
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Bklyn_23 said:
How the hell have they not released any sort of pictures on their site a month or two before the release, especially considering that they announced the release officially. Crazy. Frustrating.
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I believe we will see or hear something from FIDIA by the mid of November if not, that means they don't have anything and we should forget about previous photos and statements.
 
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Bklyn_23 said:
How the hell have they not released any sort of pictures on their site a month or two before the release, especially considering that they announced the release officially. Crazy. Frustrating.
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I personally didn't expect such a thing, that's why I warned everybody on my last posts. They at least did reference to their study in their update (which was outrageously edited 2 times in the italian version), just like Merck did. For those complaining the lack of photos, remember that even Merck released only 2 photos over thousands of patients. In fact, I found the 1998 study of the Propecia trials, which I'll attach to this message. The 2 subjects included were not even among the best responders we could have on finasteride, given the ton of reports that we have nowadays.
It also somehow comforts me that at the end Fidia carried a lot more tests into the lotion studies, and even Merck used a questionnaire to evaluate subjectively the efficacy of the treatment.
The real shame is that this lotion was not tested for more than 6 months... I researched more about the mechanism of Finasteride, and every study mentions that initially the hair count increases with a peak at 12 month mark; after that, a progressive thickening is often observed. Tosti said that this is due to the long term forcing of Anagen phase, which the lotion did remarkably in the first 6 months, and I would note also that it scored its points even in the middle of autumn.
I'm mad at fidia for not doing longer tests...
 

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The 7TH Sense said:
I personally didn't expect such a thing, that's why I warned everybody on my last posts. They at least did reference to their study in their update (which was outrageously edited 2 times in the italian version), just like Merck did. For those complaining the lack of photos, remember that even Merck released only 2 photos over thousands of patients. In fact, I found the 1998 study of the Propecia trials, which I'll attach to this message. The 2 subjects included were not even among the best responders we could have on finasteride, given the ton of reports that we have nowadays.
It also somehow comforts me that at the end Fidia carried a lot more tests into the lotion studies, and even Merck used a questionnaire to evaluate subjectively the efficacy of the treatment.
The real shame is that this lotion was not tested for more than 6 months... I researched more about the mechanism of Finasteride, and every study mentions that initially the hair count increases with a peak at 12 month mark; after that, a progressive thickening is often observed. Tosti said that this is due to the long term forcing of Anagen phase, which the lotion did remarkably in the first 6 months, and I would note also that it scored its points even in the middle of autumn.
I'm mad at fidia for not doing longer tests...
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I allways appreciate your post :D

You perfectly represent the mood swings on this thread.
 
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The 7TH Sense said:
I personally didn't expect such a thing, that's why I warned everybody on my last posts. They at least did reference to their study in their update (which was outrageously edited 2 times in the italian version), just like Merck did. For those complaining the lack of photos, remember that even Merck released only 2 photos over thousands of patients. In fact, I found the 1998 study of the Propecia trials, which I'll attach to this message. The 2 subjects included were not even among the best responders we could have on finasteride, given the ton of reports that we have nowadays.
It also somehow comforts me that at the end Fidia carried a lot more tests into the lotion studies, and even Merck used a questionnaire to evaluate subjectively the efficacy of the treatment.
The real shame is that this lotion was not tested for more than 6 months... I researched more about the mechanism of Finasteride, and every study mentions that initially the hair count increases with a peak at 12 month mark; after that, a progressive thickening is often observed. Tosti said that this is due to the long term forcing of Anagen phase, which the lotion did remarkably in the first 6 months, and I would note also that it scored its points even in the middle of autumn.
I'm mad at fidia for not doing longer tests...
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Looking at those before and afters in the Propecia study give me hope lol. If those had been the pictures for Brotzu people would have been equally as pissed off - especially as they're 24 month results.
 
