Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

[Clockwise]

I was at the specialists of hairloss today and i told him about the new lotion from Italy that is coming this summer, he immediatelly told it will be a scam, that its just the usual marketing, and when i told him about the ingredients he looked me weirdly, what should i think now, it kind of bummed me out...

Hairloss specialist...? Nobody knows except Fidia (and hopefully G. Brotzu) if it's a scam or not.

Me myself don't believe that the lotion is a scam (what's pointing at that direction today?), but all of us should be sceptical towards it efficiency: and that we should be with all new products. In all categories, that's just common sense.

Neverless, I still hope (and even believe) that G. Brotzus words contains some truth, because he have been telling the truth so far, even when some of you said he did not.

 

[Agent]

I was at the specialists of hairloss today and i told him about the new lotion from Italy that is coming this summer, he immediatelly told it will be a scam, that its just the usual marketing, and when i told him about the ingredients he looked me weirdly, what should i think now, it kind of bummed me out...

I once called a doctor to ask him about Finasteride and minoxidil as treatments for hairloss. He insisted that finasteride and minoxidil is the exact same thing, and that there is absolutely nothing to do about hairloss...

 

[br1]

Hairloss specialist...? Nobody knows except Fidia (and hopefully G. Brotzu) if it's a scam or not.

Me myself don't believe that the lotion is a scam (what's pointing at that direction today?), but all of us should be sceptical towards it efficiency: and that we should be with all new products. In all categories, that's just common sense.

Neverless, I still hope (and even believe) that G. Brotzus words contains some truth, because he have been telling the truth so far, even when some of you said he did not.

Well, if it gets released and efficacy is sh*t. Then that's the definition of a SCAM!

 

[Clockwise]

”The case we have cured, tell us that is possible restore only the hair loose in the last 5 year. To made that need more then 18 month's cure. Is better then nothing. We are looking for a better solution.” G. Brotzu.

For me, that’s also MUCH better than nothing. And the fact that they are looking for better solutions can mean that a updated product clould be realesed in the future after the first lotion (speculations).

 

[Clockwise]

Well, if it gets released and efficacy is sh*t. Then that's the definition of a SCAM!

No sh*t.

 

[Fvixt]

It will be the same scam like the foreskin lotion from Turkey.

How could it be the "same scam" as the Turkish on when this is from Italy? If it's a scam, it's a different one, you mo-ron.

 

[Dontwannabeabetabob]

How could it be the "same scam" as the Turkish on when this is from Italy? If it's a scam, it's a different one, you mo-ron.

You're a dumbass.

 

[Jonnyyy]

You're a dumbass.

You're one the biggest negative piece of sh*t on this forum, all you want is comfort though so I'm not gonna hate on you too much. I see you liking all the troll and negative posts.

 

[SamFT]

You're a dumbass.

Congrats beta bob on the 1 year of being on this forum with almost 1300 posts as well! That’s like 4 posts a day! How can you stay on a forum everyday and be so pessimistic? Like do you enjoy being negative on this forum all the time? It’s pretty sad.
*Wont respond will just dislike my post*

 

[alebaba]

Congrats beta bob on the 1 year of being on this forum with almost 1300 posts as well! That’s like 4 posts a day! How can you stay on a forum everyday and be so pessimistic? Like do you enjoy being negative on this forum all the time? It’s pretty sad.
*Wont respond will just dislike my post*

Hair loss will do that to you.

 

[Dangman]

Someone being a ''specialist'' doesn't mean t

Patent claims:
1. DGLA group had no effect on hair.
2. PGE1 group had no quantifiable effect on hair.
3. PGE1 + Equol group grew some fuzz (no aesthetic difference)
4. DGLA + Equol group had amazing results and complete filling of hair reduction areas (absolutely ridiculous claim).

However, those results don't seem to match the claims in the interview

Interview claims:
1. "PGE1 and DGLA are effective also by themselves in case of androgenetic alopecia, but if they are associated with equol they are more effective"
Apparently they're not if they had no effect on hair in his trials...

2. "The product proved its effectiveness also without equol, but by adding it you improve the effectiveness by 80%"
So if adding equol is 80% more effective, which is an oddly specific number, implying they took actual measurements, but what measurements? Those are conveniently left out of the conversation. But according to the patent, PGE1 + Equol did essentially nothing. And the patent said dgla alone does nothing, so adding equol makes nothing 80% more effective, so 0 + 80% of 0 = 0 more hairs.

Not sure how else to interpret the absolutely blatant contradictions here. The vast majority of signs point to this being another applemets. Hope is hanging by a thread the size of a hair from a follicle that started miniaturizing 50 years ago.

Except we don't know the exact dosages and it's effect when it is changed accordingly to get the wished results. There is no use in questioning something when we are getting out proper answers next month anyways. You are wasting your time

 

[Dangman]

No, because the patent clearly states the dosage comparison, with the lotion with amazing results using 30% less DGLA than PGE1. I'm literally only using information that are on the official documents and statements made by Brotzu.

Am I supposed to assume every claim made by Brotzu so far is now meaningless and what he says in April will be the new magical truth that saves everyone's hair?

Lmfao, way to exaggerate things. Like i told you already, you are doing nothing but wasting your time. Nobody tells you to believe anything claimed by Brotzu, it's good that you already have low expecations and doubts, but questioning something all the time even though we will learn more about the product soon, won't do anything for you. And most of the stuff we learnt still didn't go into detail, we still didn't see any pictures, hence why next month is important because we most likely will do both.

