it's hard.. but pick yourself up - heres a lil cheery post..

[superfrankie]

Are you only allowed to be miserable when hitting Norwood 5-6 and being fully bald? That`s the most ridiculous thing I`ve ever heard.

 

[superfrankie]

You just have to be confident and say your intentions in the face, then every girl is yours, despite how she looks. Totally real.

LOL thanks for the laugh :laugh:

hilarious!

 

[kejan]

Is she Irish? Irish Women (well, a good chunk of the ones that I've met) are fantastic fun, enjoy a laugh and really outgoing and friendly. Not saying you'll get laid but everytime I've been to Ireland, I've had no bother attracting the ladies and I'm your Johnny Average Looks Norwood 3.

BrightonBaldy makes a good point about the utterly stunning girls are the ones who probably can look past hairloss and they won't give a toss what their pals think, but the masses of mundane average lookers will probably the ones who want their girlfriends to be impressed by their new boyfriend.

One of my ex work mates was a NW5 and his GF was stunning, and proper stunning. There's a lot of average dolled up girls on the street but this woooooooman was a cracker. She's done sports catalogue modelling They met a year ago and are still together, he was a NW5 back then too. She gets hit on almost every night I've been out with them (3times) by more than one guy a night, and she still goes home with Baldy.
but then again, the guys hitting on her maybe traditionally good looking but they have no humour, substance or personality..
He's lighthearted, a nice guy, down to earth attitude and treats her right. He's nothing special looking, but he is in fairly good shape. He also doesn't give a sh*t about his hairloss, spoke to him at work a few times about it and how I wasn't dealing great with it e.g wearing hats, but he's one of these guys that sees everyday as a new adventure.

 

[s.a.f]

Are you only allowed to be miserable when hitting Norwood 5-6 and being fully bald? That`s the most ridiculous thing I`ve ever heard.

No but you cant tell a NW5/6/7 its no big deal when you have never experienced his situation.
Its like a guy who broke up with his girlfreind of 8months telling a guy who's 10 yr marriage is over that its no big deal.
Or a 5'8" guy telling a 5'3" guy not to worry about his height.

 

[FSHGLD]

it doesnt matter to anyone but us at that stage.

Isn't that what HP and UCman are basically saying? That visible, moderate hair loss is psychologically tougher to deal with than mild hair loss, and that full hair loss is tougher to deal with than moderate hair loss. Hair loss is a degenerative condition, and while everyone on this forum is affected, we aren't all affected to the same degree.
You don't hear people with walking sticks lecturing people in wheelchairs about how they know another guy with a walking stick who once walked up 10 flights of stairs despite not having two fully-functional legs. They may both curse the fact that they can't run for the bus, but they're not in the same situation, and walking stick man should understand that...
I don't think it's fair for you guys to call them out on it (not you specifically JonJon, I can't be bothered checking who it was) (even if they can be a bit miserablist at times), and if mild hair loss has affected you enough psychologically to join a hair loss forum, you should be capable of understanding that someone with more severe hair loss considers their predicament to be greater. Having thinning hair which still looks reasonable when cut short or buzzed is absolutely not the same thing as having only a horseshoe and a shiny pale scalp in your 20s (and having to shave most days to look reasonable). Sure, some people with the former are more greatly affected than some with the latter, but all other things equal, the latter is worse.
Don't get me wrong, I fully believe that it's possible for an NW6 or 7 to score an attractive girl (I could post a good example now but I don't really want to post FB pictures), but it would be harder than for an NW3, just as it's harder for an NW3 than an NW1. To me, the stand out thing about the OP's example is that he's pretty ugly and short and has a fit girlfriend. I can't understand the 'oh my god his hairline has receded 10 or 15 millimetres and he STILL scores a girl like that' reactions here.
I'm somewhere around an NW3v or NW4 and thought for the first few years of hair loss it was something I'd just get used to. About 7 months ago, I realized it's something I'd probably never fully come to terms with, and if I did nothing, I'd probably be a NW6 by the age of 26. The idea of having nothing but a horseshoe scared me, so I read about treatments (I had never really even looked into finasteride/minoxidil until this point, I genuinely thought it wasn't worth the money) I started a regimen and have been lucky enough to have at least maintained and probably got a bit of regrowth. I buzz my hair to a 2, and am grateful for the fact that I have the option of doing so, rather than just having a horseshoe around the back of my head.
If anything, it's for your own good that guys like UCman and HP are telling you that total hair loss isn't the same as mild hair loss. You should be grateful that you're on treatments that keep you on the right side of that divide.

 

[CCS]

Isn't that what HP and UCman are basically saying? That visible, moderate hair loss is psychologically tougher to deal with than mild hair loss, and that full hair loss is tougher to deal with than moderate hair loss. Hair loss is a degenerative condition, and while everyone on this forum is affected, we aren't all affected to the same degree.
You don't hear people with walking sticks lecturing people in wheelchairs about how they know another guy with a walking stick who once walked up 10 flights of stairs despite not having two fully-functional legs. They may both curse the fact that they can't run for the bus, but they're not in the same situation, and walking stick man should understand that...

The difference is that if a slick bald NW5 wears a hairpiece, it will look much more real and stick to his skin longer and better than if I wear one, since I'll have grafts and other little stubble pushing on the base and showing beneath it. I'll have to keep taking it off and shaving daily and hoping the skin does not get irritated by all that.

Sure UCman as it worse than I if we both just go out as is. But I still am far from NW1, and he at least as better options at improvement than I do.

