Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

[Blackber]

Was that group buy on the Italian forum? Id liked to get on the next one and possibly start a log.

Yes it was.

 

[Mattias]

Im following the Italian forums regarding Brotzu and one of the guys there got an email recently from him.

Sorry for the weird English but its google translate.




The email to Brotzu:

Hello doctor dare to bother me unperiodo of holidays, still hoping to have an answer when it will resume its activity .


I would not want to bore you with the request for information about his "discovery " took place in the field of hair, but as you can imagine many of us young people with hair problems we chase hopes whenever reveals some new method .
I would make , only 2 questions :

He has already had personal response to the fact that there is GROWTH of those individuals with androgenetic alopeia ?
Beyond that they are more or less young .

And ' certain that his preparation is not changed by farmaceuica house that he is currently preparing the composition ?

I apologize if I have been too intrusive writing on his personal email .
If I may ask , such responses will be kept in a secure way , without disclosing the web, I take full responsibility

Greetings
Manuel Bozzi

Answer from Brotzu

Dear Bozzi ,
In androgenetic alopecia it occurs before the arrest of the fall , in a short time , on average, in a month . Regrowth takes longer even years and depends on how long it took the fall and the age of the subject . Younger it is the sooner the regrowth . It is spoken in each case of years . The house Pharmaceuticals has developed a lotion that responds perfectly to the characteristics of the one we setup . I have carried out checks in the laboratory , also in a trial of people with alopecia universalis , which I have in progress , it has been proven to work perfectly. Currently I know that the pharmaceutical company , being very accurate , is carrying out a trial on cases of androgenetic alopecia , with a very complex protocol , because it wants to market a truly functioning lotion. I hope that will soon be on the market . Best regards

 

[yellowbluegrey]

Im following the Italian forums regarding Brotzu and one of the guys there got an email recently from him.

Sorry for the weird English but its google translate.




The email to Brotzu:

Hello doctor dare to bother me unperiodo of holidays, still hoping to have an answer when it will resume its activity .


I would not want to bore you with the request for information about his "discovery " took place in the field of hair, but as you can imagine many of us young people with hair problems we chase hopes whenever reveals some new method .
I would make , only 2 questions :

He has already had personal response to the fact that there is GROWTH of those individuals with androgenetic alopeia ?
Beyond that they are more or less young .

And ' certain that his preparation is not changed by farmaceuica house that he is currently preparing the composition ?

I apologize if I have been too intrusive writing on his personal email .
If I may ask , such responses will be kept in a secure way , without disclosing the web, I take full responsibility

Greetings
Manuel Bozzi

Answer from Brotzu

Dear Bozzi ,
In androgenetic alopecia it occurs before the arrest of the fall , in a short time , on average, in a month . Regrowth takes longer even years and depends on how long it took the fall and the age of the subject . Younger it is the sooner the regrowth . It is spoken in each case of years . The house Pharmaceuticals has developed a lotion that responds perfectly to the characteristics of the one we setup . I have carried out checks in the laboratory , also in a trial of people with alopecia universalis , which I have in progress , it has been proven to work perfectly. Currently I know that the pharmaceutical company , being very accurate , is carrying out a trial on cases of androgenetic alopecia , with a very complex protocol , because it wants to market a truly functioning lotion. I hope that will soon be on the market . Best regards

Sounds like they're really making sure they have something and can fulfill their claims. I hope "soon on the market" means SOON on the market

 

[papa pinrel]

so for see regrowth we have to wait years????

 

[yellowbluegrey]

so for see regrowth we have to wait years????

Going by that sketchy translation, I got that if you've lost hair for many years, it'll take years for them to come back. With more recent loss, it takes less time

 

[Mattias]

Going by that sketchy translation, I got that if you've lost hair for many years, it'll take years for them to come back. With more recent loss, it takes less time

another guy replayed to the email saying

"So the new news is that regrowth can take years and not months 2/3 as had been previously told . And unfortunately still nothing as regards a possible output of the product ."

So thats that..

 

[Blackber]

another guy replayed to the email saying

"So the new news is that regrowth can take years and not months 2/3 as had been previously told . And unfortunately still nothing as regards a possible output of the product ."

So thats that..

Not sure I agree with that.

From that rough translation I tend to believe with what @yellowbluegrey said.

Damn, I want to get my hands on this stuff already.

 

[yellowbluegrey]

another guy replayed to the email saying

"So the new news is that regrowth can take years and not months 2/3 as had been previously told . And unfortunately still nothing as regards a possible output of the product ."

