Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

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Yeah yeah sure m8. I look forward to seeing ur norwood 7 baldcel head in 2019 with ur decalcification protocols lmao.
Did you know minoxidil lowers fibrosis (by removing collagen) and increases blood flow by vasodilation.
Don’t mind me though, that’s not what you’re going for lol
 

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Thanks I’ll look into that. I just assumed that improving my thyroid with T3 could only mean good things for hair. My other issue is that I’m on a keto diet, which I know is probably not good for hair - but my body hates carbs. I get fatigued and foggy when I’m not in keto. I’m hoping that as long as I keep my thyroid in good shape keto won’t have too much of a negative impact on my hair.

Any thoughts of getting my low hormones in balance? Can’t take DHEA because that will just increase DHT. Of course DHT was the only f*****g high hormone on my test!!! (Elevated 5ar). I am taking nettle root but no idea how effective that is.

What’s your overall regimen? Where can I find details on the declassification supplement protocol you mentioned?
Eh, I never had balding with high TSH and no meds. T4 caused hairloss for me.

I read 200 grams of carbs was needed for good thyroid function, I can't remember that study but @whatevr might know.
You don't need to lower DHT. If you don;t have inflammation the body won't use the DHT to build fibrosis where it isn't needed.
Vit D and K raise test pretty well. Black cumin seed oil can raise estrogen.
It isn't something I've had to deal with myself though; you could join the ray peat forum as they are very knowledgable about DHEA/ metal poisioning
 

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Did you know minoxidil lowers fibrosis (by removing collagen) and increases blood flow by vasodilation.
Don’t mind me though, that’s not what you’re going for lol
Nothing u say has any value to me, since all u do is post broscience and theories, and quoting theoretical studies, but u seem to fail to realise that decalcification and alot of others things has already been tried on other forums, Ray Peat has a forum too and if u browse it u won't find anyone stopping their hair loss long time with ' natural supplements' or ' balancing hormones' . Ur just giving people false hope in this thread, and I think ur a fking a**h** for doing that. I look forward to seeing all the dislikes now.
 

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@Ollie we all need to shoot for 20 estrogen, give or take. Other wise calcium will go into our scalp/ blood vessels which could be why we are balding.

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roddy is a fraud and a charlatan. He never had hair loss. ever. I have his bullshit book, there is a f*****g video out there on the internet that matches up with the time period he was in a band and was supposedly suffering massive hair loss and in the f*****g video he has a FULL head of THICK hair.

I was going to type a massive post out detailing why these guys are full of sh*t (such as other peat piggybacker for financial gain and world class bullshit artist "haidut") but I can save myself a lot of time and effort by simply asking for pictures. Why do none of these geniuses whove apparently got it all figured out have proof of anyone, anyone at all, having ANY improvement in their hair? Roddy has a bunch of clients, and yet he cant share one success story with photographic evidence? some f*****g kook selling an expensive helmet full of diodes promises it regrows hair and yet I'm supposed to believe that he was never had access to any kind of digital photographic device? where does he live, the 1990s?

youve been a member of that retarded forum for quite some time and yet you, like everyone else there, have nothing to show for it. I'm not just talking about hair loss here either, everyone on that forum still has the same health problems they always had. One long time member even quipped - in what must be a rare display of awareness - that he was waiting for the person proclaiming loudly about miracle like effects to quietly come back in a few months in the exact same place they were before, because thats what always seems to happen.

You seem so sure of this alternative approach and yet, SFA for your results. And no that doesn't mean saturated fatty acids. And i realize this comes across as an attack but i dont even dislike you, i just think this peat sh*t is silly. Its never produced any results but it has earned a comfortable living for a select few charlatans who would otherwise be flipping burgers i promise you.
 

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Nothing u say has any value to me, since all u do is post broscience and theories, and quoting theoretical studies, but u seem to fail to realise that decalcification and alot of others things has already been tried on other forums, Ray Peat has a forum too and if u browse it u won't find anyone stopping their hair loss long time with ' natural supplements' or ' balancing hormones' . Ur just giving people false hope in this thread, and I think ur a fking a**h** for doing that. I look forward to seeing all the dislikes now.
@CoolTweetPete , @Elephanto , a few other guys on that forum said they have stopped their hairloss. They use Vit K, Methylene blue, taurine, and scalp massage. Only a few people really try something for months
 

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@CoolTweetPete , @Elephanto , a few other guys on that forum said they have stopped their hairloss. They use Vit K, Methylene blue, taurine, and scalp massage. Only a few people really try something for months

yeah, thats the key word. "SAID"

that entire forum is a monument to delusion and placebo.
 