 

[CCS]

When I turned to Norwood 6 I felt better. When I was a diffuse nw3-4-5 it was much worse. When I shaved it, It became much more comfortable to me. When you have some ugly patches and shave them, they look worse than a completely bald head. But the horseshoe is ugly but what you can do about it. I think tattoing can improve the look and get you some points, if you go for a shaved look.
My hairloss started diffuse, so it may be different when it simply crawls. When it's diffused you are f***ed up alltogether.

I agree. My psychology teacher said that too. It would be far easier to handle if it all just fell off at once. The hard part is watching it slowly disappear, leaving nasty looking patches behind, and tempting you to do comb overs or other cover ups that just don't look good enough.

Tattoo would be an improvement, but I think a full cap would be best.

 

[CCS]

Totally real.

He has a big head and a fat face that does not look at all like it belongs on his thin body. His hands are as small as hers. Looks photoshopped to me.

Notice he is smiling much bigger than her, and he is looking right at the camera.

 

[qball01]

you have anger management issues, not your bald head my friend, stop trying to force your ignorant perspective of things over other people, your bitterness is the cause , not your bald head, and UM is a perfect match for you in that case, you 2 feed off each-other.

(oh yeah... they are not bald :jackit: )

Force my perspective? Answer one question. In this thread, did I sit here and call out to you? Or was it the other way around?

Do not even know or care who you are. You, on the other hand, called me and UCMan out. Not just once either. Sorry but your own choices completely destroy your own argument. I'm sure you will ignore that since you know I am right.

And FYI? Unless you are bald, your perspective on being bald does not count. Just how it is. And you sir, are not bald.

Thanks.

FYI...I'm bald, much younger than you too...and I still think your mindset is completely messed up and over the top and that you're basically ridiculous about this whole thing.

Like I've said...if you can't even look people in the eye, you have far more intense problems than the reasons you THINK...I don't care what you say. Baldness is not at all the reason you can't look people in the eye, its just the excuse you make for your overall anxiety about the world.

your welcome

 

[superfrankie]

Are you only allowed to be miserable when hitting Norwood 5-6 and being fully bald? That`s the most ridiculous thing I`ve ever heard.

No but you cant tell a NW5/6/7 its no big deal when you have never experienced his situation.
Its like a guy who broke up with his girlfreind of 8months telling a guy who's 10 yr marriage is over that its no big deal.
Or a 5'8" guy telling a 5'3" guy not to worry about his height.

Of course not. You cant tell someone not to worry about things they haven`t experienced themself. Im 6´1 so I cant tell someone that is 5´5 not to worry about his weight. What I can do though is to relate to NW5-7 people since Im a NW5 myself.

I can also honestly say that my self-confidence and self-esteem havent been reduced since I went from a NW3 to a NW5. Ever since I lost my hairline which helped me have a frame to my face, I stopped caring. The horseshoe can be a bit annoying, especially since Im pale and have dark hair, but overall, Im the same guy as I was when I was a Nw3, how strange that may sound to some.

Everyone who are or have experienced hair loss have my utmost respect, no matter where on the noorwood scale youre at. Its worth mentioning that many people with slight hairloss might not be in that situation for long. Hairloss can go extremely fast for some, and the fact that you dont know where it will end is a mental battle to say the least.

 

[HatGuy]

Recently, I have looked at the Norwood Scale and I have figured out that I am a Norwood 4-5 (hopefully not higher) at age 20. I keep hoping that my hairloss regimine will save me... I can only hope. I wish those pictures were still up, but they would probably would have made me feel worse about myself than they have already. It seems there is a lot of drama going on in this forum. I really really want to stay away from any of that... Oh ya, this thread sort of did cheer me up about my hair, not too much though.

 

[Aedan]

all u needa know is she is an 11 outa 10, he'd be a mere 6 even if he had lotsa hair... theres hope dude.

they still going out, comin up to a year, in saying that...

my 10/10 girlfriend of 6 months dumped me.. in her words she doesnt find me attractive anymore, yes my hairloss progressed a bit. she is only 18 tho right....silly immature materialistic shallow girl.

ah well.

 

[LooseItAll]

my 10/10 girlfriend of 6 months dumped me.. silly immature materialistic shallow girl.

ah well.

And of course picking a 10/10 shallow girl just because she is 10/10 doesn't make you at least as shallow as she is. :whistle:

 

[Ori83]

m i the only one who doesnt think being shallow is bad thing? i think wanting shallow things doesnt make me less in any aspect then the next guy.
its just another layer in one's personality.

 

[Obsidian]

I always thought shallowness was a lack of personality and sometimes, intelligence. Plus being shallow gets old fast.

Are we all shallow to an extent? Definitely

Shallowness only works if you are looking for a casual relationship, anything beyond that and you will fall flat on your face.

 

[Ori83]

Are we all shallow to an extent? Definitely

with this i agree.

Shallowness only works if you are looking for a casual relationship,

not true. the first barrier is external, then comes personality and such, but initial attraction which will trigger the relationship is merely superficial, and if so... why not raising the bar a few? :dunno:

 

[Aedan]

I didnt pick her for shallow reasons... met her at a gig and we got on the best i've ever gotten on with anyone in my life. it was scary, ended up goin and stayin at friends house the same night.

was quite shocked when i realised she liked me a hell of a lot.

her being a 10/10 was a massive bonus, or perhaps just my perception, i was very chuffed with myself anyway and proud at the time lol.

perhaps it was my lack of confidence in my own appearance that drove her away at the end of the road.... or perhaps its nothing to do with me... some young girls just feel that when a guy is nice to them they gotta run off and "live their life" before "settling down".

Who said we had to settle down lol.