So thats that..

What do you mean "another guy"? There was another response from the company? From the email above I got that it can take years on older scalps which have been balding for a long time, not the case in younger scalps which haven't

 

[JLC]

I'll be honest wouldn't bother me too much if it took years to regrow, as long as the lotion was released soon and actually gave back 5+ years of regrowth.
If it really did work, in a way there would be something quite pleasurable in slowly over time seeing all my hairloss reversing and going back to eventually arriving at my hair line from 5 years ago.

 

[Mattias]

What do you mean "another guy"? There was another response from the company? From the email above I got that it can take years on older scalps which have been balding for a long time, not the case in younger scalps which haven't

Sorry, from another guy on the Italian forum.

 

[Mattias]

Not sure I agree with that.

From that rough translation I tend to believe with what @yellowbluegrey said.

Damn, I want to get my hands on this stuff already.

i agree, thats how i understand it aswell..

 

[yellowbluegrey]

Sorry, from another guy on the Italian forum.

Oh okay, gotchya. Every new piece of info is looking more promising, but I'm excited for an official, coherent statement where there's no room for misinterpretation or argument. Again, it sounds like they're making absolute sure that they have something that works before saying anything, which I'd prefer over the alternative

 

[Dench57]

Give a f*** about regrowth.
"In androgenetic alopecia it occurs before the arrest of the fall , in a short time , on average, in a month" .

Stopping Androgenetic Alopecia dead in its tracks within a month would be f*****g HUGE. Biggest development in male pattern baldness treatments since finasteride/minoxidil (20+ years). Some of you guys need to check your expectations.

 

[hilbert]

Im following the Italian forums regarding Brotzu and one of the guys there got an email recently from him.

Sorry for the weird English but its google translate.




The email to Brotzu:

Hello doctor dare to bother me unperiodo of holidays, still hoping to have an answer when it will resume its activity .


I would not want to bore you with the request for information about his "discovery " took place in the field of hair, but as you can imagine many of us young people with hair problems we chase hopes whenever reveals some new method .
I would make , only 2 questions :

He has already had personal response to the fact that there is GROWTH of those individuals with androgenetic alopeia ?
Beyond that they are more or less young .

And ' certain that his preparation is not changed by farmaceuica house that he is currently preparing the composition ?

I apologize if I have been too intrusive writing on his personal email .
If I may ask , such responses will be kept in a secure way , without disclosing the web, I take full responsibility

Greetings
Manuel Bozzi

Answer from Brotzu

Dear Bozzi ,
In androgenetic alopecia it occurs before the arrest of the fall , in a short time , on average, in a month . Regrowth takes longer even years and depends on how long it took the fall and the age of the subject . Younger it is the sooner the regrowth . It is spoken in each case of years . The house Pharmaceuticals has developed a lotion that responds perfectly to the characteristics of the one we setup . I have carried out checks in the laboratory , also in a trial of people with alopecia universalis , which I have in progress , it has been proven to work perfectly. Currently I know that the pharmaceutical company , being very accurate , is carrying out a trial on cases of androgenetic alopecia , with a very complex protocol , because it wants to market a truly functioning lotion. I hope that will soon be on the market . Best regards

a slightly better-than-google (and summarized) translation; then my personal advice on how to take these statements.

"First effect in agas is the stop of shedding (typically 1 month). Regrowth takes longer, even years, depending on how long ago the Androgenetic Alopecia started, and on age. The younger, the more regrowth, still in a frame of years. The pharma (Fidia) has designed a lotion that is perfectly in line with that that we set up. I've checked it in my lab, and it has proven to be effective in my experiments with alo. universalis patients.
I'm aware that at the moment the pharma is carrying out trials on Androgenetic Alopecia, with a complex protocol, since they're committed to market a really effective compound. Hopefully available soon."

My advice is to take Brotzu's statements on effectiveness, regrowth, 5-years-timeframe, etc. with a critical mind.
He's a respected surgeon and, admittedly, not knowledged enough about Androgenetic Alopecia, aa, etc. He's not even pretending he is.
And, usually, there is little business orientation in Italian academia; don't expect the same attitude that you might find in a uni/hospital practitioner/dr/etc stepping into some compound with a potential market value. He and his team are not trying to sell that stuff to anybody, imho.
My impression is that his statements are vague, sometimes incorrect (e.g. equol and dht), sometimes unclear, just because he has to talk at the boundary between his core knowledge and something he doesn't master.