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roddy is a fraud and a charlatan. He never had hair loss. ever. I have his bullshit book, there is a f*****g video out there on the internet that matches up with the time period he was in a band and was supposedly suffering massive hair loss and in the f*****g video he has a FULL head of THICK hair.

I was going to type a massive post out detailing why these guys are full of sh*t (such as other peat piggybacker for financial gain and world class bullshit artist "haidut") but I can save myself a lot of time and effort by simply asking for pictures. Why do none of these geniuses whove apparently got it all figured out have proof of anyone, anyone at all, having ANY improvement in their hair? Roddy has a bunch of clients, and yet he cant share one success story with photographic evidence? some f*****g kook selling an expensive helmet full of diodes promises it regrows hair and yet I'm supposed to believe that he was never had access to any kind of digital photographic device? where does he live, the 1990s?

youve been a member of that retarded forum for quite some time and yet you, like everyone else there, have nothing to show for it. I'm not just talking about hair loss here either, everyone on that forum still has the same health problems they always had. One long time member even quipped - in what must be a rare display of awareness - that he was waiting for the person proclaiming loudly about miracle like effects to quietly come back in a few months in the exact same place they were before, because thats what always seems to happen.

You seem so sure of this alternative approach and yet, SFA for your results. And no that doesn't mean saturated fatty acids. And i realize this comes across as an attack but i dont even dislike you, i just think this peat sh*t is silly. Its never produced any results but it has earned a comfortable living for a select few charlatans who would otherwise be flipping burgers i promise you.
I'm not a member I'm actually banned from that forum. So I don't really gain anything from suggesting it. You could even see my user hasn't been on since October 31st.

I think Danny, as he admits, used Finasteride as soon as he started balding. I can't really say he knows how to reverse hairloss, I just use him as a resource when he researches some useful things. I'm not even sure I learned much from his book, definitely wont teach you how to reverse hairloss.

I agree I disbeleive haidut, I believed in the study about taurine being useful to reverse hairloss but he's like Nw5 smh. It actually annoyed me that he pretends to know hairloss but doesn't reverse his own. And he definitely tries to control the forum in a way that's profitable for himself ( like pretending mk7 is useless when really it's better for the vascular system than the mk4 he sells)


None of the ones I believe on there have posted photos. WHich is fine to me, doesn't really change the science behind it, plus they could photoshop or use minoxidil. At this point photos are pretty much useless for convincing people.
I tried to get @CoolTweetPete to post, since he used MEthylene Blue and scalp massage, and he said he would do it at the end of the year but I got banned haha

I agree with how you feel about that forum in a lot of ways. I'm just saying for myself the calcification of blood vessels causing hairloss makes sense.
 

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@Arrade logic
Finasteride, an FDA approved drug for hairloss = poison
Also takes letrozole without any real indication. A drug that can actually cause hairloss.
 

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I've been pretty upfront about my hairloss, I stopped it before with the decalcifcation protocol. I fell off using the vitamins for whatever reason ( I was like Nw2) and then started taking thyroid meds. THe T4 meds acutally made my hairloss faster than ever and the inflammation was quite painful. After waiting 6 weeks for it to leave my system I still had hairloss until I realized it made my estrogen really high, which some women explained to me happened to them when they used it.

Now I'm waiting for my estrogen to get in range and I'll try the decalcification protocol from this guy (again):
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...think-again-very-interesting-topic-28623.html
 

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@Arrade logic
Finasteride, an FDA approved drug for hairloss = poison
Also takes letrozole without any real indication. A drug that can actually cause hairloss.
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@Falsenine why are you pretending that drug is healthy?
Also how can you deny it was originally made to treat prostate cancer, and then they found out it was actually excess estrogen from andropause that caused men to develop prostate cancer?

It's the same with minoxidil. Originally an oral medication for hypertension, perfectly acceptable under the FDA but now much healthier options exist.




 

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Eh, I never had balding with high TSH and no meds. T4 caused hairloss for me.