 

[Dangman]

Yeah sorry I shouldn't have exaggerated the fact that he said one thing and then said the exact opposite on multiple occasions. I'll just sweep it under the rug next time, thanks for the advice.

Lmfao. Should i go and buy you some napkins too?

 

[yess]

Yea well we will wait and see then

 

[Dontwannabeabetabob]

Congrats beta bob on the 1 year of being on this forum with almost 1300 posts as well! That’s like 4 posts a day! How can you stay on a forum everyday and be so pessimistic? Like do you enjoy being negative on this forum all the time? It’s pretty sad.
*Wont respond will just dislike my post*

It's a way to vent. You know this. I'm just a realist, I'm not living in a fanstasy land. Tough to see the positive side of things when all experiences further confirm my nihilistic views.

 

[SamFT]

It's a way to vent. You know this. I'm just a realist, I'm not living in a fanstasy land. Tough to see the positive side of things when all experiences further confirm my nihilistic views.

Yes I do. But the way you do it is not a great way at all. Bringing other people’s hopes down is not a great way to do it at all. For people like me that are in our late teens early twenties we don’t want to think “we are doomed nothing is coming out we’re going to be hideous by 25” we want hope and something that makes us feel better. And yeah trust me I need to stop lashing out at pessimistic views but that point of view is damaging. Now being over optimistic is as well but being slightly optimistic is better and will put you in a better mood and view on life then believing we are doomed.

After how many scams have fucked us over and destroyed our belief in hope I get why you’re pessimistic about this lotion. But you have to think that there is always just a possible chance these guys may not scammers after all. I mean a relatively big pharmaceutical company finished trials and presenting data, don’t you think that should give you some hope? They could’ve shelved it and not say a word but they are presenting their data at a conference man. It’s been decades since the last actual treatment came to the market so it’s easy to think nothing is going to come out, but same with Asthma it’s been forever since something efficient has come out and now fevipiprant will be coming out and patients in trials have said their lives have changed from this drug. If it is happening for a disease like that don’t you think we might have that again too?

Idk man just saying that I strongly believe that brotzu will work. Follica next year along with shiseido. Then tisujii. It can only get better there’s no way all these treatments fail but if they do then well f*** life.

 

[kawnshawn]

Patent claims:
1. DGLA group had no effect on hair.
2. PGE1 group had no quantifiable effect on hair.
3. PGE1 + Equol group grew some fuzz (no aesthetic difference)
4. DGLA + Equol group had amazing results and complete filling of hair reduction areas (absolutely ridiculous claim).

However, those results don't seem to match the claims in the interview

Interview claims:
1. "PGE1 and DGLA are effective also by themselves in case of androgenetic alopecia, but if they are associated with equol they are more effective"
Apparently they're not if they had no effect on hair in his trials...

2. "There are no substantial differences between PGE1 and DGLA.
Clearly there are if DGLA + Equol performed literally heaps and bounds better than PGE1 + Equol.

3. "The product proved its effectiveness also without equol, but by adding it you improve the effectiveness by 80%"
So if adding equol is 80% more effective, which is an oddly specific number that implies they took actual measurements. Measurements of what, though? Those measurements are conveniently left out of the conversation. But according to the patent, PGE1 + Equol did essentially nothing. And the patent said dgla alone does nothing, so adding equol makes nothing 80% more effective, so 0 + 80% of 0 = 0 more hairs.

Not sure how else to interpret the absolutely blatant contradictions here. The vast majority of signs point to this being another applemets. Hope is hanging by a thread the size of a hair from a follicle that started miniaturizing 50 years ago.

You can interpret it by waiting until mid April when they talk about the study they did.

 

[Aliens]

Patent claims:
1. DGLA group had no effect on hair.
2. PGE1 group had no quantifiable effect on hair.
3. PGE1 + Equol group grew some fuzz (no aesthetic difference)
4. DGLA + Equol group had amazing results and complete filling of hair reduction areas (absolutely ridiculous claim).

However, those results don't seem to match the claims in the interview

Interview claims:
1. "PGE1 and DGLA are effective also by themselves in case of androgenetic alopecia, but if they are associated with equol they are more effective"
Apparently they're not if they had no effect on hair in his trials...

2. "There are no substantial differences between PGE1 and DGLA.
Clearly there are if DGLA + Equol performed literally heaps and bounds better than PGE1 + Equol.

3. "The product proved its effectiveness also without equol, but by adding it you improve the effectiveness by 80%"
So if adding equol is 80% more effective, which is an oddly specific number that implies they took actual measurements. Measurements of what, though? Those measurements are conveniently left out of the conversation. But according to the patent, PGE1 + Equol did essentially nothing. And the patent said dgla alone does nothing, so adding equol makes nothing 80% more effective, so 0 + 80% of 0 = 0 more hairs.

Not sure how else to interpret the absolutely blatant contradictions here. The vast majority of signs point to this being another applemets. Hope is hanging by a thread the size of a hair from a follicle that started miniaturizing 50 years ago.

You have a good point but maybe DGLA enhance the effect or equol, or the other way around, or they both enhance each other.
We just have to wait now.
I really hope it will work.

 

[alebaba]

when are they going to release that sh*t?

 

[Dangman]

when are they going to release that sh*t?

According to Clockwise chat with Giuseppe, early summer