Expect the pictures, quantified data, and the salesman attitude, from Fidia. So imho it's great they're doing their homework.

I'm potentially interested in this but, for the moment, I'm sticking to the other italian "product" (CB)

 

[farkhairloss]

Time will tell, the problem for me with cosmetic companies is none of there treatments do barely squat for hairloss. Eg Loreal have treatments, Alocopene or whatever shampoo, Adenesone which had these great figures before release (has been out for years and hardly anyone has had results).

 

[Drogedagh]

a slightly better-than-google (and summarized) translation; then my personal advice on how to take these statements.

"First effect in agas is the stop of shedding (typically 1 month). Regrowth takes longer, even years, depending on how long ago the Androgenetic Alopecia started, and on age. The younger, the more regrowth, still in a frame of years. The pharma (Fidia) has designed a lotion that is perfectly in line with that that we set up. I've checked it in my lab, and it has proven to be effective in my experiments with alo. universalis patients.
I'm aware that at the moment the pharma is carrying out trials on Androgenetic Alopecia, with a complex protocol, since they're committed to market a really effective compound. Hopefully available soon."

My advice is to take Brotzu's statements on effectiveness, regrowth, 5-years-timeframe, etc. with a critical mind.
He's a respected surgeon and, admittedly, not knowledged enough about Androgenetic Alopecia, aa, etc. He's not even pretending he is.
And, usually, there is little business orientation in Italian academia; don't expect the same attitude that you might find in a uni/hospital practitioner/dr/etc stepping into some compound with a potential market value. He and his team are not trying to sell that stuff to anybody, imho.
My impression is that his statements are vague, sometimes incorrect (e.g. equol and dht), sometimes unclear, just because he has to talk at the boundary between his core knowledge and something he doesn't master.

Expect the pictures, quantified data, and the salesman attitude, from Fidia. So imho it's great they're doing their homework.

I'm potentially interested in this but, for the moment, I'm sticking to the other italian "product" (CB)

What did he say wrong about equol and dht?

 

[yellowbluegrey]

a slightly better-than-google (and summarized) translation; then my personal advice on how to take these statements.

"First effect in agas is the stop of shedding (typically 1 month). Regrowth takes longer, even years, depending on how long ago the Androgenetic Alopecia started, and on age. The younger, the more regrowth, still in a frame of years. The pharma (Fidia) has designed a lotion that is perfectly in line with that that we set up. I've checked it in my lab, and it has proven to be effective in my experiments with alo. universalis patients.
I'm aware that at the moment the pharma is carrying out trials on Androgenetic Alopecia, with a complex protocol, since they're committed to market a really effective compound. Hopefully available soon."

My advice is to take Brotzu's statements on effectiveness, regrowth, 5-years-timeframe, etc. with a critical mind.
He's a respected surgeon and, admittedly, not knowledged enough about Androgenetic Alopecia, aa, etc. He's not even pretending he is.
And, usually, there is little business orientation in Italian academia; don't expect the same attitude that you might find in a uni/hospital practitioner/dr/etc stepping into some compound with a potential market value. He and his team are not trying to sell that stuff to anybody, imho.
My impression is that his statements are vague, sometimes incorrect (e.g. equol and dht), sometimes unclear, just because he has to talk at the boundary between his core knowledge and something he doesn't master.

Expect the pictures, quantified data, and the salesman attitude, from Fidia. So imho it's great they're doing their homework.

I'm potentially interested in this but, for the moment, I'm sticking to the other italian "product" (CB)

Interesting, I bet we'll hear a different time frame for regrowth as more info comes out. Also, I've recently become aware of CB, what's the news in it being commercially released?

 

[Blackber]

Interesting, I bet we'll hear a different time frame for regrowth as more info comes out. Also, I've recently become aware of CB, what's the news in it being commercially released?

Not for awhile, I forget the year they're targeting but it's after 2020.

 

[Mr White]

Give a f*** about regrowth.
"In androgenetic alopecia it occurs before the arrest of the fall , in a short time , on average, in a month" .

Stopping Androgenetic Alopecia dead in its tracks within a month would be f*****g HUGE. Biggest development in male pattern baldness treatments since finasteride/minoxidil (20+ years). Some of you guys need to check your expectations.

Absolutely! Maintenance would be more than enough for me.

And, like I said earlier, maybe Brotzu's lotion can work sinergistically with finasteride and other treatments.

 

[barfacan]

If this lotion can legitimately stop further hairloss without side effects, that itself will be a godsend. If you have the cash you can visit transplantville.