I read 200 grams of carbs was needed for good thyroid function, I can't remember that study but @whatevr might know.
You don't need to lower DHT. If you don;t have inflammation the body won't use the DHT to build fibrosis where it isn't needed.
Vit D and K raise test pretty well. Black cumin seed oil can raise estrogen.
It isn't something I've had to deal with myself though; you could join the ray peat forum as they are very knowledgable about DHEA/ metal poisioning

Perhaps this? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3702673

FWIW I've gotten my TSH down to 1.97 mostly using curcumin, checked in early December, and still going until I get it down to <0.5. Unfortunately that in my case meant only speeding up of hair loss due to the improved hormones. Ha ha ha f*****g baldness amirite?
 

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J&J shares plunge 10% after report that the company knew for decades about asbestos in baby powder

@Falsenine why are you pretending that drug is healthy?
Also how can you deny it was originally made to treat prostate cancer, and then they found out it was actually excess estrogen from andropause that caused men to develop prostate cancer?

It's the same with minoxidil. Originally an oral medication for hypertension, perfectly acceptable under the FDA but now much healthier options exist.

I remember benzodiazepines used to be handed out like sweets then they realised what they had done.
 

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I've been pretty upfront about my hairloss, I stopped it before with the decalcifcation protocol. I fell off using the vitamins for whatever reason ( I was like Nw2) and then started taking thyroid meds. THe T4 meds acutally made my hairloss faster than ever and the inflammation was quite painful. After waiting 6 weeks for it to leave my system I still had hairloss until I realized it made my estrogen really high, which some women explained to me happened to them when they used it.

Now I'm waiting for my estrogen to get in range and I'll try the decalcification protocol from this guy (again):
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...think-again-very-interesting-topic-28623.html

You are going to follow a protocol invented by someome who says you should take 35000 IU/day Vitamin D. That's not smart.
 

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I've been pretty upfront about my hairloss, I stopped it before with the decalcifcation protocol. I fell off using the vitamins for whatever reason ( I was like Nw2) and then started taking thyroid meds. THe T4 meds acutally made my hairloss faster than ever and the inflammation was quite painful. After waiting 6 weeks for it to leave my system I still had hairloss until I realized it made my estrogen really high, which some women explained to me happened to them when they used it.

Now I'm waiting for my estrogen to get in range and I'll try the decalcification protocol from this guy (again):
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...think-again-very-interesting-topic-28623.html

25,000 iu of vitamin D sounds like a lot. What’s the logic behind taking so much? I’m taking 5,000 iu a the moment. I’m taking all the other stuff except the oil.
Did you have regrowth with this?

I could not find anything on the Ray Peat forums suggesting issues with taking T3
 
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You are going to follow a protocol invented by someome who says you should take 35000 IU/day Vitamin D. That's not smart.
I took 30,000 Vit d along with 600 mcg Mk7 + 1 mg mk4 for 3 months and my Vit D was mid range
 

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25,000 iu of vitamin D sounds like a lot. What’s the logic behind taking so much? I’m taking 5,000 iu a the moment. I’m taking all the other stuff except the oil.
Did you have regrowth with this?

I could not find anything on the Ray Peat forums suggesting issues with taking T3
I haven't experienced regrowth because after it stopped my hairloss, right when my hairloss stopped I took T4 meds because i thought it would help. Nope, jacked up my hormones.
Messed up estrogen = messed up calcium metabolism.
 

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Don't just look at ray peat forum, find out if T3 is suppressive. Ray peat forum has biases like taking syntethic thyroid hormones or progesterone or other questionable things.

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/45/5/1013/2677321?redirectedFrom=fulltext

A study of changes in serum TSH, T4 and T3 before and after the T3 suppression test was done in patients treated for hyperthyroidism due to Graves' disease. In 18 uptake suppressed patients of 49 clinically euthyroid subjects serum TSH was significantly reduced after the T3 suppression test. "After the suppression test, serum T4 did not show a significant decrement in non-suppressed patients. However, in suppressed patients, serum T4 was significantly reduced from 8.6 ± 0.3 to 6.7 ± 0.5 μg/dl"

That right there sketches me out. T4 and TSH suppressed with T3 use?
I'm just saying calcitionin controls calcium as well, you don't want that hormone suppressed.
 

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My doctor said this was still in range. IF it's above 100 or something it may get wonky, I don't remember.
This was after 3 months of 30,000 iu VIt D daily

You can use less, I think Dr. Coimbra uses 10,000 iu. If I had to guess the high doses was to reverse soft tissue calcification at a faster pace.
 

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Where's that rabble rabble boy when you need him?

I guess at this point even he gave up, his last rabble sounded rather depressing (rabble rabble?)
 
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