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The 7TH Sense said:
I personally didn't expect such a thing, that's why I warned everybody on my last posts. They at least did reference to their study in their update (which was outrageously edited 2 times in the italian version), just like Merck did. For those complaining the lack of photos, remember that even Merck released only 2 photos over thousands of patients. In fact, I found the 1998 study of the Propecia trials, which I'll attach to this message. The 2 subjects included were not even among the best responders we could have on finasteride, given the ton of reports that we have nowadays.
It also somehow comforts me that at the end Fidia carried a lot more tests into the lotion studies, and even Merck used a questionnaire to evaluate subjectively the efficacy of the treatment.
The real shame is that this lotion was not tested for more than 6 months... I researched more about the mechanism of Finasteride, and every study mentions that initially the hair count increases with a peak at 12 month mark; after that, a progressive thickening is often observed. Tosti said that this is due to the long term forcing of Anagen phase, which the lotion did remarkably in the first 6 months, and I would note also that it scored its points even in the middle of autumn.
I'm mad at fidia for not doing longer tests...
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How do we really know as fact that they didn't do longer tests? We already knew about the test (specifics aside) that was conducted in 2016. I swear I remember someone mentioning at some point a 3rd party doing some testing, I just can't bear to look back through this trash heap.
 
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The 7TH Sense said:
I personally didn't expect such a thing, that's why I warned everybody on my last posts. They at least did reference to their study in their update (which was outrageously edited 2 times in the italian version), just like Merck did. For those complaining the lack of photos, remember that even Merck released only 2 photos over thousands of patients. In fact, I found the 1998 study of the Propecia trials, which I'll attach to this message. The 2 subjects included were not even among the best responders we could have on finasteride, given the ton of reports that we have nowadays.
It also somehow comforts me that at the end Fidia carried a lot more tests into the lotion studies, and even Merck used a questionnaire to evaluate subjectively the efficacy of the treatment.
The real shame is that this lotion was not tested for more than 6 months... I researched more about the mechanism of Finasteride, and every study mentions that initially the hair count increases with a peak at 12 month mark; after that, a progressive thickening is often observed. Tosti said that this is due to the long term forcing of Anagen phase, which the lotion did remarkably in the first 6 months, and I would note also that it scored its points even in the middle of autumn.
I'm mad at fidia for not doing longer tests...
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just imagine that the lotion came out in 2016 or early 2017 as brotzu expected in 2016 and as we were all hoping.
what kind of results, trials, data, pictures would you expect to see in that time (2016) ??
 
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I still see a ray of hope in the fact that FIDIA claims that the lotion/spray is "effective" in their own announcement. I mean, unless they don't mind getting their reputation trashed or are down right delusional, why would they make such a confident claim?
 
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NW2.5372846 said:
I still see a ray of hope in the fact that FIDIA claims that the lotion/spray is "effective" in their own announcement. I mean, unless they don't mind getting their reputation trashed or are down right delusional, why would they make such a confident claim?
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You shouldn't have to look far to find other products that also claim that they're "effective".
 
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The 7TH Sense said:
I personally didn't expect such a thing, that's why I warned everybody on my last posts. They at least did reference to their study in their update (which was outrageously edited 2 times in the italian version), just like Merck did. For those complaining the lack of photos, remember that even Merck released only 2 photos over thousands of patients. In fact, I found the 1998 study of the Propecia trials, which I'll attach to this message. The 2 subjects included were not even among the best responders we could have on finasteride, given the ton of reports that we have nowadays.
It also somehow comforts me that at the end Fidia carried a lot more tests into the lotion studies, and even Merck used a questionnaire to evaluate subjectively the efficacy of the treatment.
The real shame is that this lotion was not tested for more than 6 months... I researched more about the mechanism of Finasteride, and every study mentions that initially the hair count increases with a peak at 12 month mark; after that, a progressive thickening is often observed. Tosti said that this is due to the long term forcing of Anagen phase, which the lotion did remarkably in the first 6 months, and I would note also that it scored its points even in the middle of autumn.
I'm mad at fidia for not doing longer tests...
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I appreciate your posts because they are based off of logic and not full emotion. And then when some new information comes up, your position is open to change. So yeah, hats off.
 
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Are we able to consider this could actually work but as Fidia has proven time & time again that they are just incompetent and inept when it comes to the marketing side of things?
 
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hairnohair said:
Why is this thread so damn long and active? You literally just have to wait guys. If it works, go swimming in that sh*t, if it doesn't then f*** those wops.

Sincerely,
Another wop
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Damn bro.. just realized I got that wop DNA, too...

I’m sorry guys....
 
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We’ll the good news is that my finasteride sides were all mental as I started microdosing again yesterday and took just .25mg (1/4 pill) and just fapped and the anxiety of side effects led to a flaccid member.

.25mg one day ago would not lead to side effects.. therefor I wasted years not taking finasteride due to mental sides. Guess there’s good and bad in this..
 
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